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LuickaLuicka Member Posts: 7
i am hating wow as of latley because you need to spend hours and hours in 20 - 40 man raids to get decent loot.  this is very boring.  i want a more pvp based game.  my question is in guildwars how do you aquire weapons and armor will it take you as long as it does in wow. 

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  • treed0223treed0223 Member Posts: 84
    no it wont take you as long, but the pvp is limited to a more arena type style, where the biggest it gets is like teams of 8 facing off.  It has a good story line and such, but it didn't last long enough for me.  Its a good game overall though, might wanna try it out if your tired of WoW, thats what i did.
  • RyuSlashRyuSlash Member Posts: 21
    Now with Factions it's a maximum size of 3 teams of 8 versus 3 teams of 8 I think. So kinda 24v24

  • KnightblastKnightblast Member UncommonPosts: 1,787
    Yes it's much bigger, and the areas for PvP are much bigger as well.  One fun feature of Factions is the "observe" function, where you can pick a big battle that is taking place and just spectate for a few minutes to see strategies, and get a sense for the new scale of PvP in the expansion.

  • darkfalzdarkfalz Member Posts: 58
    Guildwars sucks, I don't even know why they allow loot drops.

    They should disallow loot drops for weapons. Just keep your starter weapon and be able to upgrade it at level 10, 20.

    Seriously. Greens aren't even good. They're about the greys of World of Warcraft.

    PvP is dumb as well. They'res not much to do but repeat the same tactic over and over unless you want to be ridden dirty by some pimp-saucers that ALWAYS use the same tactic and are on ventrilo.

    Uninstall Guild Wars.


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  • PrecusorPrecusor Member UncommonPosts: 3,589


    Originally posted by darkfalz

    PvP is dumb as well. They'res not much to do but repeat the same tactic over and over unless you want to be ridden dirty by some pimp-saucers that ALWAYS use the same tactic and are on ventrilo.




    Sounds like battle grounds.
  • AseenusAseenus Member UncommonPosts: 1,844
    nope lol... u can make premaid pvp chars with maxed armor/wepons :)

  • yawgyawg Member CommonPosts: 8

    Guild Wars is much deeper than that, its really all about skill just like the devs say. To see some quality high level PvP use the Observer mode and see the top guilds playing.

    And about equipment... getting maximum stats weapons with perfect modifiers is really easy, even for a casual player. Its done in a way that doesnt require almost any grind, with all those collectors and crafters offering max stats items and those lots of cheap perfect green items its not items that will give you edge in combat. The only things that are expensive and very hard to get are items with both great stats and rare cool loking models.

  • TigerchaTigercha Member Posts: 182


    Originally posted by darkfalz
    Guildwars sucks, I don't even know why they allow loot drops.

    They should disallow loot drops for weapons. Just keep your starter weapon and be able to upgrade it at level 10, 20.

    Seriously. Greens aren't even good. They're about the greys of World of Warcraft.

    PvP is dumb as well. They'res not much to do but repeat the same tactic over and over unless you want to be ridden dirty by some pimp-saucers that ALWAYS use the same tactic and are on ventrilo.

    Uninstall Guild Wars.



    you are so funny, I laughed my arse off when I read your coments, I hope that was your intention and you were not being a http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/troller.htm

    but yawg has it spot on, and Greens are just so awesome and easy to get your paws on and Ventrilo and TS are the only way to play HoH ect...

  • SilthariousSiltharious Member Posts: 52

    Well I'm playing WoW and I've only been in MC once and ZG twice. So don't feel bad or hate doing 40 man instances all the time. There are plenty more things you can do on WoW than on Guild Wars. For one I am upset that Guild War's max level is 20 even after the release of the expansion pack. I do'nt find the point of it because you won't get as many skills compared to WoW. Another thing I don't like is how you can only have 4 characters total, and now 6 on Factions. On WoW you can have about 12 characters per server, and there are at least 50 servers. I'm not saying Guild Wars is bad, its just that I'm tired of seeing people whin about how long it takes you to get nice gear. If you like PvP its really fun in AV, even though I'm only rank 7 but I got my gear from simple instances and I don't have any problem mostly on beating those who have epics. You just have to understand your skills as a class and understand what things you need to become stronger.

