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Ashes of Oahu Team Details What Players Can Expect for Launch - MMORPG.com News

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited May 2019 in News & Features Discussion

imageAshes of Oahu Team Details What Players Can Expect for Launch - MMORPG.com News

In the first in a series of blog posts on the Ashes of Oahu site, the development team reveals what players can expect when the game launches. The series begins with "What is Ashes of Oahu" and introduces readers to the basic elements of the game, some of its unique lore and what makes it different than other RPGs on the market. Subsequent articles will "deep dive" into specific topics and features.

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  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455
    Launching Spring 2019?
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    flizzer said:
    Launching Spring 2019?
    Yep! 

    I played an early build and really loved its unique setting and thought it was a really pretty game. :)
    Tokkeninfomatz


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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,429
    edited May 2019
    This is the one that has a really interesting setting. Normally it seems to me developers do not want to touch anything that has some sort of racial/cultural background which is still in existence today. They had to make some changes due to cultural issues but have ended up with something that stands out as refreshing in a gaming genre that seems to have some unwritten rule that you must only do full on fantasy MMOs.
  • AcorniaAcornia Member UncommonPosts: 281
    I have been following Nightmarchers/now Ashes of Oahu for over a year now and am really looking forward to it.

    From their Discord site it is looking like they will have the game ready to launch some time between now and middle of June. The are busy doing final QA play testing to make sure everything is running the way they want it to.

    Launch buy cost of the game has not been set yet but they have been talking in the $40 range.
    infomatz
  • SirAgravaineSirAgravaine Member RarePosts: 520
    This is what you call cultural appropriation.
  • SolancerSolancer Member UncommonPosts: 121
    . . . lost me at the char design, NO NO not even close, so its not a fantasy but another game taken on the name "ASHES" of crap. I'm guessing in the near future we will get all sort of game naming Ashes of Creation or Ashes of BS or Ashes of all Ashes, wow amazing naming sense.

    At least Ashes of Creation supposedly a real game, but now its crap BR vapor ware lmao, well it will be anyway in my view. Who know this game might be the NEXT Ashes of Age of great naming sensation. >_>;
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    edited May 2019
    This is what you call cultural appropriation.
    In fact, the developers worked closely with Native Hawaiians on making sure that it wasn't offensive to their beliefs and that it honored their traditions. Originally, the game was called Nightmarchers, but because in their work with the Hawaiian people, they were told that that was not appropriate. They changed the name immediately, as well as a number of other facets of the game that might have caused offense.

    So actually, no it is not. 


    ScotTacticalZombeh[Deleted User]SirAgravaineinfomatz


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  • AcorniaAcornia Member UncommonPosts: 281
    Ashes of Oahu devs just came out that the game will have a pre-order price of $39.99USD for those that are looking to get the game.
  • SirAgravaineSirAgravaine Member RarePosts: 520
    SBFord said:
    This is what you call cultural appropriation.
    In fact, the developers worked closely with Native Hawaiians on making sure that it wasn't offensive to their beliefs and that it honored their traditions. Originally, the game was called Nightmarchers, but because in their work with the Hawaiian people, they were told that that was not appropriate. They changed the name immediately, as well as a number of other facets of the game that might have caused offense.

    So actually, no it is not. 


    Oh, so they appropriated a culture first, before getting permission and were then informed that they messed up and covered their behinds by consulting a few Hawaiians. I guess it definitely passes muster now...*rolls eyes*

    I actually took a local workshop in Honolulu ran by an Indigenous nonprofit group that was for Native Hawaiians, and we discussed this game when covering Cultural Appropriation. I appreciate your response though, SBFord.
    BloodDiimond
  • SirAgravaineSirAgravaine Member RarePosts: 520
    edited May 2019
    Torval said:
    SBFord said:
    This is what you call cultural appropriation.
    In fact, the developers worked closely with Native Hawaiians on making sure that it wasn't offensive to their beliefs and that it honored their traditions. Originally, the game was called Nightmarchers, but because in their work with the Hawaiian people, they were told that that was not appropriate. They changed the name immediately, as well as a number of other facets of the game that might have caused offense.

