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How Do You Feel About Genderlocked Classes?

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And if you're against them, why?

In my experience, most people are against them because they feel that genderlocking reduces character customization without really adding anything to the game. And if that is the case, how would you feel about genderlocked classes if they made sense with the lore and always had male/female 'halves', for example a monk class locked to male and a nun class locked to female that have many common abilities but also several unique abilities to make them feel similar yet different? Would you still prefer to have a single cleric class that combines both their skillsets, or perhaps gender-neutral versions of the 'halves'?
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936
    I have no problem with them. I do however think that gender locking should be lore driven.
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  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337
    Personally I understand that it's usually a budget issue. 

    I prefer to have well animated male or female avatars if both are not a viable option. Same with clothing and customisation.
  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    I don't like gender locking. Why can't a female do the same things as a male, and vice-versa? 

    The only approval I give to this is when it is definitional. A witch is female. A warlock is male. An Amazon is female. A Priest is male. A Priestess is female. Things like that. 

    But a warrior or a rogue, for example? Should be guys and gals.

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  • JeffSpicoliJeffSpicoli Member EpicPosts: 2,849
    I personally hate it. I like customization, its a huge part of every game for me regardless of the genre. Anything that limits the way i want to create my character sucks.  
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  • iixviiiixiixviiiix Member RarePosts: 2,256
    I don't like classes , that's design for lazy developers
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  • SevalaSevala Member UncommonPosts: 220
    Gender locking is just as bad as racial locking. Less customization, then you just end up with the same class with a different name X period of time later for the opposite gender while devs make it sound like they are giving you something, but those games are also boring cookie cutter games anyways so they don't even show up on my radar.

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  • HarikenHariken Member EpicPosts: 2,680
    They just never made sense to me. I just don't get why this is a thing in Asia. 
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    Just depends on how it's handled.  Mostly they don't, unless the determinations seem utterly arbitrary.

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,427
    edited April 2019
    Sovrath said:
    I have no problem with them. I do however think that gender locking should be lore driven.
    Andre Nortons Witchworld is a good example, but lets be honest most lore in MMO's today has no book/film base and is just made up, I doubt the majority even employ writers today, though years back they did. There was an article on here from an industry insider maybe ten years ago talking about how "now even the tea-boy writes quests".
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936
    Hariken said:
    They just never made sense to me. I just don't get why this is a thing in Asia. 
    Because they don't have a problem with it. I also think that "male" and "female" has very strong connotations Men and woman have different expectations and there is more of a feeling of "men should be this but women should be this."

    Obviously things change and there are always strides made toward gender equality but in the end "different culture."

    I think some people don't truly grasp what "different culture" actually means.


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  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 2,193
    edited April 2019
    I don't care if an MMO has gender or race locked classes. I like both male and female characters since I'm not sexist or a bigot. But I do see a lot of guys of a certain red that hate playing as a female. 
    It's not bigotry or sexism.

    In fact I cannot recall a single time when a women (or girl) that I knew was a girl or knew personally ever playing a guy character aside from non optional games like Mario.
  • WarEnsembleWarEnsemble Member UncommonPosts: 252
    iixviiiix said:
    I don't like classes , that's design for lazy developers
    I disagree. I prefer a class system and dislike skill trees. I'm old school tho.
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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    I don't like it at all.  I hate playing a game where they racial and gender lock a class.

    You want to be a Mage? You have to play the Female Muppet. 

    If you want to be a Warrior, you have to play the  Angry ManMeat.

    It's a big turn off. I can't feel connected to a character unless it's created in a way specific to my imagination, or at least as close to my imagination as I can get.
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  • Tiamat64Tiamat64 Member RarePosts: 1,545
    edited April 2019
    It's a budget issue.  And a good way for me to tell how much a budget a game has, too (which ends up being a fairly decent albeit not 100% reliable determinant for other factors that will influence whether or not I should bother with a game)

    Of course, I primarily play female characters so a game that ends up gender locking my preferred class to male is one I likely won't play unless other aspects of the game really really more than make up for it.  As someone who also prefers summoner classes though, that's rarely a problem.  Most developers for a genderlock game genderlock the summoners to female.
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404
    Path of Exile is gender locked and it is not Asian or are we only talking about MMORPGs.
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  • moshramoshra Member RarePosts: 400
    Race locked classes based on lore are ok for me.  Gender locking a class, doesn't make sense to me unless the class is unique to a race that happens to be exclusively male or female.


  • moshramoshra Member RarePosts: 400
    ChildoftheShadows said:
    I don't care if an MMO has gender or race locked classes. I like both male and female characters since I'm not sexist or a bigot. But I do see a lot of guys of a certain red that hate playing as a female. 
    It's not bigotry or sexism.

    In fact I cannot recall a single time when a women (or girl) that I knew was a girl or knew personally ever playing a guy character aside from non optional games like Mario.
    It's best not to reply to posts like this.  
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Totally depends on why it's done. A male Amazon would be weird but it's seldom done for RP reasons. More typically, especially in Korean MMOs that do this routinely, it's for the jiggles.
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  • DauzqulDauzqul Member RarePosts: 1,982
    Not a fan of the lock. Let me play who and what I want.
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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    I prefer gender/race locked classes. It helps with the immersion and the lore. Making all classes available to all races and genders turns into kind of a blend. I am also not a fan of having too many options. 
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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,014
    It doesn't bother me....99% of the time we only see the back anyway....
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  • AethaerynAethaeryn Member RarePosts: 3,150
    If it is a lore based reason. . go nuts. . otherwise let me pick.  If a knightly order is only male or female in the lore then no problem.  If a mage can only be male or female then I would disagree with that. . (of course it could be lore based).

    Then. . blame the lore or have that discussion.  but "fighter" should not be locked etc.
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,053
    Theocritus said:
    It doesn't bother me....99% of the time we only see the back anyway....
    ESPECIALLY then it is important! Nothing beats a pretty bum  :smile:

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