It's so sad that there's so much negativity towards people who are actually doing something worthwhile in the gaming world. We get the same games every year and we throw our cash away time after time, not to mention the times we get ripped off in marketing schemes and tricks they use. And apart from getting ripped off occasionally that's not necessarily a bad thing, we'll have some fun then we move on to the next title. But it's always the same thing. Rarely do we get something really special or unique games.
These guys are taking it to the next level. It's simply a fact. They're doing things other game designers probably would have loved to do but just simply couldn't. It just doesn't exist in other games. And you can even see it in today's alpha. Most of the fundamentals that sets this game apart are already in.
I'm not sure about the money thing, I'm just saying this game is very ambitious and needed in our time.
It's really strange people don't at least like give it the benefit of the doubt, sit back and hope it turns out well. Cause in the end we all win.
That sort of people don't care about the game, they just care about the money it has funded (what attracts all this attention in the first place) and its dev time, including some controversies, for those, you usually don't hear them say a word about the game, it's not about the game at all. It's cool to hate SC.
But many people recognize the potential, the progress and the need for a game like this on the MMO genre, you won't really find those here because of the amount of SC drama pushed on this forum has polarized things too much and reasonable discussions are almost impossible (several posts on this thread show it).
How can you not care about the game though is what I don't understand. lol We're all gamers looking for the next best thing. It's the reason people care enough to voice that negativity in the first place. I just gave it a serious look last free fly which was a few weeks ago. I waited so long cause I stopped caring about prereleases a long time ago I think I'm not the only one. I never had any strong opinions about the game before I took a look at it.
Dear @tomek2626, you would recognize that they are delivering more than last year... if only you paid attention to current CitizenCon announces with features coming not in 3 years but in the next coming months, V4 tech update to Microtech + all planets/moons update, Xenolinguistic live demonstration, new Theatre of War mode (in short a mode combining, Arena commander and Star marine)...
What's the point of listing stuff that's not in-game in response to tomek2626's complaint about the game being unfinished?
This dude has 255 comments on this site,all defending SC. He even has a white knight as his avatar. He's either getting paid to defend the game on this website, or has drank so much of the Roberts Kool Aid, he posts in constant defence of the game so as to not have to admit he has been conned.
It's so sad that there's so much negativity towards people who are actually doing something worthwhile in the gaming world. We get the same games every year and we throw our cash away time after time, not to mention the times we get ripped off in marketing schemes and tricks they use. And apart from getting ripped off occasionally that's not necessarily a bad thing, we'll have some fun then we move on to the next title. But it's always the same thing. Rarely do we get something really special or unique games.
These guys are taking it to the next level. It's simply a fact. They're doing things other game designers probably would have loved to do but just simply couldn't. It just doesn't exist in other games. And you can even see it in today's alpha. Most of the fundamentals that sets this game apart are already in.
I'm not sure about the money thing, I'm just saying this game is very ambitious and needed in our time.
It's really strange people don't at least like give it the benefit of the doubt, sit back and hope it turns out well. Cause in the end we all win.
It's so sad that there's so much negativity towards people who are actually doing something worthwhile in the gaming world. We get the same games every year and we throw our cash away time after time, not to mention the times we get ripped off in marketing schemes and tricks they use. And apart from getting ripped off occasionally that's not necessarily a bad thing, we'll have some fun then we move on to the next title. But it's always the same thing. Rarely do we get something really special or unique games.
These guys are taking it to the next level. It's simply a fact. They're doing things other game designers probably would have loved to do but just simply couldn't. It just doesn't exist in other games. And you can even see it in today's alpha. Most of the fundamentals that sets this game apart are already in.
I'm not sure about the money thing, I'm just saying this game is very ambitious and needed in our time.
It's really strange people don't at least like give it the benefit of the doubt, sit back and hope it turns out well. Cause in the end we all win.
That sort of people don't care about the game, they just care about the money it has funded (what attracts all this attention in the first place) and its dev time, including some controversies, for those, you usually don't hear them say a word about the game, it's not about the game at all. It's cool to hate SC.
But many people recognize the potential, the progress and the need for a game like this on the MMO genre, you won't really find those here because of the amount of SC drama pushed on this forum has polarized things too much and reasonable discussions are almost impossible (several posts on this thread show it).
