First Steps Into World of Warcraft Classic

SBFord · May 2019

First Steps Into World of Warcraft Classic

This past week we not only found out WoW Classic will be live worldwide August 27th, but the Beta test for it has also officially started. There’s no NDA or streaming restriction on this Beta test, as is generally the case with Blizzard, but I’m hopeful this will function as a real Beta where issues which arise can be dealt with before the game goes live instead of Beta being treated more like marketing for their upcoming thing.

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Sephrus · May 2019

Warrior leveling is slow but they become one of the most powerful classes end game in group set ups. The problem is the retail mindset. Vanilla was never meant to be a solo game, it was always designed with group play in mind. Leveling a warrior goes super fast with a priest pally or shammy partner. Especially once you hit 30 and get fury stance/whirlwind/cleave and do the whirlwind axe quest.

danwest58 · May 2019

Sorry but no. Classic does not need input from people who never played classic. People who never played WOW will bitch endlessly like they have been that classic is not for them so blizzard needs to make it for them. Fuck no they need to stay in Retail. Classic should be for players like myself and my guild who want to play classic and want nothing to do with retail. Yes I know some QOL changes were added, but retail players are the ones that bitched endlessly for things like LFD/R that are deal breaks for players like myself.

Eliandall · May 2019

First post (newish, but actually old old account) so be gentle

! Enjoying it, but playing sparingly. Mainly relearning hunters and pets which were so much more complicated back then.

Necrosis_bear · May 2019

I never will understand what the appeal of playing an outdated game with some outdated mechanics

rojoArcueid · May 2019

Necrosis_bear said:

I never will understand what the appeal of playing an outdated game with some outdated mechanics

you know, going back to classic will instantly make people unlearn everything about the WoW world. It will be a completely new experience from scratch. Nobody knows how this new game will play. THAT sense of mistery is really exciting.

spoiler:/s

But hey, if Blizz makes a lot of money off classic, this means more and possibly faster content updates for current WoW. I'm OK with that.

Gutlard · May 2019

I think peeps are smart enough to know what they do/don't like, and if they remember the game then, and remember the pro's/con's of it, and still want to play, what's it to me?

I think some peeps just want to go back to a time where 'choices mattered more,' and having to actually work for something made it mean something.

Back before Dev's didn't take away that feeling of accomplishment by handing things out to whiny players that didn't want to work for things.

Personally, I won't be able to enjoy WoW Classic until it's progressed to WoTLK, but maybe my day will come. ha Then I'll have to weigh QoL up against game play, and if I think game play will win then I'll try it out again. But I don't think there was any lack of QoL then that would stop me, tbh.

Gut Out!

Renfail · May 2019

danwest58 said:

Sorry but no. Classic does not need input from people who never played classic. People who never played WOW will bitch endlessly like they have been that classic is not for them so blizzard needs to make it for them. Fuck no they need to stay in Retail. Classic should be for players like myself and my guild who want to play classic and want nothing to do with retail. Yes I know some QOL changes were added, but retail players are the ones that bitched endlessly for things like LFD/R that are deal breaks for players like myself.

As someone who never played WoW Vanilla (too busy in EQ2), my opinion on WoW Classic beta = absolutely POINTLESS. The only ones whose feedback really matters are the people who were there to give input on how close they are recreating the classic experience. That's one of the allures of this Classic experience for myself and our gaming community; we have a whole section of players who, like myself, never played Classic. Asking our feedback on "how does Classic feel" during beta = pointless.

rojoArcueid · May 2019

Gutlard said:

I think some peeps just want to go back to a time where 'choices mattered more,' and having to actually work for something made it mean something.

Back before Dev's didn't take away that feeling of accomplishment by handing things out to whiny players that didn't want to work for things.

Classic is not for me, but if Blizz do this part to current modern WoW i would subscribe more often. As it is today I only care about the lore so i subscribe very little, just enough to consume story. Classic wont offer me more than current version so it's not an option for me.

