How is unchained different? I remember the original would ask of you so much money for gear it was ridiculous.
What Kano means, but refuses to say out loud, is that there's no P2W in the game at the moment. Some people think they might add it later, some think they won't. No one really knows what will happen.
There is 100% chance that P2W will be added to Unchained at some point - because retail is going to go to shit, and XL and Gamigo will want to cash in as much as possible off unchained.
Like you want to believe that XL and Gamigo don't want money over all else?
come on now - everyone knows that P2W is inevitable and guaranteed - only a matter of when
The whole "no P2W at launch" is bait, just to get you in so they can P2W you later - this is as plain as day.
It's not inevitable, nothing is as plain as day and the way you try to push it as if it's some kind of fact ruins the credibility of anything you say. It's your prediction, nothing else. Your game here is to keep saying they'll add it, then if they haven't in 6 months you'll just say they'll add it in the next 6 months. It'll never stop. You'll refuse to be proven wrong and you'll nerdgasm if you're eventually proven right. All the while attempting to slander the game as much as possible to try put people off.
It's really weird what you're doing here. It's like some expert level forum PvP where you either cruise around all cocky like you know something everyone else doesn't or you gloat if you're eventually proven right. You're setting yourself up for success, in your mind, either way. Extreme egotism.
My reply to Grogstrong was the most genuine and factual thing anyone could say about AAU right now; we do not know what will happen but there's no P2W at the moment. Yours wasn't.
Just exposing an obvious from a bait and switch - that is all.
Call it egotism - I dont care - once P2W kicks in - at least remember what I said, will you?
How could I forget? You've said it about 400 times in the last week alone.
I never said they won't add it so I don't get why you even said that. I said we don't know. You're not proving anything to anyone. No one cares if you're proven right or if you're proven wrong. You are seriously wasting your time.
I am telling you that I know, others know too.
You keep saying nobody knows- this is what I am trying to tell you - this is where you are wrong.
The post P2W switch was planned a long time ago and is known.
How more clearly can I spell it out?
You could explain exactly how it's known for a fact.
Don't bring the goods, I call bullshit.
I expect one of your "I know people in the business" kind of replies here that will, still, prove nothing.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
You want recorded convos from discord? You wouldn't believe any of it as you dont know who the people speaking are.
There is no evidence I can present that you would believe so what's the point
I could bring you into the chat room with an employee from Gamgio and you wouldn't even know who they were. You'd think its some stranger pretending to be an employee
See what I mean?
Even if I showed you the goods, you wouldnt know what the hell you were looking at.
So what would be the point?
Even if I got you a face to face meeting with any of the higher ups at Gamgio - you wouldn't know who they were or what they did, because you've never met them or know who they are. Do you even know the name of the guy running the Gamigo operations in US? Gamigo is super secretive about org charts - it's quite comical for a public company.
So no matter what I say or how I try to back it up it will be useless and untrustworthy.
So the only thing I can tell you is - see what happens post launch - be there to witness it yourself first hand.
That is the proof.
Just know that "we dont know" is not true for all here.
Yeh, I've seen you use this insider information thing lots of times around here over the years and it always comes down to this. I have no idea if you really do know lots of people or if you're just a compulsive liar.. or if those people you know are compulsive liars.
What I do know if that if you really do know, it must be frustrating for you. If not, then you probably needed a specialist a long time ago.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
Either way - you can speculate a billion possibilities and it wont get you anywhere.
The truth will reveal itself in the end
It will just take some time - the launch date is here and I have my popcorn ready
I'm not speculating things. I've decided you exaggerate what you know and have been doing it for years about tons of different topics. I came to that conclusion based on the only thing I have... everything I've seen you say here for years. What else can I do? You seem to play this card every time you reach a certain point in a discussion about any game. It's a real trump card that you like to play to try win every topic. You always mention it much later in a discussion though, never at the start. Always drops right when you need it to.
If P2W is added eventually it still doesn't prove that you 'know' things others don't, just that you could have guessed right this time and your bluff paid off.
I don't really care either way to be honest. You're not important. Just know that you didn't prove anything and if/when you're enjoying your popcorn, I'll be pitying you because you get a kick out of that kind of thing. That's a terrible personality to have.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
Laughing at terrible companies who want to scam players is a terrible personality to have?
