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EA Vice President of Legal Adroitly Renames Lootboxes as 'Surprise Mechanics' - MMORPG.com News

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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722






    So based on this .. Stealing money is a "Redistribution of Wealth"? It is Loot in a box ...


    Surprise Mechanics are better in horror movies.






    A doctor doing circumcision keep saying "Surprise! I miss"



    the doctor cuts the wrong part and goes back to the parents... surprise! it's a girl!
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  • k61977k61977 Member EpicPosts: 1,526

    Asm0deus said:

    I kind of like how he compares them to something illegal (kinder eggs) in the USA (at least last news I heard)...lmao



    Off topic. Kinder eggs are legal starting this year I believe it was. They made them change something about them can't remember, but you can buy them everywhere now.
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,060
    k61977 said:

    Asm0deus said:

    I kind of like how he compares them to something illegal (kinder eggs) in the USA (at least last news I heard)...lmao



    Off topic. Kinder eggs are legal starting this year I believe it was. They made them change something about them can't remember, but you can buy them everywhere now.
    Isn't it like a Kinder Joy or something now? I believe the change was that the toy included in the egg has to be removed and placed separately from the egg.

    (It wasn't a gambling related issue, but rather a choking hazard issue that made Kinder eggs illegal.)
    k61977
  • Scott23Scott23 Member UncommonPosts: 293
    Aeander said:
    k61977 said:

    Asm0deus said:

    I kind of like how he compares them to something illegal (kinder eggs) in the USA (at least last news I heard)...lmao



    Off topic. Kinder eggs are legal starting this year I believe it was. They made them change something about them can't remember, but you can buy them everywhere now.
    Isn't it like a Kinder Joy or something now? I believe the change was that the toy included in the egg has to be removed and placed separately from the egg.

    (It wasn't a gambling related issue, but rather a choking hazard issue that made Kinder eggs illegal.)
    That is correct: in the US you cannot have something that is non-food completely surrounded by food - no matter how big it is :)

    I totally deny smuggling them in for Christmas :)
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  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726
    Like how he claims they are not gambling when it is blatant gambling.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,060
    edited June 2019
    Scott23 said:
    Aeander said:
    k61977 said:

    Asm0deus said:

    I kind of like how he compares them to something illegal (kinder eggs) in the USA (at least last news I heard)...lmao



    Off topic. Kinder eggs are legal starting this year I believe it was. They made them change something about them can't remember, but you can buy them everywhere now.
    Isn't it like a Kinder Joy or something now? I believe the change was that the toy included in the egg has to be removed and placed separately from the egg.

    (It wasn't a gambling related issue, but rather a choking hazard issue that made Kinder eggs illegal.)
    That is correct: in the US you cannot have something that is non-food completely surrounded by food - no matter how big it is :)

    I totally deny smuggling them in for Christmas :)
    So would that not make strippers hiding in cakes at bachelor parties hilariously illegal by that definition?

    (Different kind of choking hazard.  :D
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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Now I wonder who had predicted the exact same thing on these boards. Hmmm....
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  • SeelinnikoiSeelinnikoi Member RarePosts: 1,360
    I really, really hate people that you can clearly see are not gamers, managing games!
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  • retiredmjretiredmj Member UncommonPosts: 160

    3dom said:

    To be fair EA has the most uninspiring boxes in the industry - either items are bland (like in recent Star Wars Battlefront) or there is way too much useless crap in them (Mass Effect Andromeda).


    I don't even understand - why would they defend these boxes? It's difficult to believe they are getting substantial income from the boxes.



    FIFA and Madden "Packs" work in the exact same way as lootboxes. FIFA is a cashcow worldwide and Madden likely isn't too far behind
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    edited June 2019
    ...and I hoped a bit this kind of awfulness and stupidity can happen in US only :(
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  • evolgrinzevolgrinz Member UncommonPosts: 151
    Time for a surprise lawsuit against them. I'm sure they like that, everyone loves surprises :)
  • CygiCygi Member RarePosts: 257
    So "surprise mechanics" became the "sense of pride and accomplishment 2.0"?
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    edited June 2019
    Nope, gullible moronic consumers. If people quit spending money on these hucksters bullshit they would have zero power over anyone.
    ...people spending money on stuff you don't approve are 'gullible moronic consumers'?

    That begs a question who is actually the moron here.
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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404
    This will end up going nowhere. Lazy bastards wasting taxpayers money.
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  • ArmendiusArmendius Member UncommonPosts: 119
    I do not believe that renaming it change the product and issues around "lootboxes".