How can you not care about the game though is what I don't understand. lol We're all gamers looking for the next best thing. It's the reason people care enough to voice that negativity in the first place. I just gave it a serious look last free fly which was a few weeks ago. I waited so long cause I stopped caring about prereleases a long time ago I think I'm not the only one. I never had any strong opinions about the game before I took a look at it.
It's an internet gaming site, people love drama about games they don't play or want to play, crowdfunded games are a hot spot as far that goes. I'd say most people like you are more lurkers not really engaged in the actual discussion.
It's why the "it's a scam ree" type of comment every time, even on a topic where the game opens up for anyone to go there and play what is released and make their own conclusions (something almost no titles in dev where you pay to gain access does), whelp...
I will pick this up on steam sale for $9.99 in about 10 years, i don't have the words to express how much of a shit stain scam this is. KS in 2012, 7 years after kickstarter and 300M cash they have a couple planets and free fly by events to see their tech demo. Forbes is a trusted source, claimed as of a couple years ago they had something like 14M cash left in the bank, spent most of their funds and zero to show for it. Shame on you guys supporting this scam, a sad time period to be a mmo gamer. Wake the hell up and stop supporting these scams.
But most of the money is gone, and the game is still far from finished. At the end of 2017, for example, Roberts was down to just $14 million in the bank. He has since raised more money. Those 100 star systems? He has not completed a single one. So far he has two mostly finished planets, nine moons and an asteroid.
...and some caves with alien poop
Much ambitious. How would you rate this "scope" from 1 to 10?
Who even wants to play a game, where other players have all bought their ships with real life currency. And a lot of it. I say ALL because I sincerely doubt anyone will play this game other than the backers. Also, why do backers even want to play a game like that? Lol.
Seriously, you are going to sign into the game and be spammed with loot that you wont even know what to do with. The entire purpose of the game is lost due to the fact that anything and everything was already given away for real currency.
Have fun playing a game by yourself backers! While you are all flying around the same reward ships, wondering where everything went so wrong.
Who even wants to play a game, where other players have all bought their ships with real life currency. And a lot of it. I say ALL because I sincerely doubt anyone will play this game other than the backers. Also, why do backers even want to play a game like that? Lol.
Seriously, you are going to sign into the game and be spammed with loot that you wont even know what to do with. The entire purpose of the game is lost due to the fact that anything and everything was already given away for real currency.
Have fun playing a game by yourself backers! While you are all flying around the same reward ships, wondering where everything went so wrong.
To be fair, you won't be by yourself. There will be 49 other people to play with on your shard.
Who even wants to play a game, where other players have all bought their ships with real life currency. And a lot of it. I say ALL because I sincerely doubt anyone will play this game other than the backers. Also, why do backers even want to play a game like that? Lol.
Seriously, you are going to sign into the game and be spammed with loot that you wont even know what to do with. The entire purpose of the game is lost due to the fact that anything and everything was already given away for real currency.
Have fun playing a game by yourself backers! While you are all flying around the same reward ships, wondering where everything went so wrong.
To be fair, you won't be by yourself. There will be 49 other people to play with on your shard.
If this game was on Steam it would get the same treatment Infinity: Battlescape is getting with the threads about dead severs.
How long has joe blow been here saying "the game WILL deliver this and WILL deliver this!" How long are you going to wait until you realize you have been scammed?
The game will deliver, the game has been delivering, major update every 3 months, you may pretend nothing happens and people play nothing, that's up to you but it ain't the reality.
People on this site will preach SC is a scam even after it is released, it's a lifestyle.
Outside of uploading a mind to the cloud - I don't believe people currently active on this site will be able to live long enough to see SC released. And I bet substantial part of the backers are already dead considering SC is in development for about 1/10 of human life span.
Outside of uploading a mind to the cloud - I don't believe people currently active on this site will be able to live long enough to see SC released. And I bet substantial part of the backers are already dead considering SC is in development for about 1/10 of human life span.
You just don't understand how Fountain of Youth Development works, like true believers do...