    Who asked you.

  • Mikes123Mikes123 Member Posts: 114
    if you buy Guildwars expecting WoW minus Raids, then yes you will be disappointed.

    it is not anything like World of Warcraft and a lot of us are damn glad about this! LOL



    here counts how good you are at playing the game and not how big your ..... weapon is. deal with it, or die shamefully.

    some unimaginative people (and there s quite a few) might use "cookie cutter builds" for their characters and teams....... but guess what ?  a team that is creative and can think on their feet will wipe the floor with any cookie cutter build and laugh at em.

    for a demonstration yeah, fire up observer mode and watch the top guilds play.


  • donniebdonnieb Member Posts: 9
    I think Guild Wars is a bit better than WoW in
    terms of PvP because it's what the game is all about. Both games are very
    similar however, with it being very difficult to dominate any opponent 1 on 1
    and the PvP sessions drifting a bit into the pointless area as time goes on.


    Regardless, I've enjoyed both games a lot and still play both from time to
    time. Although I find I get more enjoyment out of a couple hours in Guild Wars
    as compared to a couple hours in WoW.


    Go figure. 

    Me like games... *burp*

  • Blck_PantherBlck_Panther Member Posts: 39

    Well, i want to discuss about this to, but the problem is ..  I love WoW and Guild Wars ..

    I think both games rock, but in different ways ..

  • Navonod_7Navonod_7 Member Posts: 46


    Originally posted by Siltharious

    Well I'm playing WoW and I've only been in MC once and ZG twice. So don't feel bad or hate doing 40 man instances all the time. There are plenty more things you can do on WoW than on Guild Wars. For one I am upset that Guild War's max level is 20 even after the release of the expansion pack. I do'nt find the point of it because you won't get as many skills compared to WoW. Another thing I don't like is how you can only have 4 characters total, and now 6 on Factions. On WoW you can have about 12 characters per server, and there are at least 50 servers. I'm not saying Guild Wars is bad, its just that I'm tired of seeing people whin about how long it takes you to get nice gear. If you like PvP its really fun in AV, even though I'm only rank 7 but I got my gear from simple instances and I don't have any problem mostly on beating those who have epics. You just have to understand your skills as a class and understand what things you need to become stronger.


          

    In Factions you can get better stuff and get to lvl 20 a lot faster.  The level cap isn't so bad, because the monsters can't got too far past it.  Also it forces you to develop skill and not just blindly attack crap until it dies. The weapons actually keep this even as well. The number of character slots isn't bad considering you can unlock all the skills of your secondary proffession, and there are 8 classes and 6 char slots.  Most peeps only want just a few classes anyway so it isn't so bad.


  • SilthariousSiltharious Member Posts: 52

    Well what I'm saying is that Guild Wars only has the basis of what World of Warcraft has. There are 9 different classes on WoW with 8 different races, each rach only being able to be certain classes. Also, each race has there own special ability such as the undead have Will of the Forsaken, and the night elves have Shadowmeld.

    Another thing I forgot to mention about one of my dislikes on Guild Wars is the limit to 7 skills. You can have 30 available to you on WoW with 20 more slots in changeable. It takes more skill to play WoW than Guild Wars because of  its abilities. 

    Who asked you.