    The mechanics are still the same, you pay for a digital container, and gamble a random prize.
    That the prize may be suprising does not make it a different product by renaming the container.

    Gdemami
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    Aeander said:
    Scott23 said:
    Aeander said:
    k61977 said:

    Asm0deus said:

    I kind of like how he compares them to something illegal (kinder eggs) in the USA (at least last news I heard)...lmao



    Off topic. Kinder eggs are legal starting this year I believe it was. They made them change something about them can't remember, but you can buy them everywhere now.
    Isn't it like a Kinder Joy or something now? I believe the change was that the toy included in the egg has to be removed and placed separately from the egg.

    (It wasn't a gambling related issue, but rather a choking hazard issue that made Kinder eggs illegal.)
    That is correct: in the US you cannot have something that is non-food completely surrounded by food - no matter how big it is :)

    I totally deny smuggling them in for Christmas :)
    So would that not make strippers hiding in cakes at bachelor parties hilariously illegal by that definition?

    (Different kind of choking hazard.  :D
    Yes, it would have been my wife choking me.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    edited June 2019
    Armendius said:
    I do not believe that renaming it change the product and issues around "lootboxes".

    The mechanics are still the same, you pay for a digital container, and gamble a random prize.
    That the prize may be suprising does not make it a different product by renaming the container.

    As I stated before,  lootboxes are a form of gacha, and there are numerous references acknowledging its addictive and gambling.

    "Gacha can be played responsibility, but it is also a system that is designed to entrap players. It is, after all, Gambling. Gacha is designed to pull from expendable incomes (especially from those with huge incomes)… but it is designed to exploit. The rich. The gambling addicted. The intoxicated. The emotional. The foolish."

    https://forum.smallgiantgames.com/t/what-exactly-is-a-gacha-read-before-posting-things-about-unfair-pulls/29490


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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404
    edited June 2019
    If only these morons knew how to question them properly. Ask them what parameters they used to design the lootboxes oh sorry surprise boxes. Why was there a price on it if it is intended to be a surprise mechanic. Isn't making money off them by repeated purchases the main modus to gain money. 

    Isn't profiting from the poor impulses of people who gamble the main reason for the 'surprise'mechanic. If they were trying to fill a niche and help people who enjoy surprise mechanics why place an element of chance on the outcome and a purchase for that chance. There should also be a choice to purchase the same item without the surprise mechanic. The very fact that they placed a random outcome means they intended to profit from that random factor and the fact that people will try to obtain the item by repeated purchases makes it a gamble.
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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    edited June 2019
    Even Sonic the Hedgehog makes fun of EA :D


    Hi everyone - we are pleased to announce new "Surprise Mechanics" for Sonic Horses!

    You can now buy a "Surprise" for only 5 SonicBuxx™, or our new "Gaggle of Surprises" package for 200 SonicBuxx™!

    Don't worry - our treatment of these Tiny Horses is entirely ethical.

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  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    SBFord said:
    I SERIOUSLY guffawed until tears were streaming down my face. While I get his point, I'm just...speechless. :D :D :D

    Oh and bonus points for using "adroitly" for the first time in an article title...it's only taken a decade. All on a Wednesday too! :D
    LOL!!!!
    OMG, this is just priceless.

    So nice of EA to think we really are all morons to the point where calling it something different is all of a sudden going to sucker us :3
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  • stebo104stebo104 Member UncommonPosts: 31
    No matter what you call it, it's still a "Lootbox".
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    stebo104 said:
    No matter what you call it, it's still a "Lootbox".
    ....no matter what you call it, it doesn't matter.

    If you don't like the price, product, business model or w/e, just move on. Not everything on the market must be tailored to you.

    While certainly entertaining watching people being triggered going ape mode, it is quite scary at the same time.
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  • MargraveMargrave Member RarePosts: 1,371
    Ass

    More reason to never buy anything EA
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,060
    Let's just name it what it actually is.

    Unregulated gambling.
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  • CygiCygi Member RarePosts: 257
    Gdemami said:
    If you don't like the price, product, business model or w/e, just move on. Not everything on the market must be tailored to you.
    Ok, I'm moving on and not buying this or that game.

    But after a while even more games will have lootboxes, because it's easy cash grab.

    And we will have a situation, when I can't purchase any game, because all of them will have lootboxes.

    But hey! Gdemami said "move on! it'll be ok!"...
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