What isn't Vanilla about it though? Will it run on my old PC? Have they gotten rid of instant travel and all that crap?
Patch 1.12 was the final patch in World of Warcraft’s vanilladays and was originally released on Aug. 22, 2006. That is the version we are getting. Auction houses were linked in this version and all that. No modern WOW shenanigans.
It sounds good, but I quit after they allowed you to warp to Battlegrounds, is that still in there? The best thing about the game was having to travel to them and waiting outside.
I agree with you that travelling to the Battlegrounds was fun, created a lot of pvp opportunities specially going to Hillsbrad Foothills to enter Alterac, if i remember right, it was a Rogue gank fest lol
You and I have very different meanings for the word "opportunity."
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I'm interested if it's WoW how it was, playable on a PC from 2004 like Vanilla Private Servers. If however it's just based on today's game with different rules.... I do not care.
Thanks.
The system requirements are much higher than it was back in the day. They are using their modern backbone, and as such, all the system requirements of BFA apply to Classic. So don't bother dusting off your old PC... if you can't play retail WoW on it, you won't be able to play Classic on it.
Vanilla is just a coined phrase to refer to "original" release. However, Classic is not "original" release, it's patch 1.12 which is essentially the last patch released before TBC came out. What this means is, you have all the character, gear, dungeon, raid, and battleground fixes built in at launch, only you won't be able to access certain content until Blizzard releases it. It's already there and in place, unlike launch when it was released via patches.
This means, no balancing. It is what it is and will stay that way for the duration unlike "original" WoW that went through a myriad of changes to get to patch 1.12.
They revealed the system requirements a while ago. As should be expected, they are significantly lower than the modern version of the game due to the simpler graphics.
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Windows® 7 64-bit (with latest Service Packs)
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Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6600 or AMD Phenom™ X3 8750
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NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800 GT 512 MB or AMD Radeon™ HD 4850 512 MB or Intel® HD Graphics 4000
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2 GB RAM (4 GB for integrated graphics such as Intel HD Graphics series)
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5 GB available space
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Broadband internet connection
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Keyboard and mouse required. Other input devices are not supported.
In what state will it be in? the last patch before TBC or so?
their doing phases part 1-6 ? it unknown the details beyond first part is molten core, no battle grounds and each phases after pushes it closer to the last patch before setting up TBC. as it stand their been very quit on details as players are fickle and their trying avoid pissing on the majority with things not set in stone.
Just watch one of the 100s/1000s of streams on it next week. Easy money for streamers, dont even need commentary.
I can already see the drama since method is trying a host a world first to 60 race when they reach 60 in 1-2 days, "this isn't the true classic experience! fail!"
Just watch one of the 100s/1000s of streams on it next week. Easy money for streamers, dont even need commentary.
I can already see the drama since method is trying a host a world first to 60 race when they reach 60 in 1-2 days, "this isn't the true classic experience! fail!"
Just watch one of the 100s/1000s of streams on it next week. Easy money for streamers, dont even need commentary.
I can already see the drama since method is trying a host a world first to 60 race when they reach 60 in 1-2 days, "this isn't the true classic experience! fail!"
No one will hit 60 in 1-2 days.
Probably not but maybe 4:
"Some players, on certain classes, are able to achieve level 60 in extraordinarily fast times such as Joana, who has the world record fastest time to reach max level in Vanilla WoW at 4 days 20 hours and who is planning to play WoW Classic and smash his existing record."
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In what state will it be in? the last patch before TBC or so?
It’s based on patch 1.12, the last Vanilla patch (excluding the 2.0 TBC pre-patch) but with staggered content release. They are doing six phases of content release. Phase 1 is Onyxia and Molten Core. Phase 2 adds Dire Maul and some world bosses, Phase 3 Honor system and Blackwinf Lair, etc.
Just watch one of the 100s/1000s of streams on it next week. Easy money for streamers, dont even need commentary.
I can already see the drama since method is trying a host a world first to 60 race when they reach 60 in 1-2 days, "this isn't the true classic experience! fail!"
No one will hit 60 in 1-2 days.
Probably not but maybe 4:
"Some players, on certain classes, are able to achieve level 60 in extraordinarily fast times such as Joana, who has the world record fastest time to reach max level in Vanilla WoW at 4 days 20 hours and who is planning to play WoW Classic and smash his existing record."
I'm interested if it's WoW how it was, playable on a PC from 2004 like Vanilla Private Servers. If however it's just based on today's game with different rules.... I do not care.
Thanks.
Nope, not like back in the day vanilla.. There's some similarities especially graphically, but from a gameplay standpoint, exp to level is totally different(much faster than it used to be), mobs don't hit as hard and players aren't dying, little to no resting between battles how you used to have to do, scaling for classes is totally different than how it was. Players pulling mass amounts of mobs and living(couldn't do this in vanilla) The list goes on....
