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Crowfall beta roll out plans

DragnelusDragnelus Member EpicPosts: 3,503

Beta is the process where we start testing our system with larger numbers of players. And where will we get those players?  Well, we’ll start inviting the people who have registered at crowfall.com, of course! In addition to our sixty-three thousand backers (my favorite people in the world!), we have amassed more than three hundred thousand registrants (people who I am hoping might become my favorite people, once we launch).

When beta begins, we’ll start to invite these folks to play, in waves.  Those waves will likely start in the hundreds, then jump into the thousands and eventually we’ll be inviting in waves of 10k+ people at a time. Think of it like filling a vase with water: pour in too much, too quickly, and it might shatter. Start small, adding more over time, and you can find and fix the leaks until you eventually reach max capacity.

If you are reading this blog and want to play the beta: 

  • ALL backers will have access to it as soon as it hits TEST,

  • REGISTERED non-backers will be invited in waves,

  • NON-REGISTERED folks need to register at crowfall.com (and if you get impatient waiting for your wave to be called, you can always back us for immediate access once it goes live).


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Comments

  • Arkade99Arkade99 Member RarePosts: 538
    It will be really interesting to see the game with a large population. The current campaigns allow for a max of 1500 players, but we've never come close to those numbers. There are a lot of things that will get tested that haven't before.
    HatefullJamesGoblin
  • botrytisbotrytis Member RarePosts: 3,363
    It will be interesting to see how the game does in BETA.
    HatefullUngood


  • cameltosiscameltosis Member LegendaryPosts: 3,847
    I'll be curious to see how the beta works out for CF, especially in comparison to CU.

    Both games took fundamentally different paths to developing their game. CF went with a standard game engine, which meant they could start developing content very early in the process, but as there is no commercially available engine that supports true massively multiplayer, CF were due to have a hard time developing new systems and scaling up to massively multiplayer numbers.

    CU went the other way - develop their own engine so they could ensure they could support massively multiplayer numbers and have an easier time developing the systems they needed. However, it meant a long wait before the engine was in a position to start building content for it.


    2020 is the year (hopefully) when both games come to fruitition. Will CF have the engine to really support it being a large scale PvP MMO? Will CU have their engine complete enough to develop the content we want?

    Can't wait to see the outcome.
    tweedledumb99
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  • UtinniUtinni Member EpicPosts: 2,209
    I like how the general mentality now is that its a privilege to beta test a game. How far we have come.
    natpick
  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,053
    Utinni said:
    I like how the general mentality now is that its a privilege to beta test a game. How far we have come.
    I remember applying for many Alpha’s and Beta’s before you could buy your way into them, they were a privilege back then too, just another way of entry.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    Looks like progress. Nice to see a crowdfunded game make it this far.
    tweedledumb99

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  • botrytisbotrytis Member RarePosts: 3,363
    Utinni said:
    I like how the general mentality now is that its a privilege to beta test a game. How far we have come.
    You can do both with this game. Nothing wrong with that. It is the ones that only allow people who pay to Beta test are ridiculous.


  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    Have they given a timeline of when they expect the beta to be?
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    lahnmir said:
    Utinni said:
    I like how the general mentality now is that its a privilege to beta test a game. How far we have come.
    I remember applying for many Alpha’s and Beta’s before you could buy your way into them, they were a privilege back then too, just another way of entry.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    There's a world of difference between being invited to help test for no charge vs having to pay to do so.

    One is an honor of sorts, the other is just fleecing the suckers.


    Ungood

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  • RelampagoRelampago Member UncommonPosts: 451
    Did anyone just read the announcement and say what is it more than 65,000 paying backers or 63,000?
  • Arkade99Arkade99 Member RarePosts: 538
    Kyleran said:
    lahnmir said:
    Utinni said:
    I like how the general mentality now is that its a privilege to beta test a game. How far we have come.
    I remember applying for many Alpha’s and Beta’s before you could buy your way into them, they were a privilege back then too, just another way of entry.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    There's a world of difference between being invited to help test for no charge vs having to pay to do so.

    One is an honor of sorts, the other is just fleecing the suckers.


    I disagree. Just because a game is in development doesn't mean that it isn't worth paying for. Yes, beta testing used to be free. It also used to be a lot more exclusive.

    That said, the upcoming CF beta is free. The only requirement is to make an account on Crowfall.com. All of the people who will be trying out the game for free can thank those of us who helped to fund the game. Without us, the game wouldn't exist.
    Mikeha
  • Arkade99Arkade99 Member RarePosts: 538
    Relampago said:
    Did anyone just read the announcement and say what is it more than 65,000 paying backers or 63,000?
    Someone didn't proofread well enough. According to their funding page, they have 63,515 backers:

    https://crowfall.com/en-US/funding
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    Beta's were not so exclusive at all,devs used to BEG us to test their games.The difference is that there WAS a game while now a days,everything is a smoke screen to get money up front.