"Choices mattered more" and "work for something" are not exclusive to older games. It is just a shame Blizz focuses too much on catering to the whole world instead of the people who actually want to play.

Manestream · May 2019

Hunters get to tame rare pets again with special abilities (if they dont have that then its not classic).

I am also hoping that one would be able to choose which server region to play on (much like diablo has and all those others) since all my online friends play on the NA servers and i am EU bound

Would be easy to choose which region on launching the blizzard app, then you play. You can switch but would NOT be able to move, switch etc stuff between regional servers which is the normal thing everywhere thesedays.

Vanchora · May 2019

Eliandall said:

First post (newish, but actually old old account) so be gentle ! Enjoying it, but playing sparingly. Mainly relearning hunters and pets which were so much more complicated back then.

What means here old old account, if your account is old, I am lying already in a coffin

freston · May 2019

I played vanilla wow since day one, and have not quit the game since. Are we really going to get all the cool features we had, like running out of souls for warlocks and not being able to get any if you were in a low level zone, or those wonderful ammunitions for hunters that always ran out in the middle of a raid? Please, I miss so much those wonderful talent trees you had to spend your whole gold to respec, or spirit, who was the idiot who thought the game could survive without the spirit stat? We are getting spirit back, aren't we? Omg, i can't wait to get back all those meaningful, exciting and necessary features back in the game. I may actually quit my job, divorce my wife and go back into my mother's basement to feel the joy of old school rpg once again.

Galadourn · May 2019

freston said:

I played vanilla wow since day one, and have not quit the game since. Are we really going to get all the cool features we had, like running out of souls for warlocks and not being able to get any if you were in a low level zone, or those wonderful ammunitions for hunters that always ran out in the middle of a raid? Please, I miss so much those wonderful talent trees you had to spend your whole gold to respec, or spirit, who was the idiot who thought the game could survive without the spirit stat? We are getting spirit back, aren't we? Omg, i can't wait to get back all those meaningful, exciting and necessary features back in the game. I may actually quit my job, divorce my wife and go back into my mother's basement to feel the joy of old school rpg once again.

so you are complaining the game is not playing itself for you?

Aenghas · May 2019

rojoArcueid said:

Necrosis_bear said:

I never will understand what the appeal of playing an outdated game with some outdated mechanics

you know, going back to classic will instantly make people unlearn everything about the WoW world. It will be a completely new experience from scratch. Nobody knows how this new game will play. THAT sense of mistery is really exciting.

spoiler:/s

But hey, if Blizz makes a lot of money off classic, this means more and possibly faster content updates for current WoW. I'm OK with that.

o_O Was the last bit irony too? I feel like WoW is terrible at updates because it wants to be. It is one of the most financially successful mmo's ever made, games that have made far less still deliver content faster.

Vanchora · May 2019

freston said:

I played vanilla wow since day one, and have not quit the game since. Are we really going to get all the cool features we had, like running out of souls for warlocks and not being able to get any if you were in a low level zone, or those wonderful ammunitions for hunters that always ran out in the middle of a raid? Please, I miss so much those wonderful talent trees you had to spend your whole gold to respec, or spirit, who was the idiot who thought the game could survive without the spirit stat? We are getting spirit back, aren't we? Omg, i can't wait to get back all those meaningful, exciting and necessary features back in the game. I may actually quit my job, divorce my wife and go back into my mother's basement to feel the joy of old school rpg once again.

running out of souls? running out of ammunition? respec and all your gold is gone? Useless Spirit stat?

Dude this brings me to to conclusions .... You didn't know how this game was working or you were surrounded by bloody n00bs. Maybe both.
In my guild a hunter ran out of ammo maximum once.
In my guild a warlock ran out of soul stones maximum once.
Repec should be only if guild demands and if yes my guild paid the expenses.
Useless spirit stat? did you ever play a caster class?

and so on and so on.

