Being that GW is a Role Playing Game, I would expect that atleast tries to lend itself to role playing. IMO role playing isn't just talking like you are in character but it's also being a self sufficient character that interacts with other characters. That being said GW does just the simplest RPG elements and leaves out the ones that are too time consuming.
NPCs creating objects is not 'crafting' in my book. Once again GW takes out all the difficult or time consuming elements of crafting and just leaves you to get the materials.
As far as 'running' through GW, I belive that the devs have said that was intentional. While it is impressive that a character can run through a zone, the fact that they can drag others through because everyuone in thier party follows them through the zones irreguardless isn't impressive. Normally I would call that an exploit. The fact that it is part of normal gamplay is horrible. Playing through 'godmode' in halflife, is like you said a cheat....big difference.
Having said all this, if you like this sort of gameplay that's cool. But GW is not a good game for RP'ing.
Originally posted by Bhob Well, that is true there's a storyline, but what's that maybe a couple of months? From what I recall playing the focus was to pay someone to drag you through to get the best armor and race your way to to level 20. Start over and do the same over and over.
No, that was *your* focus. I have been playing almost a month now and have never paid for a run anywhere. I prefer to play the game and experience it. The furthest I've gotten, thus far, is Yak's bend. My wife and I both love the game. If you play it and don't use spoilers like buying quest items from other players (get them yourselves, it's a LOT more fun) or paying for runs to new locations, or having some high level drag you around in a zone you have no business being in then you can really get immersed in the lore of the game. I even enjoy reading the various monuments strewn around the lands. And talking to the NPC's reveals a very well developed story behind the game.
Guildwars can be played as a purely PVP game, if you so desire. But it absolutely has a very top notch storyline to it if you allow yourself to take the time to experience it. Level 20 will happen on its own eventually. There's no need to race to it.
Now, what I will say is this: Once I've unlocked an area on one character I have no problem with getting a run to it with another so that I can access the content I've already explored a little more easily with the new character. After all, going through the same zone endless times does get a bit old. So while I refuse to use runs or what-have-you the first time through... if I get the same quests or need to get to the same place with another character I am not against bypassing the 'story' to 'catch up' to where I already am with another character.
Bottom line: Guild Wars has very strong RP elements. But you have to be willing to experience them. I was online last night playing and got into a really good roleplaying session with another player when we were doing group missions together. Whats funny is he's not normally a roleplayer but he said the cutscenes really draw him into the game. (And I have to agree... the cutscenes are very good, I always watch them).
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Diablo is considered a RPG... I think that should put any agruement to rest. You played the role of a warror off to hunt down and kill diablo.
Same thing with FF7... one of the best RPGs ever... You don't talk to your TV and say "Tifa, Oh how I love your boobies." If you did don't admit to it here. Point remains you don't need to have a chat group or interact with other live plaeyers in order to Role-play.
Once again the lines have blurred
The above is role-playing
Saying in chat in WoW "Lay some of dat juju one me." is also role-playing.
Pretending to be a miner can be role-playing to. Heck pretending/acting to be anything you are not is role-playing.
Whether you playing as Cloud in FF7 (assuming the role of Cloud) or playing as Necro in GW (assuming the role of someone that likes to play with dead people, and cut themselves) it is role-playing. You are assuming a role. The role or the healer, the role of the tank... etc etc.
find a guild wars fan site and post on their forums that you are looking for a role-playing guild.
as far as the community, I find them to be great. often times more experienced players have given me advice on how to setup my skills to be more effective. i've had questions answered often in general chat, etc.
i think a lot of the bad mouthing about the GW community comes from people that don't know how to act themselves. act like a grownup in GW and you'll be treated like one.
Originally posted by Elnator Originally posted by Bhob Well, that is true there's a storyline, but what's that maybe a couple of months? From what I recall playing the focus was to pay someone to drag you through to get the best armor and race your way to to level 20. Start over and do the same over and over.
No, that was *your* focus. I have been playing almost a month now and have never paid for a run anywhere. I prefer to play the game and experience it. The furthest I've gotten, thus far, is Yak's bend. My wife and I both love the game. If you play it and don't use spoilers like buying quest items from other players (get them yourselves, it's a LOT more fun) or paying for runs to new locations, or having some high level drag you around in a zone you have no business being in then you can really get immersed in the lore of the game. I even enjoy reading the various monuments strewn around the lands. And talking to the NPC's reveals a very well developed story behind the game.
+rep.
people who use walkthroughs for games really aren't playing or experiencing the game. therefore, they really can't comment on the game.