For those that own it already, I hope they get enjoyment out of SC. For those trying it out when it is free to play I hope it works & they enjoy it too. I have tried it once before during one of these free to play mini events & it was just too buggy for my liking. I might try it again at a later date during a free to play mini event if I'm so inclined, but I won't be buying this game till after it has released for awhile. Unfortunately I'm that way with most games nowadays. Gaming companies nowadays seem to have no problem releasing a game based off of their previous reputation &/or the game's hype & squander that trust for short term money, & this gaming company does seem to have a couple of questionable financial maneuvers. So I still hope for the best for SC, it's been a long incubation, but I want a game of quality delivered first before you get my money.
It's so sad that there's so much negativity towards people who are actually doing something worthwhile in the gaming world. We get the same games every year and we throw our cash away time after time, not to mention the times we get ripped off in marketing schemes and tricks they use. And apart from getting ripped off occasionally that's not necessarily a bad thing, we'll have some fun then we move on to the next title. But it's always the same thing. Rarely do we get something really special or unique games.
These guys are taking it to the next level. It's simply a fact. They're doing things other game designers probably would have loved to do but just simply couldn't. It just doesn't exist in other games. And you can even see it in today's alpha. Most of the fundamentals that sets this game apart are already in.
I'm not sure about the money thing, I'm just saying this game is very ambitious and needed in our time.
It's really strange people don't at least like give it the benefit of the doubt, sit back and hope it turns out well. Cause in the end we all win.
... But many people recognize the potential
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Yes, many, at least 300M dolars invested on the potential ...
How long has joe blow been here saying "the game WILL deliver this and WILL deliver this!" How long are you going to wait until you realize you have been scammed?
The game will deliver, the game has been delivering, major update every 3 months, you may pretend nothing happens and people play nothing, that's up to you but it ain't the reality.
People on this site will preach SC is a scam even after it is released, it's a lifestyle.
Major update my fucking ass.
Patches are just anaemic crap, look at 3.8 for a perfect example of CIG's delivery. They cut out all the good stuff and we're left with a pile of fluff. How can anyone objectively call that "major"?
People on this site will preach SC is a success even after 20 years of being an alpha, it's a delusion.
How long has joe blow been here saying "the game WILL deliver this and WILL deliver this!" How long are you going to wait until you realize you have been scammed?
The game will deliver, the game has been delivering, major update every 3 months, you may pretend nothing happens and people play nothing, that's up to you but it ain't the reality.
People on this site will preach SC is a scam even after it is released, it's a lifestyle.
Outside of uploading a mind to the cloud - I don't believe people currently active on this site will be able to live long enough to see SC released. And I bet substantial part of the backers are already dead considering SC is in development for about 1/10 of human life span.
Considering the pools and some data people gathered as far Backer age goes, 94%~ of backer base is under 40, more than half around 20-35.
So I'd say we'll be fine unless on this forum people are much older, what would remind me of that "angry old man yelling at cloud (empirium games)".
It's so sad that there's so much negativity towards people who are actually doing something worthwhile in the gaming world. We get the same games every year and we throw our cash away time after time, not to mention the times we get ripped off in marketing schemes and tricks they use. And apart from getting ripped off occasionally that's not necessarily a bad thing, we'll have some fun then we move on to the next title. But it's always the same thing. Rarely do we get something really special or unique games.
These guys are taking it to the next level. It's simply a fact. They're doing things other game designers probably would have loved to do but just simply couldn't. It just doesn't exist in other games. And you can even see it in today's alpha. Most of the fundamentals that sets this game apart are already in.
I'm not sure about the money thing, I'm just saying this game is very ambitious and needed in our time.
It's really strange people don't at least like give it the benefit of the doubt, sit back and hope it turns out well. Cause in the end we all win.
I mean, published criticism of this endeavor hasn't exactly fallen fresh out of the sky since May; I'm sure some here will remember this 4-year-old gem from Wired:
"The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar Authored 139 missions in VendettaOnline and 6 tracks in Distance
Dear @tomek2626, you would recognize that they are delivering more than last year... if only you paid attention to current CitizenCon announces with features coming not in 3 years but in the next coming months, V4 tech update to Microtech + all planets/moons update, Xenolinguistic live demonstration, new Theatre of War mode (in short a mode combining, Arena commander and Star marine)...
But feel free to buy Anthem.. or wait until EA reworked it from ground as it tooks a year to recognize they should have not released it at all... but still sold it at 60$ (40% more than SC) because they are used to slap gamer community left and right since more than a decade without consequences.
