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ArenaNet Details The Future Of Guild Wars 2, Including A Third Expansion

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited March 2020 in News & Features Discussion

imageArenaNet Details The Future Of Guild Wars 2, Including A Third Expansion

In a blog post on the Guild Wars 2 website today, the team at ArenaNet laid out their vision for the future of Guild Wars 2, including word that they are hard at work on an upcoming third epxansion of the venerable MMO.

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  • VorthanionVorthanion Member RarePosts: 2,749
    They've only had two expansions for the game so far? Seems a bit slow to me. I figure an MMORPG needs an expansion per year to keep it fresh and help draw in new gamers as well as retain their current base. I thought they were a healthy sized company, why such a slow pace?
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  • ShutaraShutara Member UncommonPosts: 146


    They've only had two expansions for the game so far? Seems a bit slow to me. I figure an MMORPG needs an expansion per year to keep it fresh and help draw in new gamers as well as retain their current base. I thought they were a healthy sized company, why such a slow pace?



    Because they know how submissive their playerbase is, and that there's basically no new rivalry in the genre to actually deliver quality content regularly. Look, grinding festivals and a tournament makes 2/3 of this "announcement". And these are highlights for the upcoming 3 months. This should be enough to make up one's mind about how devs treat it's game.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,061
    I am overjoyed at this. Guild Wars Factions was my favorite game (say it with me) OF ALL TIME! 

    It's like returning to my childhood home. I can't wait to explore the Echovald Forest and the Jade Sea in whatever form they take in GW2.
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  • JensynJensyn Member UncommonPosts: 158
    Aeander said:
    I am overjoyed at this. Guild Wars Factions was my favorite game (say it with me) OF ALL TIME! 

    It's like returning to my childhood home. I can't wait to explore the Echovald Forest and the Jade Sea in whatever form they take in GW2.

    YES. ALL OF THIS. I have nothing else to do right now so take my moneeeeey.
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  • botrytisbotrytis Member RarePosts: 3,363
    edited March 2020
    mistake, they should move on to Guild Wars 3, GW2 is way to casual, you don't feel the progression of your character, that is stupid for an RPG where character development is important, u need feel the power, i don't wanna have to spend 4 years to kill a stupid spider in the forest forever no matter the weapon i have equipped

    Well, GW 3 probably will never happen. It would mean a new engine, etc.

    You make casual sound like a bad thing. This has always been the issue with this forum. So what if is a casual game? It means, if I want to play with friends I can pick it up and go, no muss no fuss. Nothing wrong with that. I don't have to spend 50 million hours to gear up to play (See you are not the only one that can exaggerate)

    And you don't spend 4 years killing a Spider. I mean my mesmer can solo most Champs at lower levels (not the Zone champs) but like Champion Spiders etc. Doesn't take 4 days.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,061
    edited March 2020
    I would much prefer that Guild Wars 2 flesh out its horizontal progression, that the franchise is known for, than attempt to become yet another me-too vertical treadmill, tyvm.
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  • APThugAPThug Member RarePosts: 543
    edited March 2020
    There doesn't need to be a gw3 -_- .....

    With that said, I'm super excited for this announcement! I think this would be the perfect opportunity to bring in Tengu as a playable race and bring back alliance battles between the Kurzick and the Luxons for pvp.
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  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584
    guys please, have some decency, your fanboysm is showing
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,061
    guys please, have some decency, your fanboysm is showing
    God forbid people be happy about anything, right?

    APThug said:
    There doesn't need to be a gw3 -_- .....

    With that said, I'm super excited for this announcement! I think this would be the perfect opportunity to bring in Tengu as a playable race and bring back alliance battles between the Kurzick and the Luxons for pvp.
    Yes please.
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  • slowz2secretslowz2secret Member RarePosts: 449
    Only 2 expansions in 8 years i don't know how to feels about that
  • DeathleecherDeathleecher Member UncommonPosts: 89
    GW2 is dying, that is the reason, why it takes them forever to bring new stuff out.

    If you see the earning call, they are bleeding players.

    They should just scrap gw2, make an GW2. Rethink everything.