    So actually, no it is not. 


    Oh, so they appropriated a culture first, before getting permission and were then informed that they messed up and covered their behinds by consulting a few Hawaiians. I guess it definitely passes muster now...*rolls eyes*

    I actually took a local workshop in Honolulu ran by an Indigenous nonprofit group that was for Native Hawaiians, and we discussed this game when covering Cultural Appropriation. I appreciate your response though, SBFord.
    Hilarious. Let's gatekeep culture now. The idea that we're never allowed to interpret or adopt other cultures in our music, theatre, or art is ludicrous. So "your group" decided it was cultural appropriation while another Hawaiian group decided it wasn't. Who wins the argument then, the most potentially offended? It would be nice if we could move past this point where everyone is worried about other people offending them.

    Whatever you do don't watch Aloha Scooby Doo with the wiki tikis and Big Kahuna of Honahuna. Spoiler Alert: Scooby Doo wins the competition after those meddling kids expose the bad guys.
    I don't think you fully understand the concept of cultural appropriation. It's not about gatekeeping culture, it's about the ethics of using culture to sell a product.
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    "working with the Hawaiians to MAKE SURE"
    Apparently NOT if they titled it BEFORE consulting them,maybe we can do a better job of bull shitting and ass kissing here?
    I would say it looks a LOT more like they are just walking right in doing what ever and waiting for complaints then take action.
    Before passing on BS to readers maybe do a little background check to make sure your posting accurate information.

    FACT>>>https://www.nightmarchersgame.com/

    So much for the claim of making change to not offend anyone?
    SirAgravaine

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    Guess they couldn't afford the $50 bucks to change the website name,likely already a copyright under Nightmarchers,another 50 bucks they don't have i guess.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    edited May 2019
    Torval said:
    SBFord said:
    This is what you call cultural appropriation.
    In fact, the developers worked closely with Native Hawaiians on making sure that it wasn't offensive to their beliefs and that it honored their traditions. Originally, the game was called Nightmarchers, but because in their work with the Hawaiian people, they were told that that was not appropriate. They changed the name immediately, as well as a number of other facets of the game that might have caused offense.

    So actually, no it is not. 


    Oh, so they appropriated a culture first, before getting permission and were then informed that they messed up and covered their behinds by consulting a few Hawaiians. I guess it definitely passes muster now...*rolls eyes*

    I actually took a local workshop in Honolulu ran by an Indigenous nonprofit group that was for Native Hawaiians, and we discussed this game when covering Cultural Appropriation. I appreciate your response though, SBFord.
    Hilarious. Let's gatekeep culture now. The idea that we're never allowed to interpret or adopt other cultures in our music, theatre, or art is ludicrous. So "your group" decided it was cultural appropriation while another Hawaiian group decided it wasn't. Who wins the argument then, the most potentially offended? It would be nice if we could move past this point where everyone is worried about other people offending them.

    Whatever you do don't watch Aloha Scooby Doo with the wiki tikis and Big Kahuna of Honahuna. Spoiler Alert: Scooby Doo wins the competition after those meddling kids expose the bad guys.
    That was NOT the point and NOBODY has said otherwise.

    The point was that a CLAIM was made about consulting the race when that poster was arguing otherwise and as i  posted is FALSE but hey makes great PR though,BS PR.
    SirAgravaine

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 3,030
    edited May 2019
    Torval said:
    SBFord said:
    This is what you call cultural appropriation.
    In fact, the developers worked closely with Native Hawaiians on making sure that it wasn't offensive to their beliefs and that it honored their traditions. Originally, the game was called Nightmarchers, but because in their work with the Hawaiian people, they were told that that was not appropriate. They changed the name immediately, as well as a number of other facets of the game that might have caused offense.

    So actually, no it is not. 