In that case - I cant be more happy about my terrible personality.
Well you can judge me however you want - it's all good - you dont know me, I donr know you - it's all just pissing in the wind on these forums, none of this matters at all.
I am going to enjoy every second of watching this scam-ship sink ))
Yeh, we've reached the impasse that always happens after you drop your trump card. We'll just go in circles from now on if we carry on. Well done.
I guess I'll have to go back to trying to ignore you derailing every AAU topic.
If it does go P2W and you start mocking the people that bought it, that's not laughing at just the company.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
Laughing at terrible companies who want to scam players is a terrible personality to have?
In that case - I cant be more happy about my terrible personality.
Well you can judge me however you want - it's all good - you dont know me, I donr know you - it's all just pissing in the wind on these forums, none of this matters at all.
I am going to enjoy every second of watching this scam-ship sink ))
Yeh, we've reached the impasse that always happens after you drop your trump card. We'll just go in circles from now on if we carry on. Well done.
I guess I'll have to go back to trying to ignore you derailing every AAU topic.
If it does go P2W and you start mocking the people that bought it, that's not laughing at just the company.
I feel sorry for the players who get scammed. I take no joy in that as I know that players just want to play a good game and they are completely unaware of the company behind the wheel.
If I do that going forward - shame on me.
Fair enough, I take back what I said.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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How can anyone deny that this is going p2w by year end? They already got caught with their hand in the cookie jar and haven't even released yet.
They will keep pushing at the edges until they don't get any major pushback and then they will add more and more until it's launch all over again. Same thing happened last time. Same thing happened with BDO.
ArcheAge unchained will be so much fun especially since now there is no pay to win and they have a good anti cheat system finally the playing field is equal, team work will be very important and everyone gets land on top of that I am very curious to see the new graphical update on release..
You want recorded convos from discord? You wouldn't believe any of it as you dont know who the people speaking are.
There is no evidence I can present that you would believe so what's the point
I could bring you into the chat room with an employee from Gamgio and you wouldn't even know who they were. You'd think its some stranger pretending to be an employee
See what I mean?
Even if I showed you the goods, you wouldnt know what the hell you were looking at.
So what would be the point?
Even if I got you a face to face meeting with any of the higher ups at Gamgio - you wouldn't know who they were or what they did, because you've never met them or know who they are. Do you even know the name of the guy running the Gamigo operations in US? Gamigo is super secretive about org charts - it's quite comical for a public company.
So no matter what I say or how I try to back it up it will be useless and untrustworthy.
So the only thing I can tell you is - see what happens post launch - be there to witness it yourself first hand.
That is the proof.
Just know that "we dont know" is not true for all here.
Yeh, I've seen you use this insider information thing lots of times around here over the years and it always comes down to this. I have no idea if you really do know lots of people or if you're just a compulsive liar.. or if those people you know are compulsive liars.
What I do know if that if you really do know, it must be frustrating for you. If not, then you probably needed a specialist a long time ago.
My money is on kano being right. He has been on numerous times before. I doubt he will be wrong this time either.
If you don't think this game is going pay to win eventually you're in luck...I've got a badass unicorn that can turn itself into a convertible or attack helicopter that I would like to sell you.
Considering the highest cost buy in is $80, what difference does it make?
Even if they go p2w after a time it is quite possible one could have already got their money's worth in entertainment by then. If they defy the expectations of many and don't, the value received will continue to grow over time.
For those interested in giving it a shot there isn't all that much risk involved.
Either way - you can speculate a billion possibilities and it wont get you anywhere.
The truth will reveal itself in the end
It will just take some time - the launch date is here and I have my popcorn ready
I'm not speculating things. I've decided you exaggerate what you know and have been doing it for years about tons of different topics. I came to that conclusion based on the only thing I have... everything I've seen you say here for years. What else can I do? You seem to play this card every time you reach a certain point in a discussion about any game. It's a real trump card that you like to play to try win every topic. You always mention it much later in a discussion though, never at the start. Always drops right when you need it to.
If P2W is added eventually it still doesn't prove that you 'know' things others don't, just that you could have guessed right this time and your bluff paid off.
