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Best MMORPG/RPG For PvP?


Okay, before someone chimes in with "DAoC" hear me out. 

The type of PvP I like can be summed up in one game: Diablo II. I'm an EX-Diablo II hardcore player who's looking for a MMORPG that has very similar gameplay mechanics as  Diablo II. None of this capture the flag/base bullshit, or instanced battleground rubbish, but REAL HARDCORE PVP.(this rules out WoW by default).

Are there any MMORPGs like this? Actually, are there ANY games like this? I played Diablo II for 5+ years and it's time to move on, but to what? I don't know.



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  • BoxtripperBoxtripper Member Posts: 26
    Well, actually Diablo is pretty crummy for PvP if you ask me. Try ShadowBane. It has completely open PvP once you are off newbie island, and you can build cities anywhere on the map, and RAZE those cities too :)

  • WolfThirteenWolfThirteen Member Posts: 11
    Isn't ShadowBane shutting down?

  • WolfThirteenWolfThirteen Member Posts: 11
    Shadowbane does sound interesting, but I thought it was shut down, or it will be shutting down?

  • ShiinekoShiineko Member Posts: 161
    Neocron fits your description, but... It's just too buggy and laggy.  No USA servers and all german developers who cannot code for crap.  Shame, too, since I think it is one of the best games ever made (if it wasn't for the endless bugs. yes, they never end!)

  • Username!Username! Member Posts: 165
    Lineage 2.

  • ShiinekoShiineko Member Posts: 161
    No. Lineage 2 is too... crappy! 

  • Alterbridge2Alterbridge2 Member Posts: 21


    Originally posted by Shiineko
    No. Lineage 2 is too... crappy! 

    L2 is not crappy.  It's just not easy.  Damn lazy hippy.
  • katriellkatriell Member UncommonPosts: 977

    Shadowbane is free now...might mean it'll shut down sometime, but as far as I know there has been no official announcement saying that it will.

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  • MeonMeon Member Posts: 993

    Guild Wars has good PvP,although i'm sure alot of you will disagree :P

  • paadepaade Member Posts: 471
    there isnt any good pvp (if you dont count EVE) game atm, all are pretty much crap. Few are in development though, such as Darkfall, Conflict Omega and Trials of Ascension. There is Shadowbane but its about to die and then you could try those 100% free Ultima Online shards (go Google if you dont know what they are).
  • CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 3,223
    Hey Wolfthirteen,

    I'm also a former diablo 2 junkie and I only played hardcore as it is the only thing worth playing. I was on USeast hardcore and I a dueler and somewhat Pker (legit though). I was Cryomatrixa or Khellendros or Michaelbolton.

    And Diablo 2 hardcore server PvP owns all MMO's in PvP with the exception of EVE and even EVE may not compare to PvP on a hardcore server where one death and you lose everything. I hear guild wars is ideal for people like us.

    I was thinking of trying Lineage 2 but probably won't be able to. One thing is, if you're a hardcore diablo 2 player like myself, it's pretty easy to get bored of MMO's. If you can't die, then what;s the point right? But WoW wasn't too bad, just the PvP is okay (sans battlegrounds).

    Anyway, just shouting out mainly to an ex-diablo 2 hardcore player like my former self.

    Diablo 2 4 life lmao . . .

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  • beautyisinbeautyisin Member Posts: 405
    well not diablo, but ryl 2 has the most fluid pvp i have experienced so that might be worth checking out, anarchy online has very good pvp, im sure there's others i just cant think at the moment

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  • misterfurioumisterfuriou Member Posts: 40
    The game with the best pvp hands down is UO it cant be matched because tis the only game without the rock paper scissors factor (rogues beat mages mages beat warriors etc) bcthere are no character classes and there are like 45 spells to choose from.

    Former UO player searching for something even remotely close to what UO was...

  • WolfThirteenWolfThirteen Member Posts: 11



    I've tried WoW and there's no doubt that it's a very well-made game, but it's just not my kind of thing. I don't like Battlegrounds and the PvP/PvE is just too boring for me. Mainly because there's no real consequences for dying; you don't lose anything but time when you die in WoW. Anyone can hit the level 60 cap for WoW. You can hit 60 and still not know how the hell to play your class - that's how undemanding it is.