You cant do mining and fishing but you can have pet if you are Ranger.When you gonna get a pet you need a skill, and hunt at pets you want to have, like: Bears, Wolfes, Tigers and pets like that
Guild Wars is a much maligned game around here, but to be honest it is a fairly entertaining gaming experience. No, it isn't the most conducive to text-based roleplaying and socialising, the game is focused on fast-paced action, missions, quests and building a character for PvP. All of that is good fun, and there is no monthly fee, to boot. But in terms of text-based RP, it's not the most conducive. Surely if you find a good RP group, it's doable, but there will be less of these people in GW than in other online games, due to the nature of the gameplay (eg, the lack of a crafter/socialiser group in the game), and the fact that most people who play are there for the fast-paced gameplay and are getting busy while they are playing the game.
In games that feature crafting as a full on profession, people will sit and craft and chat all the time. In GW what you are doing is all action, unless you are sitting in town doing nothing, or waiting at the Guild Hall for a PvP match to begin. Yes there are times for socialising, but it's not like other MMOs where there are people who are playing the game mostly to socialise and choose a class that facilitates that.
Originally posted by Novaseeker Except that there isn't a "social class". In games that feature crafting as a full on profession, people will sit and craft and chat all the time. In GW what you are doing is all action, unless you are sitting in town doing nothing, or waiting at the Guild Hall for a PvP match to begin. Yes there are times for socialising, but it's not like other MMOs where there are people who are playing the game mostly to socialise and choose a class that facilitates that.
i get your point , but we do socialize , thats why there are guilds and alliences
we dont just make partys to explore or pvp , we chat , sometimes i log in and just chat for 5 hours , not even one time i go out
Originally posted by ricefarmer im interested in this game since its number one now...... anyways can anyone tell me if there is any "role-playing" aspects to this game at all??? like mining, fishing, hunting.. pets etc..?? stuff to do when your not questin or pvp or somethin...?
Well, there is one rp thing, the runners, they run you to the next town and you pay them, also you can have a pet if you are a ranger. GW is more Questing and PvP.
But if you really want heavy rp, play EvE online. Yo can be a miner, a bounty hunter, a manufacturer, a trader, a transporter, or a pirate, and many other things.
Originally posted by fizzle322 Heh. Reading these responses makes me want to get this game even more.
I hate fishing/crafting/roleplay. I got fishing to 300 in WoW. What a waste of time.
oh oh i got 315 fishing in WoW.. yay fishing poles.. lol meh fishing if fun when you got a mass of 40+ peep there or your guild jsut messing around and then your pvp on and 20 horde assassins kill you, lol ^_^
I have been playing almost a month now and have never paid for a run anywhere. I prefer to play the game and experience it. The furthest I've gotten, thus far, is Yak's bend. My wife and I both love the game. If you play it and don't use spoilers like buying quest items from other players (get them yourselves, it's a LOT more fun) or paying for runs to new locations, or having some high level drag you around in a zone you have no business being in then you can really get immersed in the lore of the game. I even enjoy reading the various monuments strewn around the lands. And talking to the NPC's reveals a very well developed story behind the game.
Hey, Elnator, you managed to sum up all the reasons that I love Guild Wars
I am sure I have said this before BUT, I dont understand why you would pay your money and then get run all the way from Ascalon to Droks, when the wife and I played the game there was no running or runners, and we played the game and it took a few months but we finished the game and both enjoyed it so much we started a new set of characters and started again, It seems foreign to me to pay someone to remove 60% of the game content by running you through the game by means of short cuts.
I tell you a strange thing about RP, you must have noticed that some Warriors in the game take on a Warrior mentality the "I am indestuctable" sort of mentality, and monk get there own version which is "I am really important and misunderstood" I wonder if some people are drawn to some characters, they need to do a study on this, shame I already have my Phychology degree it would have made an interesting study for my final year
Originally posted by xuinasha Originally posted by fizzle322 Heh. Reading these responses makes me want to get this game even more.
I hate fishing/crafting/roleplay. I got fishing to 300 in WoW. What a waste of time.