    So in a roundabout way devs have got those PRE ORDERS they had hoped for years only now with no promises.No product on that pre order,no problem,get your money back,NOW....lol,thanks for your money ,i bought a new house,new car,took the family on a great vacation,isn't life great,so many people to exploit.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Kyleran said:
    lahnmir said:
    Utinni said:
    I like how the general mentality now is that its a privilege to beta test a game. How far we have come.
    I remember applying for many Alpha’s and Beta’s before you could buy your way into them, they were a privilege back then too, just another way of entry.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    There's a world of difference between being invited to help test for no charge vs having to pay to do so.

    One is an honor of sorts, the other is just fleecing the suckers.


    It was always been a privilege. The truth is, that It's still an honor, even if they paid for it, because that means you were one of the early backers and put your faith in the game, even before a game existed.

    But then again, IIRC, people that purchased the Beta Access are in fact not paying more than those that will buy it at launch, so, they are getting the perks for free, just a bonus for simply jumping in sooner.

    But then again, like any game, the goal is to fleece us all, in any way they can. So, there is that.
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • IsilithTehrothIsilithTehroth Member RarePosts: 616
    Ungood said:
    Kyleran said:
    lahnmir said:
    Utinni said:
    I like how the general mentality now is that its a privilege to beta test a game. How far we have come.
    I remember applying for many Alpha’s and Beta’s before you could buy your way into them, they were a privilege back then too, just another way of entry.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    There's a world of difference between being invited to help test for no charge vs having to pay to do so.

    One is an honor of sorts, the other is just fleecing the suckers.


    It was always been a privilege. The truth is, that It's still an honor, even if they paid for it, because that means you were one of the early backers and put your faith in the game, even before a game existed.

    But then again, IIRC, people that purchased the Beta Access are in fact not paying more than those that will buy it at launch, so, they are getting the perks for free, just a bonus for simply jumping in sooner.

    But then again, like any game, the goal is to fleece us all, in any way they can. So, there is that.
    LOL an honour? Get real, back in the day developers would pay people or reward them with beta cosmetics, now they want you to give them money so they might finish their game. Unusually don't listen to feedback(in crowfall's case zerging and CC) and then wonder why the game ends of flopping or losing the majority of subs shortly after launch.

    MurderHerd

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    Arkade99 said:
    Kyleran said:
    lahnmir said:
    Utinni said:
    I like how the general mentality now is that its a privilege to beta test a game. How far we have come.
    I remember applying for many Alpha’s and Beta’s before you could buy your way into them, they were a privilege back then too, just another way of entry.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    There's a world of difference between being invited to help test for no charge vs having to pay to do so.

    One is an honor of sorts, the other is just fleecing the suckers.


    I disagree. Just because a game is in development doesn't mean that it isn't worth paying for. Yes, beta testing used to be free. It also used to be a lot more exclusive.

    That said, the upcoming CF beta is free. The only requirement is to make an account on Crowfall.com. All of the people who will be trying out the game for free can thank those of us who helped to fund the game. Without us, the game wouldn't exist.
    w/o crowdfunding dev leads might have found another way to get their games built....

    But we'll never know...

    BTW, this game is now mostly investor funded....and its whose wishes the devs cater to now.


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  • tweedledumb99tweedledumb99 Member UncommonPosts: 290
    Kyleran said:
    Arkade99 said:
    Kyleran said:
    lahnmir said:
    Utinni said:
    I like how the general mentality now is that its a privilege to beta test a game. How far we have come.
    I remember applying for many Alpha’s and Beta’s before you could buy your way into them, they were a privilege back then too, just another way of entry.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    There's a world of difference between being invited to help test for no charge vs having to pay to do so.

    One is an honor of sorts, the other is just fleecing the suckers.


    I disagree. Just because a game is in development doesn't mean that it isn't worth paying for. Yes, beta testing used to be free. It also used to be a lot more exclusive.

    That said, the upcoming CF beta is free. The only requirement is to make an account on Crowfall.com. All of the people who will be trying out the game for free can thank those of us who helped to fund the game. Without us, the game wouldn't exist.
    w/o crowdfunding dev leads might have found another way to get their games built....

    But we'll never know...

    BTW, this game is now mostly investor funded....and its whose wishes the devs cater to now.


    Any sign that these  in investor wishes are in conflict w the wishes of the majority of their current backers?
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    Kyleran said:
    Arkade99 said:
    Kyleran said:
    lahnmir said:
    Utinni said:
    I like how the general mentality now is that its a privilege to beta test a game. How far we have come.
    I remember applying for many Alpha’s and Beta’s before you could buy your way into them, they were a privilege back then too, just another way of entry.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    There's a world of difference between being invited to help test for no charge vs having to pay to do so.

    One is an honor of sorts, the other is just fleecing the suckers.


    I disagree. Just because a game is in development doesn't mean that it isn't worth paying for. Yes, beta testing used to be free. It also used to be a lot more exclusive.

    That said, the upcoming CF beta is free. The only requirement is to make an account on Crowfall.com. All of the people who will be trying out the game for free can thank those of us who helped to fund the game. Without us, the game wouldn't exist.
    w/o crowdfunding dev leads might have found another way to get their games built....