    *sigh* I guess what I'm asking for is Diablo III.







  • beautyisinbeautyisin Member Posts: 405


    Originally posted by WolfThirteen
    I've tried WoW and there's no doubt that it's a very well-made game, but it's just not my kind of thing. I don't like Battlegrounds and the PvP/PvE is just too boring for me. Mainly because there's no real consequences for dying; you don't lose anything but time when you die in WoW. Anyone can hit the level 60 cap for WoW. You can hit 60 and still not know how the hell to play your class - that's how undemanding it is.

    *sigh* I guess what I'm asking for is Diablo III.




    i cant speak for everybody else, but i felt wow had the worst combat system i have ever experienced in an mmo, it is just so slow....in regards too a good pvp game, a lot of people have been saying shadowbane, bump for shadowbane i thought the pvp in shadowbane was pretty sweet.

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  • ZoayZoay Member Posts: 24


    Originally posted by WolfThirteen



    I've tried WoW and there's no doubt that it's a very well-made game, but it's just not my kind of thing. I don't like Battlegrounds and the PvP/PvE is just too boring for me. Mainly because there's no real consequences for dying; you don't lose anything but time when you die in WoW. Anyone can hit the level 60 cap for WoW. You can hit 60 and still not know how the hell to play your class - that's how undemanding it is.

    *sigh* I guess what I'm asking for is Diablo III.









    I never played UO, so I don't know about that, but Tibia is a great game if you like to PK ^^
    the graphics SUCK, but any class can beat the other, and a lvl 100 player can beat a lvl 150 player if he's got more skills, so it's not all based on reaching the max lvl cap ^^ (in fact there is no lvl cap afaik, when I last played it like 1 year ago, the highest person was around lvl 200 and that took her (yes, it was a girl :P) over 1 year to accomplish)

    also when you die you 10% of your total exp, skills and magic lvl. And there is also a 10% chance for everyone one of your equipment slots that the EQ in it will also drop (it can be looted from your corpse, by you or anyone else that might get there first :P)

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  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925

    In my order.I like big battles,seiges,intresting combat and some penalty for losing(not all out looting).

    So its subjective to taste when it comes to pvp.So this is my order for pvping in a mmorpg.

    1)DAoC.Hands down the best by a mile

    2)EQ2

    3)lineage 2

    3)GW

    4)UO .old version

    5)shadowbane

    6)WoW

    But since you want real hardcore then i suggest shadowbane for you.

  • AseenusAseenus Member UncommonPosts: 1,844

    -id say Runescape :P as bad as the graphics and all the pvp in the game is much better then any game ;)
    -guild wars has nice pvp but its a little limited

  • GrimReapezGrimReapez Member Posts: 463

    If you like mass PvP I would go with RF Online, since you're a hardcore player you probably wouldn't mind the grind at the start. It's kinda weird at the start, but once you get lvl 30+ and can actually do damage in the Chip Wars it's hella fun.

    Let's see, if you enjoy the 1v1 pker type game I would probably suggest a non-mmorpg. Ever heard of NeverWinter Nights? well yeah, there's a server up atm called Bastions of War, i'm 100% sure you'll like the 20 vs 20 servers they're running. It's not really group vs group PvP because everyone goes off by themselves etc, it'll be challenging for you aswell, unlike WoW was.

    Just my 2c!

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  • kosdethkosdeth Member UncommonPosts: 36

    Shadowbane is the Best PvP MMO ever. to date

    However on may 15 Wolfpack Studios, the people behind the game, are closing their doors. There hasn't been an official anouncement yet about the future of Shadowbane and it has been free to play for sometime now.

    If ya can try it out . may be the last time ya get to play a real no holds barred PvP game for a while.

  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    Saga of Ryzom has very little PvP, but it means everything in there when you actually do PvP.  Don't expect random ganking...but yes, some PKer will be present...they are just extremely unlikely to be encountered except in the harvesting area...

    CoV/CoH have a very funny if completely weird PvP, they are screwing some of the best PvE games to turn it into a PvP game, really weird...just like Stateman I guess.  But this is about bases defence and not much consequences, yet too much...weird really.

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