oh oh i got 315 fishing in WoW.. yay fishing poles.. lol meh fishing if fun when you got a mass of 40+ peep there or your guild jsut messing around and then your pvp on and 20 horde assassins kill you, lol ^_^
in defence of fishing I have 300 in fishing and the Nat Pagle fishing rod from the quest and use fish attractors, this particular toon is also a Herb/Alchemist and I used to spend my time collecting herbs and fish and making Pots n food, I mean if you take the buff value for the Mightfish Steak's and the value of the Free action Pots from Oily's, it must be said that although the grind for Wow fishing to get to the 200+ point is ver very very tedious the benifits are good at the end, the Savory delights are a good laugh "O arrrr"
Originally posted by Tigercha I am sure I have said this before BUT, I dont understand why you would pay your money and then get run all the way from Ascalon to Droks, when the wife and I played the game there was no running or runners, and we played the game and it took a few months but we finished the game and both enjoyed it so much we started a new set of characters and started again, It seems foreign to me to pay someone to remove 60% of the game content by running you through the game by means of short cuts. I tell you a strange thing about RP, you must have noticed that some Warriors in the game take on a Warrior mentality the "I am indestuctable" sort of mentality, and monk get there own version which is "I am really important and misunderstood" I wonder if some people are drawn to some characters, they need to do a study on this, shame I already have my Phychology degree it would have made an interesting study for my final year
yes , anet said that people tend to chose a profession that match their own RL mentality they did try to fill all kinds of people , and still continue to do it with the new professions.
ive made 3 roleplay caracters , but i end up playing with my main char witch , i was lucky it was the first one i made back in may 2005.
somtimes people tell me , you should bring this or that skills
but i think that even the skill choises as to do with the kind of person you are , all professions can be defence or attack , or balenced.
i chose full atack , sometimes i try some defence skills , but just doesnt fit my person
about being a monk , only after i made one , i had the chance to know what it is
it really makes you feel big , and its easy to know why , you know how important you were to the team in that run
i was just so sure about all the moments i saved the whole team
and also , many times people would say , thanks for the good healing , etc
i respect monks , keep up the good work guys and girls
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Being that GW is a Role Playing Game, I would expect that atleast tries to lend itself to role playing.
IMO role playing isn't just talking like you are in character but it's also being a self sufficient character that interacts with other characters. That being said GW does just the simplest RPG elements and leaves out the ones that are too time consuming.
NPCs creating objects is not 'crafting' in my book. Once again GW takes out all the difficult or time consuming elements of crafting and just leaves you to get the materials.
As far as 'running' through GW, I belive that the devs have said that was intentional. While it is impressive that a character can run through a zone, the fact that they can drag others through because everyuone in thier party follows them through the zones irreguardless isn't impressive. Normally I would call that an exploit. The fact that it is part of normal gamplay is horrible. Playing through 'godmode' in halflife, is like you said a cheat....big difference.
Having said all this, if you like this sort of gameplay that's cool. But GW is not a good game for RP'ing.
No, that was *your* focus. I have been playing almost a month now and have never paid for a run anywhere. I prefer to play the game and experience it. The furthest I've gotten, thus far, is Yak's bend. My wife and I both love the game. If you play it and don't use spoilers like buying quest items from other players (get them yourselves, it's a LOT more fun) or paying for runs to new locations, or having some high level drag you around in a zone you have no business being in then you can really get immersed in the lore of the game. I even enjoy reading the various monuments strewn around the lands. And talking to the NPC's reveals a very well developed story behind the game.
Guildwars can be played as a purely PVP game, if you so desire. But it absolutely has a very top notch storyline to it if you allow yourself to take the time to experience it. Level 20 will happen on its own eventually. There's no need to race to it.
Now, what I will say is this: Once I've unlocked an area on one character I have no problem with getting a run to it with another so that I can access the content I've already explored a little more easily with the new character. After all, going through the same zone endless times does get a bit old. So while I refuse to use runs or what-have-you the first time through... if I get the same quests or need to get to the same place with another character I am not against bypassing the 'story' to 'catch up' to where I already am with another character.
Bottom line: Guild Wars has very strong RP elements. But you have to be willing to experience them. I was online last night playing and got into a really good roleplaying session with another player when we were doing group missions together. Whats funny is he's not normally a roleplayer but he said the cutscenes really draw him into the game. (And I have to agree... the cutscenes are very good, I always watch them).
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Sig image Pending
Still in: A couple Betas
Diablo is considered a RPG... I think that should put any agruement to rest. You played the role of a warror off to hunt down and kill diablo.
Same thing with FF7... one of the best RPGs ever... You don't talk to your TV and say "Tifa, Oh how I love your boobies." If you did don't admit to it here. Point remains you don't need to have a chat group or interact with other live plaeyers in order to Role-play.
Once again the lines have blurred
The above is role-playing
Saying in chat in WoW "Lay some of dat juju one me." is also role-playing.
Pretending to be a miner can be role-playing to. Heck pretending/acting to be anything you are not is role-playing.
Whether you playing as Cloud in FF7 (assuming the role of Cloud) or playing as Necro in GW (assuming the role of someone that likes to play with dead people, and cut themselves) it is role-playing. You are assuming a role. The role or the healer, the role of the tank... etc etc.
as far as the community, I find them to be great. often times more experienced players have given me advice on how to setup my skills to be more effective. i've had questions answered often in general chat, etc.
i think a lot of the bad mouthing about the GW community comes from people that don't know how to act themselves. act like a grownup in GW and you'll be treated like one.