Like every game there have been good and bad things but what you list ... you are playing an mmorpg not only a mmo.

and about moms basement which one you mean for real? :-) And now Blizz give me my beta account! I never thought I would speak something good on your behalf anymore!

Arlee · May 2019

Eliandall said:

First post (newish, but actually old old account) so be gentle ! Enjoying it, but playing sparingly. Mainly relearning hunters and pets which were so much more complicated back then.

Don’t forget to feed your pet and stock up on tons of ammo!

ChildoftheShadows · May 2019

Renfail said:

danwest58 said:

Sorry but no. Classic does not need input from people who never played classic. People who never played WOW will bitch endlessly like they have been that classic is not for them so blizzard needs to make it for them. Fuck no they need to stay in Retail. Classic should be for players like myself and my guild who want to play classic and want nothing to do with retail. Yes I know some QOL changes were added, but retail players are the ones that bitched endlessly for things like LFD/R that are deal breaks for players like myself.

As someone who never played WoW Vanilla (too busy in EQ2), my opinion on WoW Classic beta = absolutely POINTLESS. The only ones whose feedback really matters are the people who were there to give input on how close they are recreating the classic experience. That's one of the allures of this Classic experience for myself and our gaming community; we have a whole section of players who, like myself, never played Classic. Asking our feedback on "how does Classic feel" during beta = pointless.

It's probably more about extending the hype.

laserit · May 2019

Necrosis_bear said:

I never will understand what the appeal of playing an outdated game with some outdated mechanics

Kind of like listening to the Beatles or watching an old movie.

Why cant a video game that’s old be fun and engaging?

Amathe · May 2019

From memory of starting long ago.

Try not to buy much stuff from 1-40. At 40 you will need gold for your riding skill and your mount. So save for a rainy day. Otherwise you will end up a level 40 on foot. Besides, you don't need blues and purples at that level anyway.

Lheiah · May 2019

Oh, I can't wait, as an economy player and old school gamer, I know I will be having a blast.

Pee-vree-pee baby, my way!

The cries of Classic will be cha ching, cha ching in my bank account. I have a love/hate relationship with 'min/max dps meter' Joey's, kaleidoscope power levelers, and 'gotta have' raiders and pvp'ers, lol.

Time is money.....friend!

Being able to make a immersive compelling sandbox in a theme park is crucial to the longevity of the game. "Next...step right in. Watch your head, please."

*takes on humpback Wednesday camel voice*

Guess what addons I will be installing first.....guess...what...addons...I will be installing first!

TEKK3N · May 2019

Gutlard said:

I think peeps are smart enough to know what they do/don't like, and if they remember the game then, and remember the pro's/con's of it, and still want to play, what's it to me?

I think some peeps just want to go back to a time where 'choices mattered more,' and having to actually work for something made it mean something.

Preach it bro.

I honestly don't understand why some people think that whoever likes Classic is some sort of retard with Alzheimer, and can't remember what the game was really like (especially when millions played Pservers for years).

Not cool.

lahnmir · May 2019

If, and that is a big if, I decide to play Classic again I will do two things.

1. Create a mage and get filthy rich just selling portals in Orgrimmar.
2. Create an OT Shammy just because they don’t exist anymore and make fun of pallies like there is no tomorrow.

Now I need to decide whether of not these two things warrant a sub.....

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

Aethaeryn · May 2019

Manestream said:

Hunters get to tame rare pets again with special abilities (if they dont have that then its not classic).

I am also hoping that one would be able to choose which server region to play on (much like diablo has and all those others) since all my online friends play on the NA servers and i am EU bound

Would be easy to choose which region on launching the blizzard app, then you play. You can switch but would NOT be able to move, switch etc stuff between regional servers which is the normal thing everywhere thesedays.