    But we'll never know...

    BTW, this game is now mostly investor funded....and its whose wishes the devs cater to now.


    Any sign that these  in investor wishes are in conflict w the wishes of the majority of their current backers?
    A bit of a kerfuffle when they decided to add some additional PVE content and some sort of persistent campaign which doesn't allow for player looting as I recall, not much else that I've heard about.
    tweedledumb99

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    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

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  • tweedledumb99tweedledumb99 Member UncommonPosts: 290
    Kyleran said:
    /snip
    A bit of a kerfuffle when they decided to add some additional PVE content and some sort of persistent campaign which doesn't allow for player looting as I recall, not much else that I've heard about.

    COol, thanks
  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,400
    I forgot what the Pvp in this game will be all about 

    Philosophy of MMO Game Design

  • EthicZHEthicZH Newbie CommonPosts: 11
    Can someone give us a review as soon as it's out?
    I really liked the concept when I first saw it but I'm a bit sceptical if the developers will really deliver what they planned, it seems like a lot of work. Especially the seasons/campaign part.
  • tweedledumb99tweedledumb99 Member UncommonPosts: 290
    EthicZH said:
    Can someone give us a review as soon as it's out?
    I really liked the concept when I first saw it but I'm a bit sceptical if the developers will really deliver what they planned, it seems like a lot of work. Especially the seasons/campaign part.

    Of all the crowdfunded MMO's with PvP (medium-scale or larger ones at least), Crowfall seems the closest to delivering on its initial scope/plans from what I've seen - what am I missing here?
  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,053
    EthicZH said:
    Can someone give us a review as soon as it's out?
    I really liked the concept when I first saw it but I'm a bit sceptical if the developers will really deliver what they planned, it seems like a lot of work. Especially the seasons/campaign part.

    Of all the crowdfunded MMO's with PvP (medium-scale or larger ones at least), Crowfall seems the closest to delivering on its initial scope/plans from what I've seen - what am I missing here?
    Not much, of all crowdfunded MMORPGs they are indeed the furthest along and the closest to delivering what they promised. What helps is that that what was promised is a very focussed, relatively small scale project, a very smart one though.

    For reference, I’ve been on and off playing Crowfall since 2016 and also pretty much invested in every other crowdfunding MMORPG out there. These guys are furthest along, really.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir


    tweedledumb99UngoodKyleran
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    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'

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    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • tweedledumb99tweedledumb99 Member UncommonPosts: 290
    lahnmir said:
    EthicZH said:
    Can someone give us a review as soon as it's out?
    I really liked the concept when I first saw it but I'm a bit sceptical if the developers will really deliver what they planned, it seems like a lot of work. Especially the seasons/campaign part.

    Of all the crowdfunded MMO's with PvP (medium-scale or larger ones at least), Crowfall seems the closest to delivering on its initial scope/plans from what I've seen - what am I missing here?
    Not much, of all crowdfunded MMORPGs they are indeed the furthest along and the closest to delivering what they promised. What helps is that that what was promised is a very focussed, relatively small scale project, a very smart one though.

    For reference, I’ve been on and off playing Crowfall since 2016 and also pretty much invested in every other crowdfunding MMORPG out there. These guys are furthest along, really.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir


    Good, that's what I thought. But nonetheless, people will say the game's never coming out or it's made no progress, without a single clue or speck of insight into what's actually happening. Anyway, glad to get some actual insight, thanks.
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Ungood said:
    Kyleran said:
    lahnmir said:
    Utinni said:
    I like how the general mentality now is that its a privilege to beta test a game. How far we have come.
    I remember applying for many Alpha’s and Beta’s before you could buy your way into them, they were a privilege back then too, just another way of entry.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    There's a world of difference between being invited to help test for no charge vs having to pay to do so.

    One is an honor of sorts, the other is just fleecing the suckers.


    It was always been a privilege. The truth is, that It's still an honor, even if they paid for it, because that means you were one of the early backers and put your faith in the game, even before a game existed.

    But then again, IIRC, people that purchased the Beta Access are in fact not paying more than those that will buy it at launch, so, they are getting the perks for free, just a bonus for simply jumping in sooner.

    But then again, like any game, the goal is to fleece us all, in any way they can. So, there is that.
    LOL an honour? Get real, back in the day developers would pay people or reward them with beta cosmetics, now they want you to give them money so they might finish their game. Unusually don't listen to feedback(in crowfall's case zerging and CC) and then wonder why the game ends of flopping or losing the majority of subs shortly after launch.
    Not exactly sure what you mean by "Back in the Day" but keep in mind, if all the people "back in the day" were not falling all over themselves to be in Beta so they could flex their e-peen and brag about it, we never would be where we are today with a company being able to sell those seats.

    So thanks I guess to all those 'beta" teasters that wanted to rub it in everyone's face they were beta testers.... you allowed the Game Companies another venture of revenue.

    I am sure they thank you.. well.. in an obscure general way, not in a personal way, anyway, I can't blame a company for trying to make an honest buck. 
    Kyleran
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

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