No, that was *your* focus. I have been playing almost a month now and have never paid for a run anywhere. I prefer to play the game and experience it. The furthest I've gotten, thus far, is Yak's bend. My wife and I both love the game. If you play it and don't use spoilers like buying quest items from other players (get them yourselves, it's a LOT more fun) or paying for runs to new locations, or having some high level drag you around in a zone you have no business being in then you can really get immersed in the lore of the game. I even enjoy reading the various monuments strewn around the lands. And talking to the NPC's reveals a very well developed story behind the game.
+rep.
people who use walkthroughs for games really aren't playing or experiencing the game. therefore, they really can't comment on the game.
You cant do mining and fishing but you can have pet if you are Ranger.When you gonna get a pet you need a skill, and hunt at pets you want to have, like: Bears, Wolfes, Tigers and pets like that
I really do like games
i have something new to add
my guild joined a allience
we are a total 8 guilds now
i dont know yet how many people we are , but more then 500 for sure
if this is not social based , what is it ?
Guild - http://lightness.goodforum.net/
Blog - http://www.pierrecarlier.com/
In games that feature crafting as a full on profession, people will sit and craft and chat all the time. In GW what you are doing is all action, unless you are sitting in town doing nothing, or waiting at the Guild Hall for a PvP match to begin. Yes there are times for socialising, but it's not like other MMOs where there are people who are playing the game mostly to socialise and choose a class that facilitates that.
i get your point , but we do socialize , thats why there are guilds and alliences
we dont just make partys to explore or pvp , we chat , sometimes i log in and just chat for 5 hours , not even one time i go out
Guild - http://lightness.goodforum.net/
Blog - http://www.pierrecarlier.com/
Well, there is one rp thing, the runners, they run you to the next town and you pay them, also you can have a pet if you are a ranger. GW is more Questing and PvP.
But if you really want heavy rp, play EvE online. Yo can be a miner, a bounty hunter, a manufacturer, a trader, a transporter, or a pirate, and many other things.
Have a nice day...
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meh fishing if fun when you got a mass of 40+ peep there or your guild jsut messing around and then your pvp on and 20 horde assassins kill you, lol ^_^
btw, I RP alot. I RP that I really kill you all when you die ingame. Nice sense of accomplishment I get. Yes
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I am sure I have said this before BUT, I dont understand why you would pay your money and then get run all the way from Ascalon to Droks, when the wife and I played the game there was no running or runners, and we played the game and it took a few months but we finished the game and both enjoyed it so much we started a new set of characters and started again, It seems foreign to me to pay someone to remove 60% of the game content by running you through the game by means of short cuts.
I tell you a strange thing about RP, you must have noticed that some Warriors in the game take on a Warrior mentality the "I am indestuctable" sort of mentality, and monk get there own version which is "I am really important and misunderstood" I wonder if some people are drawn to some characters, they need to do a study on this, shame I already have my Phychology degree it would have made an interesting study for my final year
meh fishing if fun when you got a mass of 40+ peep there or your guild jsut messing around and then your pvp on and 20 horde assassins kill you, lol ^_^
in defence of fishing I have 300 in fishing and the Nat Pagle fishing rod from the quest and use fish attractors, this particular toon is also a Herb/Alchemist and I used to spend my time collecting herbs and fish and making Pots n food, I mean if you take the buff value for the Mightfish Steak's and the value of the Free action Pots from Oily's, it must be said that although the grind for Wow fishing to get to the 200+ point is ver very very tedious the benifits are good at the end, the Savory delights are a good laugh "O arrrr"
yes , anet said that people tend to chose a profession that match their own RL mentality
they did try to fill all kinds of people , and still continue to do it with the new professions.
ive made 3 roleplay caracters , but i end up playing with my main char witch , i was lucky it was the first one i made back in may 2005.
somtimes people tell me , you should bring this or that skills
but i think that even the skill choises as to do with the kind of person you are , all professions can be defence or attack , or balenced.
i chose full atack , sometimes i try some defence skills , but just doesnt fit my person
about being a monk , only after i made one , i had the chance to know what it is
it really makes you feel big , and its easy to know why , you know how important you were to the team in that run
i was just so sure about all the moments i saved the whole team
and also , many times people would say , thanks for the good healing , etc
i respect monks , keep up the good work guys and girls
Guild - http://lightness.goodforum.net/
Blog - http://www.pierrecarlier.com/