    Make a LFD as in other games, where you search for players, not a LFG where you apply to groups. I seen so many new people dropping the game, bacuse they hit max level and now they want to try out dungeons. Old players just kick them from the group instant. "BAD GEAR, Or NO EXP".

    Would also say, gw really need better gear progession, a gear progessions that keeps you playing, where you always have a goal to get better and do better.
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  • MaridMarid Member UncommonPosts: 128
    Goody, goody, gumdrops...goody, goody, gumdrops!! I wish upon a shooting star: please let the expansion be located in Cantha...and please let them introduce little fairy companions, like in BDO; and pets that pick up my loot: like baby lambs, and baby goats, and baby French bulldogs that wear eye monocles and top hats, and baby lightning bugs, and baby hamsters, and baby jackalopes, and baby ants that ride around on ladybugs, and baby raccoons that wear cowboy hats and walk like John Wayne, and baby frogs, and baby hairless kitty cats, and baby aardvarks...and teeny-tiny baby butterfly's that fly around my little fairy companion and give her butterfly kisses that make her giggle! How precious would that be?

    My 437th wish for GW2 is that they add hireable mercenaries so that we can do small/medium events at a time of our choosing. That would be an amazing QoL addition.

    Aeander
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534


    mistake, they should move on to Guild Wars 3, GW2 is way to casual, you don't feel the progression of your character, that is stupid for an RPG where character development is important, u need feel the power, i don't wanna have to spend 4 years to kill a stupid spider in the forest forever no matter the weapon i have equipped



    yah.. because catering to hardcore players worked so well for them in HoT.
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  • TalemireTalemire Member UncommonPosts: 842
    edited March 2020
    This game has a terrible and unimpactful progression system and everything is normalized.
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  • TruvidiennTruvidienn Member UncommonPosts: 347
    edited March 2020
    Was gonna buy HoT.. Might as well wait for this one so I can buy a bundled package.
  • APThugAPThug Member RarePosts: 543

    Talemire said:

    This game has a terrible and unimpactful progression system and everything is normalized.



    Thats because your most likely used to vertical progression (become more powerful overtime) instead of horizontal progression (not necessarily becoming more powerful, but having a lot more options to do stuff)

    GW2 is more of a horizontal progression game, and its clear there are many people who like this kind of style. In fact, when ascended gear was brought into the game (which presented vertical progression via gathering more and more agony resistance) people were up in arms upset. Some even quit and found it to be a betrayal. This includes legendary armor.

    I like both progression systems, and theres a place for both. Gw2 is honestly kind of a rare MMO in a sea of MMO's that offer a different and unique progression system where my skill can matter more than my gear. I can jump in and play with friends immediately rather then play catch up by myself for weeks or months before I have the correct "gear" to play. (Like in swtor for example, where I might as well not even be in a raid group because I'm barely contributing to anything because of my low gear score even though I'm max level)
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    We shall see.. we shall see.

    First they say they aren't going to make new expansions, now they are. Sounds like they just need a  way to get players to part with their money, and learned making Expansions will do exactly that.

    Sadly, they have lost a lot of good faith with their Casual base after HoT, and really didn't do anything to turn that around, which, regardless how much people want to pretend otherwise, Casuals and players that were burned out on traditional gear grind MMO's, that everyone cries about wanting, was at least at one time, a huge demographic in GW2.

    Not sure what they have left at this point, I wager the diehard fan's.. that somehow are not spending enough to keep the game afloat.

    I almost didn't buy PoF, but my static told me it was really good, so, I bought it to help them get mounts and stuff, which, it's always fun playing with my friends, no matter what game we play.

    Anyway, who knows, maybe this expansion will be the perfect fan service that is needed to rebound., or it might be a final nail in the coffin like HoT almost was, I don't know. I was part of the demographic that rage-quit over HoT, so, even tho I am playing again, I am not the demographic that will make or break this expansions.

