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Are all top down mmorpgs heavily instanced?

JakdstripperJakdstripper Member RarePosts: 2,410
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Im talking about PoE style games. Are they all so heavily instanced? Are there any with large, seamless open worlds? 

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  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 2,193
    Instanced and seamless are different things, though they can feel similar. EQ is not seamless, it has zoned, but it is not instanced. WoW is seamless but does have instanced dungeons that only your group can enter.  
  • AAAMEOWAAAMEOW Member RarePosts: 1,617
    People just call POE or Diablo ARPG(action role playing games).  People dont' call them top down mmorpg.

    If you are looking for isometric mmorpg, just go to google and search for it.  But usually the combat in isometric mmorpg isn't as good as ARPG.  
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    Regardless of what games have actually done, if your goal is to make an MMORPG with little to no instancing that is visible to players, an overhead view actually makes it a lot easier.  Making it so that players can't see very far puts a hard upper bound on how far away assets need to be loaded, and generally a much smaller upper bound than you'd get from a behind the player camera that can see far off into the distance.
  • KabulozoKabulozo Member RarePosts: 932
    edited November 2019
    PoE is not a MMORPG.

    An example of a top-down MMORPG with open world and massive open world pvp: Lineage.


    Cryomatrix
  • TwoTubesTwoTubes Member UncommonPosts: 328
    ChildoftheShadows said:
    Instanced and seamless are different things, though they can feel similar. EQ is not seamless, it has zoned, but it is not instanced. WoW is seamless but does have instanced dungeons that only your group can enter.  
    EQ has been instanced since LDoN came out in 2003...
  • AAAMEOWAAAMEOW Member RarePosts: 1,617
    Kabulozo said:
    PoE is not a MMORPG.

    An example of a top-down MMORPG with open world and massive open world pvp: Lineage.


    Does Lineage have an official english server?

    There are isometric MMORPG, but the combat don't necessary resemble that in ARPG.  Lost ark combat is probably more similar to POE.  But I don't think there is an official english server yet.
  • KabulozoKabulozo Member RarePosts: 932
    AAAMEOW said:
    Kabulozo said:
    PoE is not a MMORPG.

    An example of a top-down MMORPG with open world and massive open world pvp: Lineage.


    Does Lineage have an official english server?

    There are isometric MMORPG, but the combat don't necessary resemble that in ARPG.  Lost ark combat is probably more similar to POE.  But I don't think there is an official english server yet.
    Only in Korea, Japan, China, Taiwan. Even the best private servers filled with hundreds of players are Korean.
  • madazzmadazz Member RarePosts: 2,115
    Weird how you'd bring up PoE when trying to talk about MMO's. OP states all top down mmo games are heavily instanced yet references a game thats not an MMO at all.

    You don't say "doom style games" when talking about planetside 2 do you?
  • AAAMEOWAAAMEOW Member RarePosts: 1,617
    madazz said:
    Weird how you'd bring up PoE when trying to talk about MMO's. OP states all top down mmo games are heavily instanced yet references a game thats not an MMO at all.

    You don't say "doom style games" when talking about planetside 2 do you?
    I thought he is confused about PoE being an MMORPG.

    Legend of aria don't have instance but the world is quite small.
  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,400
    DMKano said:
    Im talking about PoE style games. Are they all so heavily instanced? Are there any with large, seamless open worlds? 
    There are many korean mmo-arpg hybrids that have a large shared world map but all the dungeons are instanced.

    Not all of them have seamless shared world maps but the world map is not instanced so you see 100s of players roaming the world map.

    Devilian, ELOA, guardians of ember, mu legends, lost ark to name a few

    Upcoming Diablo 4 is similar 
    I am interested in a 3/4th view MMO with a large open world that's seemless but can have instanced dungeons and Raids. No small scale multi-player world. I want 100s of players in the world map at once. 

    Philosophy of MMO Game Design

  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,400
    AAAMEOW said:
    madazz said:
    Weird how you'd bring up PoE when trying to talk about MMO's. OP states all top down mmo games are heavily instanced yet references a game thats not an MMO at all.

    You don't say "doom style games" when talking about planetside 2 do you?
    I thought he is confused about PoE being an MMORPG.

    Legend of aria don't have instance but the world is quite small.
    Think the OP is using PoE as a example of a 3/4th view video game that isn't OG Zelda top down, but more like Diablo point of view or 3/4th view in Animation art calls it. 

    Philosophy of MMO Game Design

  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,400
    Kabulozo said:
    PoE is not a MMORPG.

    An example of a top-down MMORPG with open world and massive open world pvp: Lineage.


    what the hell. is this on PC?

    Philosophy of MMO Game Design

  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,779
    MMOExposed said:
    Kabulozo said:
    PoE is not a MMORPG.

    An example of a top-down MMORPG with open world and massive open world pvp: Lineage.


    what the hell. is this on PC?
    Yes. It's the first Lineage game, it came out in 1998. 

    It had an English server but unfortunately they closed it back like 8 years ago. 
  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,400
    DMKano said:
    MMOExposed said:
    DMKano said:
    Im talking about PoE style games. Are they all so heavily instanced? Are there any with large, seamless open worlds? 
    There are many korean mmo-arpg hybrids that have a large shared world map but all the dungeons are instanced.

    Not all of them have seamless shared world maps but the world map is not instanced so you see 100s of players roaming the world map.

    Devilian, ELOA, guardians of ember, mu legends, lost ark to name a few

    Upcoming Diablo 4 is similar 
    I am interested in a 3/4th view MMO with a large open world that's seemless but can have instanced dungeons and Raids. No small scale multi-player world. I want 100s of players in the world map at once. 


    All the games I mentioned can have 100s of players in open world maps.

    they have instanced dungeons and raids.

    The only feature missing is seamless - most have zones that load but they are not instanced
    iam looking at videos on these. you sure these have 100s of players in the same game world in the same way as Runescape? Some of them seem Diablo 3 like multiplayer coop maps gameplay. 

    Philosophy of MMO Game Design

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