There's a LOT of things under the hood that are NOT vanilla in the slightest. So, short answer - Nope, not even close. While it may visually look like it, it simply doesn't play like it. I'm sure tons and tons of ppl will play it and love it while others wont. I can't justify spending time playing the game when it's going to stop at a certain point from a progression standpoint so I will not be playing it when it launches.
1 thing I find odd is how excited people are with Classic WoW coming up, very well knowing that the content will eventually hit a wall yet they bitch about lack of content in all current versions of WoW. Very oxymoron like.
Seriously, wtf are you on about?
I guess you mixed up classic wow with retail wow.
Have you played classic yet on the beta? It's not even close to vanilla. Proof is in the pudding. Soooo many things that are different.
I mean the devs are running an original blade to cross check the differences that people keep calling bugs or wrong that are actually correct. but sure let's say it's completely different.
1 - your memories betray you from what the original experience actually was.
2 - Private servers were mainly guess work, so if you've been playing them don't expect them to be an accurate representation.
3 - i have the beta not just the stress test and it seems like a pretty accurate representation of what i played back then.
4 - yeah of course people are gonna level faster, they know the zones like the back of their hand and don't have to spent long periods of time trying to complete quests they have no idea of where they are going or spending time on thotbot looking for the answers to quest mob locations etc...
5 - the devs are going to the trouble of replicating actual bugs that were present in Classic, pretty sure if they are going to go to all that trouble.. they aren't going to increase the speed of leveling just for the lulz.
I guess this is the real problem with releasing a Classic server.. it can't live up to everyones expectations because their memories and original feeling honestly can't be replicated.
Edit - before you ask me to prove i have classic beta
As I said to the other dude, you don't have to agree. My experiences are my experiences and my friends who play agree as well. If you think its close to vanilla than ok, that's perfectly fine. We can agree to disagree.
we can agree to disagree, but i made my comment before you edited your post to say it's your opinion... when you first wrote it you made it sound like it's a fact and the proof is the game which is what i was rebutting.
I guess at the end of the day regardless of what your thoughts are based off your own memories the actual experience is being checked against a real live server blade from classic WoW so the experience will be as 1:1 as possible.
Jesus now we're just nitpicking aren't we? This is why I hate posting on these forums because people turn arguments into bullshit Im right your wrong arguments like this.
It's already been proven that it's not 1:1 when people have come out an ran tests of abilities and weapons scaling differently than vanilla, exp rates are different, mobs damage is different, the list goes on but thats ok you don't have to agree. I'm done arguing with you. To me and many others, this shit isn't close to vanilla. You can say or think it is all you want, Blizzard can come out an say oh yeah we're replicating bugs and problems it had back in the day and people would buy it. It doesn't matter because to some of us that did play Vanilla and remember the experience, this isn't vanilla.
And please don't sit here and tell me I don't remember much of Vanilla. I can remember bright as day experiences from Everquest 20 years ago.
ran tests off what?
blizzard has the damn server up and running to check against. All other arguments are invalid.
Edit - let me fix what you wrote "i hate posting on forums because people present facts that i get upset about when my own opinion isn't fact and then present other futile arguments as facts which in fact they arent.. and MAH MEMORIES ARE MORE RIGHT THAN YOUR FACTS"
Edit 2 - I did infact play vanilla, i'm probably one of the earliest players of it and if they still listed account creation dates i could show you considering i had access from friends and family alpha and i'm talking about when 80% of skills had placeholder names and barely anything worked.
hell i hated the damn game up until close to release from how terrible of experience i had during the alpha etc...
and from my memories.. it feels pretty close to how Classic did at the end of classic before TBC launched.
So because some people have magically ran "tests" that validate your opinion it's fact.
i'd hate to break it to you but the fact blizzard has a genuine original classic server blade running to check things against isn't an opinion.. it's a fact. they do and it's damn near 1:1
Hey guy. Please stop throwing facts at us.
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Vanilla is just a coined phrase to refer to "original" release. However, Classic is not "original" release, it's patch 1.12 which is essentially the last patch released before TBC came out. What this means is, you have all the character, gear, dungeon, raid, and battleground fixes built in at launch, only you won't be able to access certain content until Blizzard releases it. It's already there and in place, unlike launch when it was released via patches.
This means, no balancing. It is what it is and will stay that way for the duration unlike "original" WoW that went through a myriad of changes to get to patch 1.12.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-classic-pre-launch-test-11-00-a-m-pdt-august-8-and-minimum-specs/239621
But no. You cannot play it on a 2004 PC well. They didn't ignore 15 years of global technological progress in the back end.
"Some players, on certain classes, are able to achieve level 60 in extraordinarily fast times such as Joana, who has the world record fastest time to reach max level in Vanilla WoW at 4 days 20 hours and who is planning to play WoW Classic and smash his existing record."
https://www.warcrafttavern.com/news/how-long-does-it-take-to-get-to-level-60-in-wow-classic-an-objective-look/
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Right now the 1-45 record is 52 hours on classic with an empty server.
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