Meanwhile a unique project heading to beta in 4 quarters, offering to anyone 2 full weeks of free access to check by themselves how it is progressing is called scam by some uneducated individual about game development and finance.
Comment section always gathered the best of internet, this is confirmed:)
Dude someone like @tomek2626 is on auto response. Its like trying to teach your puppy how to play chess at this point. Allot of people on this site don't do any research on anything after they have made their decision up which is usually based on somone's elses opinion ironically. For anyone though who is actually paying attention the last year of development on this game has been phenomenal. All the systems they have been working on for the last 5 years are coming together and making their way to the live server. Is getting really hard not to try it but it will be worth the wait when everything comes together they are literally creating a solar system worth for content to explore. Its insane.
Dear @tomek2626, you would recognize that they are delivering more than last year... if only you paid attention to current CitizenCon announces with features coming not in 3 years but in the next coming months, V4 tech update to Microtech + all planets/moons update, Xenolinguistic live demonstration, new Theatre of War mode (in short a mode combining, Arena commander and Star marine)...
But feel free to buy Anthem.. or wait until EA reworked it from ground as it tooks a year to recognize they should have not released it at all... but still sold it at 60$ (40% more than SC) because they are used to slap gamer community left and right since more than a decade without consequences.
Meanwhile a unique project heading to beta in 4 quarters, offering to anyone 2 full weeks of free access to check by themselves how it is progressing is called scam by some uneducated individual about game development and finance.
Comment section always gathered the best of internet, this is confirmed:)
Dude someone like @tomek2626 is on auto response. Its like trying to teach your puppy how to play chess at this point. Allot of people on this site don't do any research on anything after they have made their decision up which is usually based on somone's elses opinion ironically. For anyone though who is actually paying attention the last year of development on this game has been phenomenal. All the systems they have been working on for the last 5 years are coming together and making their way to the live server. Is getting really hard not to try it but it will be worth the wait when everything comes together they are literally creating a solar system worth for content to explore. Its insane.
I heard all of this when the holy patch 3.0 was about to come, ended up being nothing. Same will happen now i bet, Hype hype hype then.. more delays.
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For those that own it already, I hope they get enjoyment out of SC.
Just to be clear, nobody owns anything right now. You cannot buy the game. You can donate money to the development, but they are careful to point out that there is no guarantee of a game.
It's so sad that there's so much negativity towards people who are actually doing something worthwhile in the gaming world. We get the same games every year and we throw our cash away time after time, not to mention the times we get ripped off in marketing schemes and tricks they use. And apart from getting ripped off occasionally that's not necessarily a bad thing, we'll have some fun then we move on to the next title. But it's always the same thing. Rarely do we get something really special or unique games.
These guys are taking it to the next level. It's simply a fact. They're doing things other game designers probably would have loved to do but just simply couldn't. It just doesn't exist in other games. And you can even see it in today's alpha. Most of the fundamentals that sets this game apart are already in.
I'm not sure about the money thing, I'm just saying this game is very ambitious and needed in our time.
It's really strange people don't at least like give it the benefit of the doubt, sit back and hope it turns out well. Cause in the end we all win.
That sort of people don't care about the game, they just care about the money it has funded (what attracts all this attention in the first place) and its dev time, including some controversies, for those, you usually don't hear them say a word about the game, it's not about the game at all. It's cool to hate SC these days.
But many people recognize the potential, the progress and the need for a game like this on the MMO genre, you won't really find those here because of the amount of SC drama pushed on this forum has polarized things too much and reasonable discussions are almost impossible with the hyperbole (several posts on this thread show it).
It's one thing to claim people on this forum are just blind bashers of the game, but then you read about the former employees of the company and what they have to say about wasted funds and the micromanaging of EVERYTHING by Roberts. After all these years and the broken promises, the people who keep on white knighting and pouring money into the project are just as bad as the blind haters.
You either hate the game for the scam it has been. or you are one of those people who defend this turd with every fiber of their being. All SC discussions end up like this. Personally, i refunded when I could, took three weeks of back and forth email, but I got my money back. I also tried to give it a second shot with the last "free fly" weekend they did. The game was just as buggy this time around as it was when I refunded. But hey, it's all about peoples opinions, i guess if they are having fun playing this and throwing money at concept ships, who am I to tell them not to?