    Oh, so they appropriated a culture first, before getting permission and were then informed that they messed up and covered their behinds by consulting a few Hawaiians. I guess it definitely passes muster now...*rolls eyes*

    I actually took a local workshop in Honolulu ran by an Indigenous nonprofit group that was for Native Hawaiians, and we discussed this game when covering Cultural Appropriation. I appreciate your response though, SBFord.
    Hilarious. Let's gatekeep culture now. The idea that we're never allowed to interpret or adopt other cultures in our music, theatre, or art is ludicrous. So "your group" decided it was cultural appropriation while another Hawaiian group decided it wasn't. Who wins the argument then, the most potentially offended? It would be nice if we could move past this point where everyone is worried about other people offending them.

    Whatever you do don't watch Aloha Scooby Doo with the wiki tikis and Big Kahuna of Honahuna. Spoiler Alert: Scooby Doo wins the competition after those meddling kids expose the bad guys.
    I don't think you fully understand the concept of cultural appropriation. It's not about gatekeeping culture, it's about the ethics of using culture to sell a product.
    Wow, I'm so glad the world you live in isn't reality.  So you're saying that any white european person who makes a game can only ever make a game with only white european characters and about white european culture then?  But wait.....that's not very inclusive is it?  

    Seems like your logic has several meteor-sized loopholes.
    [Deleted User]ScotSBFord
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,429
    edited May 2019
    Torval said:
    SBFord said:
    This is what you call cultural appropriation.
    In fact, the developers worked closely with Native Hawaiians on making sure that it wasn't offensive to their beliefs and that it honored their traditions. Originally, the game was called Nightmarchers, but because in their work with the Hawaiian people, they were told that that was not appropriate. They changed the name immediately, as well as a number of other facets of the game that might have caused offense.

    So actually, no it is not. 


    Oh, so they appropriated a culture first, before getting permission and were then informed that they messed up and covered their behinds by consulting a few Hawaiians. I guess it definitely passes muster now...*rolls eyes*

    I actually took a local workshop in Honolulu ran by an Indigenous nonprofit group that was for Native Hawaiians, and we discussed this game when covering Cultural Appropriation. I appreciate your response though, SBFord.
    Hilarious. Let's gatekeep culture now. The idea that we're never allowed to interpret or adopt other cultures in our music, theatre, or art is ludicrous. So "your group" decided it was cultural appropriation while another Hawaiian group decided it wasn't. Who wins the argument then, the most potentially offended? It would be nice if we could move past this point where everyone is worried about other people offending them.

    Whatever you do don't watch Aloha Scooby Doo with the wiki tikis and Big Kahuna of Honahuna. Spoiler Alert: Scooby Doo wins the competition after those meddling kids expose the bad guys.
    I don't think you fully understand the concept of cultural appropriation. It's not about gatekeeping culture, it's about the ethics of using culture to sell a product.
    Wow, I'm so glad the world you live in isn't reality.  So you're saying that any white european person who makes a game can only ever make a game with only white european characters and about white european culture then?  But wait.....that's not very inclusive is it?  

    Seems like your logic has several meteor-sized loopholes.
    I am only going by what was said on here previously, the game was made in conjunction with members of the community but even so there were concerns presumably from others after they reached a certain stage (not sure when) so they made some more changes then. I imagine it is possible they may make some further tweaks.

    For me the only issue is who speaks for a culture? But if you go down the line of saying everyone who is part of it must have their say, you allow your sense of fair play to out weigh your common sense. To me the developers have done all they can, I can't see how you could ask for more. I imagine they see a game retelling some of their myths and legends an opportunity long overdue. After all do you want yet another retelling of the Arthurian legends ad infinitum and do you think that serves their culture well?
  • BloodDiimondBloodDiimond Member UncommonPosts: 26
    Sheesh, white people lmfao
  • SirAgravaineSirAgravaine Member RarePosts: 520
    edited May 2019
    Wow, I'm so glad the world you live in isn't reality.  So you're saying that any white european person who makes a game can only ever make a game with only white european characters and about white european culture then?  But wait.....that's not very inclusive is it?  

    Seems like your logic has several meteor-sized loopholes.


    I don't think you understand what ethics means.
    Post edited by SirAgravaine on
  • SandmanjwSandmanjw Member RarePosts: 531
    Now a game...people argue over the stupidest shit now-a-days...

    I DO NOT CARE...is the game any good? The end.


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