I'm rather ticked off about the Water Strider getting nerfed. Sure I can get the water walking ability back, by using up the only mount upgrade slot for ALL of my mounts. (I think they also said mount slots become available at level 100, which screws most of my characters as well.)
Of course, no matter which of the (only 3 verified last I heard) mount gems you slot, it affects every mount, so you have no freaking variety at all. Better pick your favorite, because you are stuck with it!
Sure, it sounds like there are some good things in the 8.2, but there are others that I'm not thrilled about (I hate the mount equipment limits and nerfing as I already mentioned), and several I'm dubious towards. I hope for the best, but honestly you have to expect the worst.
If they think there is too much use of the Water Strider, then why do they leave the Death Knight path of frost and whatever the shaman uses intact? It must not be a mechanical, play, or story issue, they're just being pissy.
Besides, if that many people are really using it, then there is a major need/desire for it. Since this is a travel issue, it seems there's some bad design on blizzards part that water walking mounts deal with to some extent.
Personally I keep 3 mounts on side buttons. My favorite flyer at the moment. The Mammoth that has the vendor on it who's name I can'r recall at this moment, and the Water Strider. I think it's cute, but it's movement noise gets really annoying, and those splayed legs can make me misjudge edges at times. But of some zones or areas it's the only realistic choice for me.
Enough of my opinion, after all, it's not like blizzard listens to us anymore, and with activision exerting influence, that will only get worse.
Almost afraid to ask what the requirements for Pathfinder part 2 will be, but it makes no difference to me at this point. I do like a good laugh though.
A main reason for me to leave, was that it felt like being back in Legion with all those boring world quests, but without flying. Grinding for a month or more to be able to fly isn't gonna bring me back.
I guess I'll just wait for next expansion, and see what it will bring...
There is no way im going to resub for something as weak as this, just no way.
I'll be back when BFA is in the rearview mirror, its really sad but im not going to pay to play something that is not even fun...
@barasawa You know what else I didn't know until I watched Taliesin & Evitel's latest video? They have at least ONE mount that cannot benefit from any of the mount equipment: The Sky Golem. They felt that since it could already gather, then it shouldn't be able to have a second benefit from mount equipment.
So my question is this: If they have a list of exempt mounts that can't benefit from additional mount equipment, why didn't they simply add the Water Strider to it? That way it is only and forever a water walking mount? It makes no sense!
Most annoyingly....it's name -- WATER STRIDER -- literally means "strides / walks on water". Just WTF!
@Nyctelios I've thought the same thing for awhile. Why not have 3-5 devs that are charged with updating one or two areas a year -- hi res textures, updated graphics, etc. to let the world feel more alive, especially in areas older than Pandaria.
Heck, they are like a student magnet, so why not let some interns have at it every summer -- under the watchful eye of a few devs too, of course.
soooo still no new worgen/gnome look in this patch or is it longer srry kinda noob
They will get updated in patch 8.2.5. So, probably the next one.
There were never a certain date/patch. They promissed it back in the day "In a future patch".
People are expecting it for a good time.
Which begs me to question: Why there is not a team of people just spreaheading updating graphics from low to mid-high res for the entire game?
I never got that. Back in the day I made the very same question when players bragged about how many millions WoW was making "Good, nice, but what do I gain as a player that my game is making money if I go to draenor and Warcraft 3 low ass poly Thrall is just sitting there while the new model is around the world? Why can't them just update these characters too since most of them are generic npc's that are re-used in another areas?"
The same goes here. How much time will they take just to update 2 race textures?! It's nonsense.
They said at Blizzcon 2018 that they are aiming for 8.2.5. It was the reason they brought up 8.2.5 in the presentation.
soooo still no new worgen/gnome look in this patch or is it longer srry kinda noob
They will get updated in patch 8.2.5. So, probably the next one.
There were never a certain date/patch. They promissed it back in the day "In a future patch".
People are expecting it for a good time.
Which begs me to question: Why there is not a team of people just spreaheading updating graphics from low to mid-high res for the entire game?
I never got that. Back in the day I made the very same question when players bragged about how many millions WoW was making "Good, nice, but what do I gain as a player that my game is making money if I go to draenor and Warcraft 3 low ass poly Thrall is just sitting there while the new model is around the world? Why can't them just update these characters too since most of them are generic npc's that are re-used in another areas?"
The same goes here. How much time will they take just to update 2 race textures?! It's nonsense.
They said at Blizzcon 2018 that they are aiming for 8.2.5. It was the reason they brought up 8.2.5 in the presentation.
soooo still no new worgen/gnome look in this patch or is it longer srry kinda noob
They will get updated in patch 8.2.5. So, probably the next one.