I don't really care either way to be honest. You're not important. Just know that you didn't prove anything and if/when you're enjoying your popcorn, I'll be pitying you because you get a kick out of that kind of thing. That's a terrible personality to have.
feh you also are not important btw, no one is, but we already told you, so when thing go south we WILL be laughting at people who feel
then we will lament, because this whole thing will not help for the next MMO be any good, if conning players are good enough to make a buck, why make something with quality?
ArcheAge unchained will be so much fun especially since now there is no pay to win and they have a good anti cheat system finally the playing field is equal, team work will be very important and everyone gets land on top of that I am very curious to see the new graphical update on release..
Awesome sarcasm, you make those who live under the bridge proud.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
ArcheAge unchained will be so much fun especially since now there is no pay to win and they have a good anti cheat system finally the playing field is equal, team work will be very important and everyone gets land on top of that I am very curious to see the new graphical update on release..
Awesome sarcasm, you make those who live under the bridge proud.
Oh wait, you were serious?
should we tell him the graphic update will also be on the free servers? so he don't need to waste money?
ah right, they are so delusional its almost sad to see then break later.
Either way - you can speculate a billion possibilities and it wont get you anywhere.
The truth will reveal itself in the end
It will just take some time - the launch date is here and I have my popcorn ready
I'm not speculating things. I've decided you exaggerate what you know and have been doing it for years about tons of different topics. I came to that conclusion based on the only thing I have... everything I've seen you say here for years. What else can I do? You seem to play this card every time you reach a certain point in a discussion about any game. It's a real trump card that you like to play to try win every topic. You always mention it much later in a discussion though, never at the start. Always drops right when you need it to.
If P2W is added eventually it still doesn't prove that you 'know' things others don't, just that you could have guessed right this time and your bluff paid off.
I don't really care either way to be honest. You're not important. Just know that you didn't prove anything and if/when you're enjoying your popcorn, I'll be pitying you because you get a kick out of that kind of thing. That's a terrible personality to have.
feh you also are not important btw, no one is, but we already told you, so when thing go south we WILL be laughting at people who feel
then we will lament, because this whole thing will not help for the next MMO be any good, if conning players are good enough to make a buck, why make something with quality?
Don't bother replying to me. At least Kano makes an effort to have a conversation, you just lol and wtf bomb your way through everything, insult people and talk shit. You'll be banned and gone eventually.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
At the moment they are making all the right noises (removal of gifting of premium items etc) so its probably worth giving a try with its cheapest pack . Who knows they might make a go of it and not go down the P2W route too much and if they do can always give up then . Lets face it 20 pounds even if it ends up being a few months of game play isn't exactly going to break the bank .
Its not like there is much else that interests me at the moment .
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Don't bring the goods, I call bullshit.
I expect one of your "I know people in the business" kind of replies here that will, still, prove nothing.
What I do know if that if you really do know, it must be frustrating for you. If not, then you probably needed a specialist a long time ago.
If P2W is added eventually it still doesn't prove that you 'know' things others don't, just that you could have guessed right this time and your bluff paid off.
I don't really care either way to be honest. You're not important. Just know that you didn't prove anything and if/when you're enjoying your popcorn, I'll be pitying you because you get a kick out of that kind of thing. That's a terrible personality to have.
Yeh, we've reached the impasse that always happens after you drop your trump card. We'll just go in circles from now on if we carry on. Well done.
I guess I'll have to go back to trying to ignore you derailing every AAU topic.
If it does go P2W and you start mocking the people that bought it, that's not laughing at just the company.
Pbbbt... who am I kidding, I'll likely be dancing over their graves.....
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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trying unchained or be a part of the 425k ppl looking for a blackhole on twitch?
They will keep pushing at the edges until they don't get any major pushback and then they will add more and more until it's launch all over again. Same thing happened last time. Same thing happened with BDO.
ArcheAge unchained will be so much fun especially since now there is no pay to win and they have a good anti cheat system finally the playing field is equal, team work will be very important and everyone gets land on top of that I am very curious to see the new graphical update on release..
Oh wait, you were serious?
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Its not like there is much else that interests me at the moment .