I'm aware that most of GW related stuff is rather mediocre lately, but this is Gregor...I'll not get my hopes up, but it could be good. Dan's writing style lends itself more to comics or Real Time imo. And these(Gregor + Gideon) could be easily made unto interesting kinda harsh SF action / mystery series. And they can easily cut away the truly gruesome stuff without losing anything of note. Or if it would be, anger due to mutilation can easily be reframed.
How easy will that be? I tried to get a few quotes form the books to prove my point. But then found this anecdotal forum signature that rather sums up why TV producers will be giving this a make over laid on with a very big trowel:
"40k - where the genocidal, xenocidal, fascist, ultraconservative zealots with a morbid fear of technology and an unhealthy fondness for burning things... are the good guys.
—A forum signature."
Are there really that many quotes from the books that would be along those lines? I forget how much the Eisenhorn novels actually touch on the more grim dark aspects of 40k. Abnett's take on 40k tends to be a bit lighter and softer than most other 40k novels (which are already usually a bit lighter and softer than the codex lore)
I'm aware that most of GW related stuff is rather mediocre lately, but this is Gregor...I'll not get my hopes up, but it could be good. Dan's writing style lends itself more to comics or Real Time imo. And these(Gregor + Gideon) could be easily made unto interesting kinda harsh SF action / mystery series. And they can easily cut away the truly gruesome stuff without losing anything of note. Or if it would be, anger due to mutilation can easily be reframed.
How easy will that be? I tried to get a few quotes form the books to prove my point. But then found this anecdotal forum signature that rather sums up why TV producers will be giving this a make over laid on with a very big trowel:
"40k - where the genocidal, xenocidal, fascist, ultraconservative zealots with a morbid fear of technology and an unhealthy fondness for burning things... are the good guys.
—A forum signature."
Are there really that many quotes from the books that would be along those lines? I forget how much the Eisenhorn novels actually touch on the more grim dark aspects of 40k. Abnett's take on 40k tends to be a bit lighter and softer than most other 40k novels (which are already usually a bit lighter and softer than the codex lore)
I agree but I don't think Abbot's will be light enough for a TV studio, so you do have to question how recognisable their WH 40K will actually end up being. You did not mention RPG's like Dark Heresy they can make the codex look "light" at times.
I'm aware that most of GW related stuff is rather mediocre lately, but this is Gregor...I'll not get my hopes up, but it could be good. Dan's writing style lends itself more to comics or Real Time imo. And these(Gregor + Gideon) could be easily made unto interesting kinda harsh SF action / mystery series. And they can easily cut away the truly gruesome stuff without losing anything of note. Or if it would be, anger due to mutilation can easily be reframed.
How easy will that be? I tried to get a few quotes form the books to prove my point. But then found this anecdotal forum signature that rather sums up why TV producers will be giving this a make over laid on with a very big trowel:
"40k - where the genocidal, xenocidal, fascist, ultraconservative zealots with a morbid fear of technology and an unhealthy fondness for burning things... are the good guys.
—A forum signature."
Are there really that many quotes from the books that would be along those lines? I forget how much the Eisenhorn novels actually touch on the more grim dark aspects of 40k. Abnett's take on 40k tends to be a bit lighter and softer than most other 40k novels (which are already usually a bit lighter and softer than the codex lore)
I agree but I don't think Abbot's will be light enough for a TV studio, so you do have to question how recognisable their WH 40K will actually end up being. You did not mention RPG's like Dark Heresy they can make the codex look "light" at times.
We shall see, lets hope they pull it off.
Yea, in order of "grim dark", from darkest to lightest it probably goes like this:
RPGs -> Game material (Codexes, Imperial Armour, Specialist Games) -> darker Novels (mostly Horus Heresy) -> Lighter novels (Abnett, Ciaphas Cain) -> Dawn of War (maybe?) -> Warhammer Adventures (I had to bring it up cause I'm evil)
People clamouring for most grim dark aspects aren't going to get it from this series even if the series stays true to the spirit of its source material. Because its source material (Eisenhorn) isn't as grim dark as most of 40k to the point where even its darker aspects are probably just fine for reasonably mature networks.
I'm aware that most of GW related stuff is rather mediocre lately, but this is Gregor...I'll not get my hopes up, but it could be good. Dan's writing style lends itself more to comics or Real Time imo. And these(Gregor + Gideon) could be easily made unto interesting kinda harsh SF action / mystery series. And they can easily cut away the truly gruesome stuff without losing anything of note. Or if it would be, anger due to mutilation can easily be reframed.