There were never a certain date/patch. They promissed it back in the day "In a future patch".
People are expecting it for a good time.
Which begs me to question: Why there is not a team of people just spreaheading updating graphics from low to mid-high res for the entire game?
I never got that. Back in the day I made the very same question when players bragged about how many millions WoW was making "Good, nice, but what do I gain as a player that my game is making money if I go to draenor and Warcraft 3 low ass poly Thrall is just sitting there while the new model is around the world? Why can't them just update these characters too since most of them are generic npc's that are re-used in another areas?"
The same goes here. How much time will they take just to update 2 race textures?! It's nonsense.
They said at Blizzcon 2018 that they are aiming for 8.2.5. It was the reason they brought up 8.2.5 in the presentation.
In case you didn't know, the Trolls and Kul Tiran humans were to be released with BFA launch.
You said it was never given a patch.. but it was. That's all I'm saying.
They said that even before with no certain patch in mind. After they miss with the new allied races not getting into the game people lost their faith in certain schedule - That's what I meant, sorry if it was not clear.
Edit to add: People were actually expecting it to be on 8.2 for sure. But they invited youtubers to play the PTR in closed doors and the very first thing some of them shared was the exclusion of the texture updates. So, yeah, people are quite aware of that.
But it was given a patch, right? You said it wasn't.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
it is definitely a buttload of new grind, with unending RNG
i feel like part of the bliz team designs around 'fun' and then the grind/progression devs come in and pretty much ruin it all
Sometimes i think it's not only about what fun it's about retention of players which = more subs
Sometimes? That is ALL bfa was about. Blizzard was told 10000000000000x what players wanted during testing, but they ignored it all. Blizzard has a fun detector and it snuffs out any fun being had at any time in place of timegates and faction grinds. #$%^ Blizzard.
I still have to make good on my BFA investment, could not even max out my char. The azerite armor progression system was a hell of a turn off for me, and i do not feel like re-subing any time soon. Waiting on classic tbh, so I can remember the good times
1. No flying makes the world feel restrictive and tasks feel tedious.
2. Flying makes the world feel open and expansive.
3. Nobody wants to grind to unlock flying.
Guess what Blizzard should do if they want more subs.
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Of course, no matter which of the (only 3 verified last I heard) mount gems you slot, it affects every mount, so you have no freaking variety at all. Better pick your favorite, because you are stuck with it!
Sure, it sounds like there are some good things in the 8.2, but there are others that I'm not thrilled about (I hate the mount equipment limits and nerfing as I already mentioned), and several I'm dubious towards. I hope for the best, but honestly you have to expect the worst.
If they think there is too much use of the Water Strider, then why do they leave the Death Knight path of frost and whatever the shaman uses intact? It must not be a mechanical, play, or story issue, they're just being pissy.
Besides, if that many people are really using it, then there is a major need/desire for it. Since this is a travel issue, it seems there's some bad design on blizzards part that water walking mounts deal with to some extent.
Personally I keep 3 mounts on side buttons. My favorite flyer at the moment. The Mammoth that has the vendor on it who's name I can'r recall at this moment, and the Water Strider. I think it's cute, but it's movement noise gets really annoying, and those splayed legs can make me misjudge edges at times. But of some zones or areas it's the only realistic choice for me.
Enough of my opinion, after all, it's not like blizzard listens to us anymore, and with activision exerting influence, that will only get worse.
Lost my mind, now trying to lose yours...
Ok, no reason to resub then.
A main reason for me to leave, was that it felt like being back in Legion with all those boring world quests, but without flying. Grinding for a month or more to be able to fly isn't gonna bring me back.
I guess I'll just wait for next expansion, and see what it will bring...
I'll be back when BFA is in the rearview mirror, its really sad but im not going to pay to play something that is not even fun...
So my question is this: If they have a list of exempt mounts that can't benefit from additional mount equipment, why didn't they simply add the Water Strider to it? That way it is only and forever a water walking mount? It makes no sense!
Most annoyingly....it's name -- WATER STRIDER -- literally means "strides / walks on water". Just WTF!
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Heck, they are like a student magnet, so why not let some interns have at it every summer -- under the watchful eye of a few devs too, of course.
Makes no sense.
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https://youtu.be/_4PXd042fkk?t=1546
Sometimes? That is ALL bfa was about. Blizzard was told 10000000000000x what players wanted during testing, but they ignored it all. Blizzard has a fun detector and it snuffs out any fun being had at any time in place of timegates and faction grinds. #$%^ Blizzard.
2. Flying makes the world feel open and expansive.
3. Nobody wants to grind to unlock flying.
Guess what Blizzard should do if they want more subs.