Eve I was wrong about you can you forgive me ?

M1sf1t · May 2006

Well I guess I just realized today that I actually like this game. After giving it a try a second time and having some basics under my feet I finally "get it". This game is fun and it's skill training system actually benifits a person who is busy living their lives. I can log on with a skill already trained from a previous night of sleeping and day of working or see it training near it's completion from a few days ago and still get things done like mining, running missions, interacting with other players etc... Took me a bit to understand the game mechanics of EvE but now I get it. I guess am gonna have to redo my review on this game and mark it up as a worth while MMORPG to play....especially if you work for a living or have a life. Though I suspect that once I get to 0.0 space it might make me want to play this game even more.

Azirophos · May 2006

Welcome to the game

fizzle322 · May 2006

Welcome to Eve.

Two things I recommend. Put alot of time and effort into finding a great corp. Make sure it does all the things YOU want to do : pvp mining complexes alliance mercenary piracy RP industry etc. If you get the right corp, the game opens up.

Second thing, consider level 4 the max of every skill, and don't go nuts with the learnings. Get basic learning to level 4, and train up everything you want to level 4.

Why? Because level 4 usually takes only like 2 days per skill. If you're talking about 20-30 skills, that means your character will be complete in about 2 months, you'll be out there competing like a pro, with a dirt cheap clone, no implants.

Anyway thats how I'm doing it and I'm very happy with the game right now.

Knightblast · May 2006

Another tip.

Don't mine when you are actually playing the game. Instead, take a hauler with full expanded cargohold and one mining laser II mounted, park it in very high sec space within range of a large veldpsar asteroid and leave it mining veldspar into its hold while you sleep. When you awake you will have a hold full of veldpsar, which is basically free money for newer players. It's a fairly common (and completely legal) trick for new players in their first month or two.

mindspat · May 2006

Originally posted by M1sf1t

Took me a bit to understand the game mechanics of EvE but now I get it. I guess am gonna have to redo my review on this game and mark it up as a worth while MMORPG to play....especially if you work for a living or have a life. Though I suspect that once I get to 0.0 space it might make me want to play this game even more.

You can have many of months of fun without going into 0.0 even though the game begins to shine once you _do_ start spending time in a 0.0 system.

Oh... and yes, the game _IS_ very supportive of a casual player who has a fulltime job, family and a life.

SonOfAGhost · May 2006

I'm going to disagree with Fizzle and say train the advanced learnings to 4, not just the basics. The low levels of the advanced learning skills are almost as fast as the low level basics. So for about an extra week each you'll get an extra 5 points per attribute and that will save you months of training time down the road.

belonna · May 2006

i agree with sonofaghost you have to get the avd learning skills up do the mem and intel ones to lvl 4 adv then do you learning adv to lvl 4 then do the others that way you leanr alot faster with all the others like iron will and things like that

M1sf1t · May 2006

Thanks for the feed back guys. I will be checking your suggestions out soon.

mindspat · May 2006

Originally posted by M1sf1t
Thanks for the feed back guys. I will be checking your suggestions out soon.

Training your skills up as they are suggesting will remove you from the game for far too long and you will _not_ feel effective while doing so. As well, your game play will potentially feel stale and boring if you try to get all your learning skills to lvl 5 then your advanced learning skills to lvl 4. Don't do it.

An alternative:

Get your basic learning skills to lvl 4; stagger the skills so you're not spending 4-5 weeks on just learning. Try to identify which attirbute you need for those "cool" skills and get the learning skills trained that directly increases that stat. Work on some skills that allow you to do what you want such as cruiser or possibly battlecruiser(an example). When your cool skills begin to take longer to learn then your "learning" skills is when you should focus on which attribute is the "primary" for the skills you're wanting to learn while gradually beefing up the secondary. This would be a good time to bump those learning skills up.

Once you get a "learning" skill to lvl 5 you should imediately get the advanced version and train it to lvl 3 before doing anything else and shouldn't take more then 36 hours.

If you maxed out learning skills then moved your advanced learning skills to lvl 4 you would spend about 3 1/2 months or longer doing nothing other then increase your attributes while not being able to use new items or new ships.

EDIT: why save 1 month in skills if it takes 3-4 months to do so and you wont see that "1 month" saved until after you've played for 14 months? Moderation is the key here.

SonOfAGhost · May 2006

I think mindspat has his numbers backwards. It doesn't take 3-4 months to save 1 month. It takes a bit over 1 month to save 3-4 months per year in perpetuity.

I'm barely 2 months in and almost done my learning skills. I probably could have been finished now but he is right about 1 thing. Do some 'fun' skills as well. When you get to the longer learnings let them run overnight and while you're at work/school and do some others to level 1 or 2 while you're on-line in the evening. Any non-learning skill that will take longer than your gaming session should wait.

Gallaid · May 2006

Welcome to the game. Make sure you join a corp your confortable with. also make sure you ask questions and check out the web site. and try to trade in one aspect of the game for alittle while then round it out becasue if you train all these differnt areas of skills at once you will be bad at one every thing

free2play · May 2006

Train all 7 of the Nav skills as well. No need to do the 3 that are related to the capital ships right away but you want MWD and all things related to capacitor and speed.

With good Navigation skills and some low slot mods, it's very possible to get a battleship up to 3km/s and if that 12 km run to the gate seems long, do it at 3km/s

GlacianNex · May 2006

If you are just starting out I would not go for more then a 3 or 4 on a skill unless you need it at 5 for the other skill. Do different things and see what you like, then decide what skills are priority to you. Dont spend time in the beginning to train up learning skills because rank 1 and 2 skills train fast enough. When you start training your rank 4 and 5 that is when you want to train your learning skills. Overall just enjoy the game and do what you want to do.

Lardarz · May 2006

Originally posted by M1sf1t
Took me a bit to understand the game mechanics of EvE but now I get it. I guess am gonna have to redo my review on this game and mark it up as a worth while MMORPG to play....especially if you work for a living or have a life. Though I suspect that once I get to 0.0 space it might make me want to play this game even more.

You have just done exactly what all the so called eve 'fanboi's' (that keep getting slagged off) have been telling people to do for months.
Glad you saw the light.
And welcome to Eve.

foobik · May 2006

dear god, do NOT consider lvl 4 to be the max you should go, it just doesnt work like that.

now im not going to go "OMFG OMFG NOOB LOL WTF ETC" and dictate to you how i think you should play the game, im just going to suggest why this is a bad idea. in the end it is still up to you.

EVE is very much a long-term game. 2 months in this game is a rather short space of time for those that have a considerable amount of skillpoints behind them. 2 months is 2 skills trained for me. the learning skills dictate how fast your other skills will train, if you train them for one month, to get the standard to lvl 4 and halt there, your skills later on will take a lot longer to train (say, cruiser 5 will take about 35 days). if you take that extra month and train all the standards to 5, and then all the advanced to 4, then when you come to cruiser 5, it will take about 20 days. there are plenty of skills like this, and skills which take even longer than cruiser 5. you will catch up very quickly, and then surpass those who dont do the advanced learning. i have two accounts, one new about 3 months old. the first 2 months is pent doing my learning, and now in the month ive had to freely train up whatever i desire, ive already surpassed the amount of skillpoints i wouldve accumulated by now if have trained them from the start without the learning skills.

it may be boring at the start, but its well worth it once its out of the way. recommended if you plan to play this game for more than 6 months. but, like i say. its up to you.

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