    As I said.. we shall see.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,061
    The expansion is honestly the first good sign that the community has had in a while. After the layoffs, it seemed unlikely that the game has a future, and... now it just might. And if it doesn't, at least it gave a huge segment of the community something they've been asking for since literally the beginning.
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  • azarhalazarhal Member RarePosts: 1,402
    edited March 2020
    I'm starting to think that Anet old management (they pretty much all left now) just didn't want to do expac, but NCSoft wanted them to make them.

    The moment the last of these person left, Anet started to work on a new expac for GW2...which means it won't be out until late next year at best.


    Also, Canthaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,061
    edited March 2020
    APThug said:

    Talemire said:

    This game has a terrible and unimpactful progression system and everything is normalized.



    Thats because your most likely used to vertical progression (become more powerful overtime) instead of horizontal progression (not necessarily becoming more powerful, but having a lot more options to do stuff)

    GW2 is more of a horizontal progression game, and its clear there are many people who like this kind of style. In fact, when ascended gear was brought into the game (which presented vertical progression via gathering more and more agony resistance) people were up in arms upset. Some even quit and found it to be a betrayal. This includes legendary armor.

    I like both progression systems, and theres a place for both. Gw2 is honestly kind of a rare MMO in a sea of MMO's that offer a different and unique progression system where my skill can matter more than my gear. I can jump in and play with friends immediately rather then play catch up by myself for weeks or months before I have the correct "gear" to play. (Like in swtor for example, where I might as well not even be in a raid group because I'm barely contributing to anything because of my low gear score even though I'm max level)
    I think there are ways to compromise and make a deeper horizontal progression system that also provides a satisfying gear chase, but this really deserves a thread of its own, and maybe I'll do that. Unfortunately, Guild Wars 2 is fundamentally not designed to accomodate such a thing. Its gear system combines the worst of both worlds - combining the bland, vertical statistics of vertical progression while also permanently capping progression like in horizontal progression. 


    But the basic summary of my suggestion would be to add Diablo-esque gear with 1 exciting modifier per piece, along with 2-5 stat bonuses that roll in random values, but (and this is important) always total out to the same amount of points (and the numbers used should be low - ie: 10 points of total stats - to keep variations reasonable). The gear that you get 3,000 hours in would be at the same level of the gear that you get at the very beginning, but there would be so many different combinations that you would always be finding new possibilities on new skins, and trading would thrive.
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404
    EQ2 also had a good horizontal system in their Alternate advancement i think it was called 
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  • JensynJensyn Member UncommonPosts: 158
    Was gonna buy HoT.. Might as well wait for this one so I can buy a bundled package.

    When you buy the standard edition of Path of Fire, you get HoT bundled in with it! The new xpac is still probably a little ways out, so I'd suggest getting a little bit of a head start-especially if you want to work on your Ascended gear. If you craft your own Ascended gear, some of the mats are time-gated, so it'll take a bit before you can complete your set. You can buy the mats you need, but it can get a little expensive. Starting now would also let you unlock your gliding and mount, so you'd be ready to rock and roll if/when Cantha comes.
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  • botrytisbotrytis Member RarePosts: 3,363
    If it is Cantha. If we have Tengu as a playable race, they do seem to have that 'Cantha-like' vibe lso. This would also mean we could get into their area (which is walled off in certain areas - like LA). 


  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,061
    botrytis said:
    If it is Cantha. If we have Tengu as a playable race, they do seem to have that 'Cantha-like' vibe lso. This would also mean we could get into their area (which is walled off in certain areas - like LA). 
    It would be ironic to an extent. The Tengu are deeply tied to the story of Cantha, but they also quite explicitly have no reason to want to return. They were expelled from the continent. The Canthan people attempted to commit genocide against them.
  • botrytisbotrytis Member RarePosts: 3,363
    Aeander said:
    botrytis said:
    If it is Cantha. If we have Tengu as a playable race, they do seem to have that 'Cantha-like' vibe lso. This would also mean we could get into their area (which is walled off in certain areas - like LA). 
    It would be ironic to an extent. The Tengu are deeply tied to the story of Cantha, but they also quite explicitly have no reason to want to return. They were expelled from the continent. The Canthan people attempted to commit genocide against them.
    I understand but I think it would be an interesting story, in keeping with the lore of Guild Wars.


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