Dear @tomek2626, you would recognize that they are delivering more than last year... if only you paid attention to current CitizenCon announces with features coming not in 3 years but in the next coming months, V4 tech update to Microtech + all planets/moons update, Xenolinguistic live demonstration, new Theatre of War mode (in short a mode combining, Arena commander and Star marine)...
What's the point of listing stuff that's not in-game in response to tomek2626's complaint about the game being unfinished?
This dude has 255 comments on this site,all defending SC. He even has a white knight as his avatar. He's either getting paid to defend the game on this website, or has drank so much of the Roberts Kool Aid, he posts in constant defence of the game so as to not have to admit he has been conned.
I like SC and i dont care what moaners are saying
Ive bought it for ~35.-€ 5 years ago and subscribed for 10.-€ couple months until now and i have my own eyes to see what they do, no matter what some of you may say^^
Im a Linux gamer and the Linux Users Group @CIG is close to 1k members.
That is, because we keep the game going under wine and its working like a charm.
Due to that, we have some insight into the games tech and changes to the games core, but from a gamers perspective its just not done yet.
I can understand, that the normal gamers are upset about the game is not done yet, but thats reality, at least someone has the balls to try out, what no other developers tried out yet.
We want the new "new", or not ?
I mean, how can we have new technologies if nobody is doing them ?!
Here we have a company doing them and the whole gaming world will benefit from ideas and technics researched by RSI.
From a customers point of view, i could send a couple companies to hell, but the StarCitizen support was always superb, same level like the EvE-Support.
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We're all gamers looking for the next best thing. It's the reason people care enough to voice that negativity in the first place.
I just gave it a serious look last free fly which was a few weeks ago. I waited so long cause I stopped caring about prereleases a long time ago I think I'm not the only one.
I never had any strong opinions about the game before I took a look at it.
It's why the "it's a scam ree" type of comment every time, even on a topic where the game opens up for anyone to go there and play what is released and make their own conclusions (something almost no titles in dev where you pay to gain access does), whelp...
Seriously, you are going to sign into the game and be spammed with loot that you wont even know what to do with. The entire purpose of the game is lost due to the fact that anything and everything was already given away for real currency.
Have fun playing a game by yourself backers! While you are all flying around the same reward ships, wondering where everything went so wrong.
Thank you for your time!
Yes, many, at least 300M dolars invested on the potential ...
mmorpg junkie since 1999
Patches are just anaemic crap, look at 3.8 for a perfect example of CIG's delivery. They cut out all the good stuff and we're left with a pile of fluff. How can anyone objectively call that "major"?
People on this site will preach SC is a success even after 20 years of being an alpha, it's a delusion.
So I'd say we'll be fine unless on this forum people are much older, what would remind me of that "angry old man yelling at cloud (empirium games)".
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/2015/03/fans-dropped-77m-guys-buggy-half-built-game/amp
Ye have been warned.
"The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
Authored 139 missions in Vendetta Online and 6 tracks in Distance
You can't. Nobody can buy any of these cars yet.
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Same will happen now i bet, Hype hype hype then.. more delays.
Basically clicking away text windows ruins every MMO, try to have fun instead of rushing things. Without story and lore all there is left is a bunch of mechanics.
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tl;dr: Both sides are equally crazy.
The guy is a nutcase
..Cake..
Ive bought it for ~35.-€ 5 years ago and subscribed for 10.-€ couple months until now and i have my own eyes to see what they do, no matter what some of you may say^^
Im a Linux gamer and the Linux Users Group @CIG is close to 1k members.
That is, because we keep the game going under wine and its working like a charm.
Due to that, we have some insight into the games tech and changes to the games core, but from a gamers perspective its just not done yet.
I can understand, that the normal gamers are upset about the game is not done yet, but thats reality, at least someone has the balls to try out, what no other developers tried out yet.
We want the new "new", or not ?
I mean, how can we have new technologies if nobody is doing them ?!
Here we have a company doing them and the whole gaming world will benefit from ideas and technics researched by RSI.
From a customers point of view, i could send a couple companies to hell, but the StarCitizen support was always superb, same level like the EvE-Support.
Cya in the verse, to kill ya all