This was my favourite pastime. . It really meant something (especially on a PVP server). I remember trying to get that white lion from Barrens. I got killed 3 times and then the same two people let me tame it and cheered. I guess they liked my persistence? And the cat with stealth. . oh. . awesome. And I got that armoured bore from the dungeon. . then even the skin didn't matter because they made a later version in an expansion. I am likely remembering half of that wrong

danwest58 · May 2019

Renfail said:

danwest58 said:

Sorry but no. Classic does not need input from people who never played classic. People who never played WOW will bitch endlessly like they have been that classic is not for them so blizzard needs to make it for them. Fuck no they need to stay in Retail. Classic should be for players like myself and my guild who want to play classic and want nothing to do with retail. Yes I know some QOL changes were added, but retail players are the ones that bitched endlessly for things like LFD/R that are deal breaks for players like myself.

As someone who never played WoW Vanilla (too busy in EQ2), my opinion on WoW Classic beta = absolutely POINTLESS. The only ones whose feedback really matters are the people who were there to give input on how close they are recreating the classic experience. That's one of the allures of this Classic experience for myself and our gaming community; we have a whole section of players who, like myself, never played Classic. Asking our feedback on "how does Classic feel" during beta = pointless.

To me yes people who didnt play during vanilla their opinions to me is completely worthless. The reason why WOW is what it is today is because they listened to everyones feedback and NOT the target audience. If today Blizzard ended up listening to the current WOW player only and completely ignored the classic player who wants these servers and put in tools like LFD/LFR, dumbed down the content, rebalanced all the classes. Do you think a person who ONLY wants to play classic will play? Fuck no I wouldnt play. I dont play Retail for that exact reason because targeting this group for an MMO as the target audience is NOT good for the game.

I will use you as an example Renfail. You are making an MMORPG, SoL if I remember correctly. Lets say you are Blizzard Activision and your Primary function is to max your profits for stockholders and I came to your forums, brought many like minded people onto your forums and posted endless threats of how much we dont want forced grouping like you are doing. What do you think will happen? Activisions Bobby Dickhead Kotick would say Change it paying customers want it, its good for stockholders. Now you make that change in SoL and now your game is NO LONGER what you wanted it to be. The same goes for me and what I want Classic to be. Current WOW players, players who are not the true target audience of WOW Classic should have NO VOICE period. They just screw these games up when really they will stay maybe 2 weeks at best then quit. Where As I dont care that it will take me 6 months to level. I am GOOD with slow content. I want people who WANT and PLAYED classic to have a say, not someone who wants to make Classic Retail.

Eliandall · May 2019

Vanchora said:

Eliandall said:

First post (newish, but actually old old account) so be gentle ! Enjoying it, but playing sparingly. Mainly relearning hunters and pets which were so much more complicated back then.

What means here old old account, if your account is old, I am lying already in a coffin

Completely off topic, but original account was early 2000's (only 1 l). However, I deleted it in like '15. Recently rejoined since I do still enjoy the site. As for the coffin, right there with ya ! At 54, I definitely have more days behind me than ahead

!

gervaise1 · May 2019

Aenghas said:

rojoArcueid said:

Necrosis_bear said:

I never will understand what the appeal of playing an outdated game with some outdated mechanics

you know, going back to classic will instantly make people unlearn everything about the WoW world. It will be a completely new experience from scratch. Nobody knows how this new game will play. THAT sense of mistery is really exciting.

spoiler:/s

But hey, if Blizz makes a lot of money off classic, this means more and possibly faster content updates for current WoW. I'm OK with that.

o_O Was the last bit irony too? I feel like WoW is terrible at updates because it wants to be. It is one of the most financially successful mmo's ever made, games that have made far less still deliver content faster.

Agree. I wouldn't be surprised if it results in slower content! They reduced the team size not because they were not making money but to make more profit; independent from Vivendi, management drive to show they knew what they were doing (justify salaries) and reducing the team size from 350 or 250 down to 125 will have saved $20M or whatever. (We know it got down to 125 because they announced they were doubling it to 250 - still not that big).

For reference when vanilla launched they released a decent patch every 2 months and made Burning Crusade at the SAME time.

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