I think its funny they felt the need to make a statement about it.
Probably because people kept asking
Still funny, they have been asked thousands of questions and it says a lot about their headspace by the questions they choose to answer and the ones they don't
Maybe they want to answer the controversial ones to create media attention.
Perhaps they enjoy addressing the really strange or stupid questions, this one fits well into both categories.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
It's a subject that's brought up regularly by the less...informed lobby groups out there which regularly will bring up questions and concerns about violence in games and how that violence is directed towards characters in the games and how it reflects on the players and company.
Just the usual mud-slinging that gets addressed almost every time a new high profile game comes out. I remember every ME game getting flak about players "shagging their way across the galaxy". As an "open" game with freedom of action and choice, this kind of subject was inevitable.
My daughters grew up playing the Sims. One of their favorite activities was finding new ways to kill the families. They are all married and have loving, amazing families of their own.
I think it’s the people complaining about stuff like this that is going to destroy the world.
Killing adults is a-okay, but oh no, not the children! Hypocrisy at its finest.
It's the same with censoring words in shows, it's okay to watch people die, but don't say any naughty words!
Listen I don't agree with killing children in real life.. (who does outside of real psychopaths) .. but I want Cyberpunk to be as dark and gritty as possible.
If it's necessary for a pixel kid to die for my Vee's story then dammit that better happen. It sucks to see dead kids in any format but shit.. its reality. Kids die every day. If Cyberpunk is going for gritty realism, dead kids are right up that alley.
Nobody cares that Anabelle is about a dead kid so what's the big deal about dead kids in games? Either nobody dies or everybody dies is my mantra. Especially for Cyberpunk. Not saying I'm planning to kill one of these pixels kids mind you but I like knowing it could happen if I'm not careful. In Skyrim, I used that mod to make everyone "Killable" not to kill people but to know that everyone can die if not careful. It just adds more realism to it. I like it. That's not saying I'm going to do it in real life lol.. people are wild man.
In Cyberpunk it would be really cool to me if you having firefights in public areas lead to other things like an accidental bullet killing a synthetic kid. Now there's a questline involved with you dealing with that. It's super gritty but realistic that a stray bullet also hit a kid. It's very dark but its reality. Maybe you choose differently the next playthrough to avoid that scenario? I guess it depends on how much gritty reality you like in your games.
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Killing adults is a-okay, but oh no, not the children! Hypocrisy at its finest.
It's the same with censoring words in shows, it's okay to watch people die, but don't say any naughty words!
Killing adults is a-okay, but oh no, not the children! Hypocrisy at its finest.
It's the same with censoring words in shows, it's okay to watch people die, but don't say any naughty words!
Please tell me this is sarcasm.
Please tell me chicks with a metallic phallus is sarcasm.
It could go either way of Sarcasm or a hot date, depending on what you're in the mood for.
No worries all! You can still kill all non-plot specific NPC's even morer!
there will be a mod I am sure which will turn that back into normal, what I loved about the old Neverwinter nights rpg you could kill anything, along with the old morrowind games
I'm going to create an IRL Westworld and invite all you patriots to live out your "fantasies". Then when you're at the peak of your debasement turn all the NPCs safety measures off.
You get a pass for having the most awesome screen name and avatar. I will program the NPCs to let you live.
"As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*"
For anyone advocating for killing children in a game...you all are fucking idiots.
Those people can defend their in-game actions by saying that it's only a play and no-one is actually hurt.
But if you don't think that's ok defense for killing inside a game, please tell me, how do you justify yourself killing those ~100 humans during your average gaming session?
For anyone advocating for killing children in a game...you all are fucking idiots.
Those people can defend their in-game actions by saying that it's only a play and no-one is actually hurt.
But if you don't think that's ok defense for killing inside a game, please tell me, how do you justify yourself killing those ~100 humans during your average gaming session?
Awww please, those are adults. At least they fully understand what will happen to them when they play the NPC role in a videogame. Those kids don’t have a clue what they sign up for!
/Cheers, Lahnmir
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Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
SJW here, SJW there, go save the planet, not ruin games that isnt even real life, Fix Merica and the SJW / Antifa chaos, whole socity is ruined by Forum nerds grouping up IRL and think they so wise and bright cause their " Web buddies " gave them probs on delusional idelogy, It's a game, The one who play it fucked is the fucked up person, Fallout let u kill kids back in the day, but who wanted to anyway ._.
SJW here, SJW there, go save the planet, not ruin games that isnt even real life, Fix Merica and the SJW / Antifa chaos, whole socity is ruined by Forum nerds grouping up IRL and think they so wise and bright cause their " Web buddies " gave them probs on delusional idelogy, It's a game, The one who play it fucked is the fucked up person, Fallout let u kill kids back in the day, but who wanted to anyway ._.
