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Adult only post - Good game terrible community
Rekindle
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The problem with WoW is its a victim of its own success.
The problems with this game comes from its ease and accessibility. Decent players make it into the fray but they seem to be out numbered by tards, halfwits and kiddies (the last category being the majority). I find this game is best played with all chat windows minimized or closed off so you can ignore the idiots and l33t crap speak. I realize this would be totally impossible, but I wish there was some way to wave a big magic wand and make a world just for the more mature grownups of this game. If I hear "soz" or "oh snap" one more time I'm gonna start coding a WoW emulator and a save game button.
Yes, you get to 60 fast, but not the prescribed 2 weeks some maintain (unless your life is your game). The world is big, there are a lot of quests, I like how they handled instances. However, in comparison to older games from days gone by.....
This game is the cheap 99cent Cola of MMORPG games. Its easy, its bubbly but goes flat fast. Unfortunately, this game is getting the rep of being the ghetto of MMORPG games. WoW is the giant which others will try and topple (even though nothing out there right now will touch it).....but one day this game will come crashing down and it will be the 14 year old ankle biting punks that are pulling on the ropes.
Blame the parents for letting them use the credit card to sign up.
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I believe mmogs should include lots of meaningful player interaction, not just some PvP gankfest like a lot of games have turned out to be. PvP is nice, but lets have something rewarding and fun for the peeps that actually like working together and building a greater good for the community and game. I don't see WoW really having any aspects like that, and is essentially a solo game unless you want to run w/ tards or elite guilds for uber loot ><
Bah, the watered down gamplay and mechanics makes in one of the most popular games, but not the game for this little black duck
Drachonis, you are a perfect example of why the WoW community sucks.
"I don't see WoW really having any aspects like that, and is essentially a solo game unless you want to run w/ tards or elite guilds for uber loot."
And this is what the WoW community is about. Groups of player types hating other groups of player types. I play this game primarily because of the friends I've made and the guild I'm part of. My guild is 18+, so there are no children. There are plenty of working professionals and people with families. We have a great time playing together. WoW may not be the best MMORPG in terms of game mechanics and immersion, but it's strength does lie in the number of people who play it. Sure, with a bigger population comes more chances of running into people you may not like, but I think if you bothered to dig a little deeper, you might find tons of quality players. Not everyone is a n00blet, ganking, gold farming tard like you suggest....
Lets Eat It!
But, I don't care about that... niether does alot of people, I actualy enjoy the game alot more guildless and just finding my own groups to whatever. Most guilds are TS or VENT people now. SO when I use the txt talk I hardly get responses and then there is the people that go AFK when you try to form a group.
Hey wanna group for DM?
Ten minutes later..
Hey wanna group for DM?
Twenty minutes later..
LFM PRIEST!
30 minutes later
Ok finally got a group started lets go..
Sorry I gotta go.. priest leaves..
LFM PRIEST!!!
30 minutes later
Ok lets go
Reach instance, make it in and then
Few minutes of good instancing..
blue drops.. NO ONE GREED ALL PASS ON BLUES FOR DE! ONLY NEED IF YOU WILL EQUIP IT!!!
pally greeds on everything while party passes.. WTF!?!?
ZOMG!! LEEERRROOOOYYY!!!WTF?!!?! WHY"D YOU PULL? AGGGHHHH!!!
Whew.. made it through pull... wait for mana..
Everyone jump here and HUNTER DISMISS PET!
.jump...jump...jump.. OMGWTF U IDIOT HUNTER!!! I TOLD YOU TO DISMISS PET!!
pet pulls hell mob on group all die and wipe..ugh...I quit.. *hearths*
Yeah, the kids problem is a big deal I guess.
Professor Hubert Farnsworth - That question is less stupid but, you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.
I agree, and yet I don't. See, people make a lot of sweeping generalizations about the younger crowd. We aren't all aderol junkies. I myself am only 16 years of age.
But, I can agree that MOST of them are possibly the most retarded people I've ever seen. Everytime I say something remotely intellegent in general chat, the response is always the same, either they just don't get it, or they say something like "lol, I'm all done with school for the day, so stfu". Something like that angers me, yes. But, this game also has so much to offer, that I can hardly ignore it.
The fact of the matter is, it's just a simplisticly fun, addictive, and charismatic game. And because it has the Blizzard label on it, all the Bnet idiots come in droves for their next fix of Blizzard gaming. And that's just what you get. So yes, I can also agree that WoW is a victim of it's label, but there is also a lot more to it.
The game early on was centered around an idea of a "realm first" attitude, because you just couldn't get enough people in one guild together to take the other teams relics. So you had to work together in an intra-guild fashing (alliances). Roleplayers, Crafters, PvE'ers, and PvP'ers all did thier own thing. Except when it came to RvR, everyone had to work together or you lost your relics.
Sometimes you would have players just drop money on you if they saw you in rags (and generally you only got it if you didnt beg for it). Or they would make you a weapon to help you level faster. Some players knew if they helped their side level faster they would have better success in RvR.
But WoW is missing that key ingredient, it is more likely to see guilds in WoW competing with their own faction. Because you can do everything in your own clique and you don't need outsiders.