How easy will that be? I tried to get a few quotes form the books to prove my point. But then found this anecdotal forum signature that rather sums up why TV producers will be giving this a make over laid on with a very big trowel:
"40k - where the genocidal, xenocidal, fascist, ultraconservative zealots with a morbid fear of technology and an unhealthy fondness for burning things... are the good guys.
—A forum signature."
Are there really that many quotes from the books that would be along those lines? I forget how much the Eisenhorn novels actually touch on the more grim dark aspects of 40k. Abnett's take on 40k tends to be a bit lighter and softer than most other 40k novels (which are already usually a bit lighter and softer than the codex lore)
I agree but I don't think Abbot's will be light enough for a TV studio, so you do have to question how recognisable their WH 40K will actually end up being. You did not mention RPG's like Dark Heresy they can make the codex look "light" at times.
We shall see, lets hope they pull it off.
Yea, in order of "grim dark", from darkest to lightest it probably goes like this:
RPGs -> Game material (Codexes, Imperial Armour, Specialist Games) -> darker Novels (mostly Horus Heresy) -> Lighter novels (Abnett, Ciaphas Cain) -> Dawn of War (maybe?) -> Warhammer Adventures (I had to bring it up cause I'm evil)
People clamouring for most grim dark aspects aren't going to get it from this series even if the series stays true to the spirit of its source material. Because its source material (Eisenhorn) isn't as grim dark as most of 40k to the point where even its darker aspects are probably just fine for reasonably mature networks.
Well you brought up something I had forgot, Warhammer Adventures, that shows what happens when a TV studio gets its hands on the franchise and how far they can go to change it. But you are right abut Abbots lighter pitch, I am just hoping that's light enough and they don't make Warhammer Adventures for adults.
I'm aware that most of GW related stuff is rather mediocre lately, but this is Gregor...I'll not get my hopes up, but it could be good. Dan's writing style lends itself more to comics or Real Time imo. And these(Gregor + Gideon) could be easily made unto interesting kinda harsh SF action / mystery series. And they can easily cut away the truly gruesome stuff without losing anything of note. Or if it would be, anger due to mutilation can easily be reframed.
How easy will that be? I tried to get a few quotes form the books to prove my point. But then found this anecdotal forum signature that rather sums up why TV producers will be giving this a make over laid on with a very big trowel:
"40k - where the genocidal, xenocidal, fascist, ultraconservative zealots with a morbid fear of technology and an unhealthy fondness for burning things... are the good guys.
—A forum signature."
Are there really that many quotes from the books that would be along those lines? I forget how much the Eisenhorn novels actually touch on the more grim dark aspects of 40k. Abnett's take on 40k tends to be a bit lighter and softer than most other 40k novels (which are already usually a bit lighter and softer than the codex lore)
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I'd say blood sacrificing one if his own allies to control a Chaos Demon so he could use it to destroy a Chaos Titan would be considered pretty dark.
Personally I think its adherence to the brutal source material will hinge on what media service it is being developed for.
Meh, betrayals and sacrifice happens in all sorts of stories.
Purging aliens JUST because they're aliens and forcing everyone to worship the emperor and that's from the side of the PROTAGONISTS on the other hand... is just not something Eisenhorn novels focus on. And that's before we get to things like Slaanesh (though admittingly even the darkest fluff of Warhammer 40k treats Slaanesh with "use your imagination to figure out just how depraved it was cause we aren't going to spell it out").
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We shall see, lets hope they pull it off.
RPGs -> Game material (Codexes, Imperial Armour, Specialist Games) -> darker Novels (mostly Horus Heresy) -> Lighter novels (Abnett, Ciaphas Cain) -> Dawn of War (maybe?) -> Warhammer Adventures (I had to bring it up cause I'm evil)
People clamouring for most grim dark aspects aren't going to get it from this series even if the series stays true to the spirit of its source material. Because its source material (Eisenhorn) isn't as grim dark as most of 40k to the point where even its darker aspects are probably just fine for reasonably mature networks.
Purging aliens JUST because they're aliens and forcing everyone to worship the emperor and that's from the side of the PROTAGONISTS on the other hand... is just not something Eisenhorn novels focus on. And that's before we get to things like Slaanesh (though admittingly even the darkest fluff of Warhammer 40k treats Slaanesh with "use your imagination to figure out just how depraved it was cause we aren't going to spell it out").