I think there is a important message of substance here but your response reads like a Nostradamus Quatrain.
I think its more technicall then anything really, killing a npc who give a quest is ok you don't need to worry much, you just never get that quest, but killing a npc who needed for a certain quest will make it broken or fail it, on games who let you kill cerain quest realted npcs they give the failed to then because that was a expected behavior now try to do that with several quests
Sounds pretty reasonable TBH. I get the idea of being able to kill any NPC player wants - but I also believe that CD Project know what they should do in order to make best story possible, even if there'll be restrictions (whether they're technical of not)
I think some peeps are looking at it as 'it isn't real, it doesn't matter, what's the big fricking deal' and others are looking at it as a few steps too close to 'they're not real people, they're Chinese, so just send them in the mine with explosives so we can lay these railroad tracks,' type of scenario maybe? Maybe those are either side of the spectrum.
Idk, just trying to understand all sides with the different shades of gray.
It's hard telling, because it's very easy to say it's not real = doesn't matter, but when it does you just can't put your finger on what or why, it sounds like.
Pick up a kid, and use him/her to club to death a chick with at metal dong all you want, IDGAF.
I won't, and maybe being a parent has made me soft...those little bastards. I don't think the younger me would've cared either way.
Peeps are also assuming the people that don't want to kill kids also do mass murder to all adults, but maybe a lot of these peeps try to kill as few npc's as possible or only in self-defense.
I'm sure modders will come to the rescue on this like usual, which is why I love gaming on PC.
Even when I play games I tend to use the same values I have in real life. That sounds absurd but I do try to play the good guy in most games. Applying that I wouldn't kill pixels that are kids.
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Just the usual mud-slinging that gets addressed almost every time a new high profile game comes out. I remember every ME game getting flak about players "shagging their way across the galaxy". As an "open" game with freedom of action and choice, this kind of subject was inevitable.
It's odd, but not uncommon.
I could take this in so many directions....
It's the same with censoring words in shows, it's okay to watch people die, but don't say any naughty words!
If it's necessary for a pixel kid to die for my Vee's story then dammit that better happen. It sucks to see dead kids in any format but shit.. its reality. Kids die every day. If Cyberpunk is going for gritty realism, dead kids are right up that alley.
Nobody cares that Anabelle is about a dead kid so what's the big deal about dead kids in games? Either nobody dies or everybody dies is my mantra. Especially for Cyberpunk. Not saying I'm planning to kill one of these pixels kids mind you but I like knowing it could happen if I'm not careful. In Skyrim, I used that mod to make everyone "Killable" not to kill people but to know that everyone can die if not careful. It just adds more realism to it. I like it. That's not saying I'm going to do it in real life lol.. people are wild man.
In Cyberpunk it would be really cool to me if you having firefights in public areas lead to other things like an accidental bullet killing a synthetic kid. Now there's a questline involved with you dealing with that. It's super gritty but realistic that a stray bullet also hit a kid. It's very dark but its reality. Maybe you choose differently the next playthrough to avoid that scenario? I guess it depends on how much gritty reality you like in your games.
"The Society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."
Currently: Games Audio Engineer, you didn't hear what I heard, you heard what I wanted you to hear.
Please tell me this is sarcasm.
No worries all! You can still kill all non-plot specific NPC's even morer!
Gut Out!
What, me worry?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
But if you don't think that's ok defense for killing inside a game, please tell me, how do you justify yourself killing those ~100 humans during your average gaming session?
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Aloha Mr Hand !
Sounds pretty reasonable TBH. I get the idea of being able to kill any NPC player wants - but I also believe that CD Project know what they should do in order to make best story possible, even if there'll be restrictions (whether they're technical of not)
Also pve player: We should be able to kill kids. I mean, its just a game, that doesn't make me crazy irl!
Idk, just trying to understand all sides with the different shades of gray.
It's hard telling, because it's very easy to say it's not real = doesn't matter, but when it does you just can't put your finger on what or why, it sounds like.
Pick up a kid, and use him/her to club to death a chick with at metal dong all you want, IDGAF.
I won't, and maybe being a parent has made me soft...those little bastards. I don't think the younger me would've cared either way.
Peeps are also assuming the people that don't want to kill kids also do mass murder to all adults, but maybe a lot of these peeps try to kill as few npc's as possible or only in self-defense.
I'm sure modders will come to the rescue on this like usual, which is why I love gaming on PC.
Gut Out!
What, me worry?