Since you don't need the rest of your faction you can grief them as much as you want, since they can't kill you in PvP, and customer service is almost non-existant.
WoW needs something to get the general community out of its "me first (and only)" attitude. But I don't think it will happen, it's a PvE game built for guild raiding.
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People don't respect the Roleplay tag on a server anymore, they think that means they can roleplay if they want too or they take your advice and just go there for the community. I am on a roleplay server and there is very very very little roleplay going on.
HOWEVER I can say the same thing for the EQ 2 PvP roleplay server, no roleplay there either, it is just an alternative to a very heavy primary standard PvP server.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
I am on a roleplay server and there is very very very little roleplay going on.
There is alot of roleplaying going on, maybe not always worldRP. You just need to look in the right places to find it. *grins*
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Sadly, i havent tryed a RP server, but I read it few times now that RP is there only in theory. As for PVP servers, the funnyest thing happened one time, I was playing my alt, lvl 14 at the time, LFG-ing for Wailing Caverns, we needed 1 more and a guy wants to come but he's to low lvl, I say to him, no thnx, no can do, and his answer: Haha, I'm better then you, you suck!!
I agree that comunity is annoying at best, but there is way too many servers in WoW to make such genaralisations. I have played on European Aggamaggan server, it's almost exclusivly Spanish server and and that one has a reputation of beeing the worst server in Europe, haha. But I also played on other servers and situation was litle better. It hurts immersion very much, I agree, but looking for immersion in WoW is a loosing battle to begin with.
It's a game, it's big and has all sorts of people. Looking for immersion, I have left WoW and still looking for something with a different playing style. Curently playing EVE, I love the whole everybody on the same server idea.
As much as WoW's community get's bashed on a daily basis, it's not the community that drowe me away, it was the endgame and how empty Azeroth get's when you hit lvl60. I love good world PVP and a chalenge in beating a fellow lvl 60, but at lvl60 there is so litle to do if you don't spend your time waiting for BG's or raiding a same dungeon with your guild for the 46th time. I didn't like raids because you are just 1 of 20-40 people, not making any real difference, your actions are restricted to a scripted mob and that's it, and another thing, hours and hours and hours that are required to get that item, sorry, but that's just boring for me, so for those who like it, I guess its great, but I realy wish that there was something more to it.
Now, I know all of this was said oh-so many times, but why not, there is all this talk about 5million players, I find it only fair that some of those 5 million people get to say that those numbers are not everything there is to a game.
I'm not playing anymore, but it did the trick, it got me hooked on MMOG's, now I spend much time here reading about upcoming games, hoping to see somrthing promissing, with decent PVP, meaningfull crafting system, litle harder then WoW (and by that I don't mean more time consuming) and a bigger level of immersion altogether.
That defeats the point of a Roleplay SERVER over a regular server.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
-Afrit
I am one of those parents who have preteens that play WoW. For their protection, I heavily monitor and restrict what my children can say, and observe who they talk to when playing the game. I have had players make sexual remarks at them or use abusive language, and I teach them to simply /ignore it, avoid it, or stand up for themselves where appropriate. I never allow them to say anything remotely offensive to anyone, and uphold the "Golden Rule."
I have looked at other MMORPGs but the same issues tend to arise. Many of these abusive gaming youth are the product of neglect and were not shown responsible parenting; they grow up to spread hate and irresponsible behavior. The only thing you can do is make sure you don't add to the flames or aggravate what is already a problem.
You have to just accept that the world isn't ideal, and nip the problems in the bud where you can. You are right - it starts with the parenting and I hope I'm not going to mess that up
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About the age of players in the game well, sometimes it is best if we stand back and reflect what is the age trget group Blizzard has labeled the game with?
12+
and also considering that they did get oficial aproval for this only proves that the content in game is designed for 12 year olds.
So who is actually the one who shouldn't be playing this game? Is it the young ones who are by nature, impatient, fast, egoistical, uncaring and generaly have all these traits many adults forget that they also had them when they were teens or is it the adults who bring in a game all the RL ethics and "proper" behaviour codes, the same ones teens by nature revolt against?
I like this game, unfortunatley i am not 12 any more, but beeing 36 if i don't like playing with teens i shouldn't be doing it.
As for the RP state of the RP servers, well this is nothing but a pointless tilte on the serveres which means nothing, i could imagine an expanded reputation system on the RP servers one which would not divide pplayers into horde-alliance but one which would unite Druids of the Cenarion beeing Tauren or NE's it would not matter, hell even if other classes would be able to become exalted with cenarion i would allow them in this special community, were they could group together and speak a common language, ofcourse i would make it extremely hard for other classes exept druids to mage it.
I would open up the Scarlet reputation, make one of their big sites a main city were players could use as a town, i would make the all non human races at least neutral with them exept undead which they would be the enemy and ofcourse KoS by them.
The goblins could also act as a third kind of faction, one which players especially rogues could take great advantage of it.
On an RP server i would use the reputation system to create other kind of communities, friends and foes, in an enviroment were more mature players would find joy in giving an identity to their characters and were just beeing as leet as posible wouldnt benefit you much and would in the end be pointless.
Pitty Blizzard decided not to really design diferent rulesets for its difrent servers.