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We had Empires run by Emperors, we had Kingdoms run by Kings, now we have Countries...
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Hey, at least we know the people running this site are actually reading what we're saying.
It does create a duplicate discussion though, even if their intent is to bring more attention to forum topics they think are interesting.
Let me guess, the next few fascinating discussions:
Are cosmetic items P2W?
Can PvE games really be P2W?
Are lootboxes gambing?
Cake vs Pie?
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First off, Pie>Cake you piece of *!#(
j/k =P
I guess the other "Have you called in sick from work to play" thread wasn't a coincidence. Did MMORPG get taken over by a bunch of street urchins who pick pocket to survive? Sheesh.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Can you not read? The second line in that post says "OP delete5230 originally posted the following", thus giving credit to the Original Poster by name, and linking to the original thread.
Mess with the best, Die like the rest
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Subscription game reduced fairly quickly to ftp. EU game sold off to a wallet grab publisher.
Gankers paradise for anyone trying to actually pve.
Busted idea is busted.
SWG (pre-cu) - AoC (pre-f2p) - PotBS (pre-boarder) - DDO - LotRO (pre-f2p) - STO (pre-f2p) - GnH (beta tester) - SWTOR - Neverwinter
Aren't there plenty of PVE games that have gone FTP rather quickly? Aion maybe failed because it was a bad game in general, not just because it allowed pvp.
1) Absence or Little punishment for the PKer - Griefers will walk around thinking thier are kings of the game, sometimes this creates whole guilds of scumbags. If the game is full loot on death, dear lord....indeed paradise.
2) Too much punishment - Usually the punishment is so high that PVP is avoided at all costs. Although some players would create a char just for griefing.
3) Zones ONLY for PVP - This is a a problem to both sides, if a PVP Zone have a rewards for PVP, PVErs will complain, if the zone have no or low rewards..well no point of doing the PVP.
4) "MMSOG's" Massive Multiplayer Solo Online Game - Games where you have no necessity of allies or groups. They are solo games where everyone play at same server, so the absense of groups to stand against de predators also generates the imbalance
Ken Kesey - "“This world . . . belongs to the strong, my friend! ..."
(it's a big statement google for the complete version)
This applies to REAL LIFE and for sure on MMO's, like or not, stronger devours the weak...but as well protect them. If the PVP mechanics is well implemented, you will see PVPers fighting but a very limited number of griefers. Don't get me wrong, people will still be able to attack, that is part of the adrenaline of the adventure. I dont usually see PVErs complaining that they died from a mob or in a DG/RAID that was stronger than them, but usually they will if its a player.
I'm also a great advocate for the best gear be obtained only trought some process that PVP is involved, for example: open DG/RAID, Commerce route that is dangerous (weather/mobs/other players), Seiges/region control, etc... I'm in favor of the gear be able to be sold/trade, so the PVE strict player can have access, but they will need understand they have thier limitation as they are not doing the full content. Like saying "I wanna lose weight without stop eating lasagna", well you will need work a lot more to get the goal, same as a PVEr.
Even if you separate them there are balance issues *cough* GW2
So why not have open world PvP as an option like SWG.
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It is a perennial issue which may always divide us, when you saw the knee jerk reactions to the idea Pantheon was going to release as PvP (it was not but posters just read the first sentence) you realise it is as relevant today as its always been.
I don't get that many opportunities to raise the flag for Realm versus Realm, they are expensive and not seen as a core essential when it comes to MMORPGs. So I welcome the chance to raise RvR where you get the best of both worlds. It is like nature or nurture, some questions don't go away.
As to your questions:
No.
Yes.
Yes.
Cake when I was younger, but I no longer have a sweet tooth so its pie now.