  • wsgwinnerwsgwinner Member Posts: 8
    well i'm looking into playing guild wars, and am currently playing wow (wsgwinner's/bronzebeard) but some of the stuff u guys are saying about wow makes no sense, all im hearing is that wow is senseless easy pvp, apparently u guys have never tried playing vs twink teams, or playing av, av is all based on skill because its 40vs40 1person wont matter u have to work together, now from what i've heard guild wars is more team based but can any1 go further, maybe give some examples, any 4vs4 requires team help to win, what makes guild wars unique? oh and any1 who thinks that wow is simple in pvp come to bronzebeard ill fight any lvl :) i run the horde guild Warsong Warriors and am also in the elite alliance guild Anger Management, and if u wanna see team work c us fight each other, 7h stalemate record with more than 300 kills per person :)
  • AseenusAseenus Member UncommonPosts: 1,844

    if someone says 20-40 man raids are boring... there lieing... they have never gone in a 20-40 man raid :P

    whats boring about getting 40 people together to fight a huge monster? its fun as man.. its one of the only perks in the game!

    yes i think guild wars is better then wow but i dont like it when people who dont know wat there talking about pop out of nowhere and bag a game..

    guild wars is more pvp based yes but i seriously think that wow fan boys + guild wars fan boys shouldnt be mocking the other one just because there rivals and just because you have played one and not the other.. doing 40 man raids is good for the loot but its better just for the experiance!

    in gw theres not much "boss" content... the hardest guy u can fight in both original + factions is glint and even if u kill her she still drops nuthing special ><

    pve wise guild wars has a better story line but theres less pve then in wow so...wow > guild wars in pve

    pvp wise guild wars is much better with tactics/skill/stratergy where in wow all u need is good gear and very little so... guild wars > wow in pvp

    and im a pvp lover so.. i love guild wars ><

  • AseenusAseenus Member UncommonPosts: 1,844


    Originally posted by wsgwinner
    well i'm looking into playing guild wars, and am currently playing wow (wsgwinner's/bronzebeard) but some of the stuff u guys are saying about wow makes no sense, all im hearing is that wow is senseless easy pvp, apparently u guys have never tried playing vs twink teams, or playing av, av is all based on skill because its 40vs40 1person wont matter u have to work together, now from what i've heard guild wars is more team based but can any1 go further, maybe give some examples, any 4vs4 requires team help to win, what makes guild wars unique? oh and any1 who thinks that wow is simple in pvp come to bronzebeard ill fight any lvl :) i run the horde guild Warsong Warriors and am also in the elite alliance guild Anger Management, and if u wanna see team work c us fight each other, 7h stalemate record with more than 300 kills per person :)


    av is about who ninjas graveyards better... if no one ninjas any gravetards then horde usually push much harder then allies!

    yesterday horde was losing when i joined av.. they weere all the way back at frsotwolf graveyard!  i made them give me leadership and organised the stupid noobs in only one hours time we were at stormpike graveyard! while 10-15 people held them on the bridge i made every single horde mount up and and charge to north tower all at once.. we took both towers in 1 hours time! av is about if people listen to an experianced player.. if people dont listen then it turns out the same each time! everyone sitting there farming rep :S

    guild wars doesnt have many good pugs for pvp and even if they do guild wars pugs are much more organised.. e.g.

    in guild wars someone will say "Rank 6 Looking for rank6+ ranger spike group with vent/ts"

    so leet people all join one another and atually have a chance... in wow people dont do that much people just join queue and go with the flow.. this is not blizzards fault much, its more the communities!

  • DuraheLLDuraheLL Member Posts: 2,951

    WoW is all about the items. And time. Time = Items. But in the end you will ask yourself "Why do I really care about them anyway?".

    Guild Wars has not such depth as a MMORPG has. But it's best at what it is, a fast paced action RPG which requires SKILLS and TEAMWORK and PLANNING.

    Guild Wars is NOT item dependant. The top items can be aquired pretty fast and it's more about HOW your use them. There are not really items which are better than others it's all about how you chose to play your character. No options are foul.

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  • Mikes123Mikes123 Member Posts: 114


    Originally posted by Aseenus


    in guild wars someone will say "Rank 6 Looking for rank6+ ranger spike group with vent/ts"
    so leet people all join one another and atually have a chance... in wow people dont do that much people just join queue and go with the flow.. this is not blizzards fault much, its more the communities!


    that one couldn t be more wrong considering in WoW people team up in premade teams for AB and WSG in full guild raidgeared guild groups on teamspeak and totally lay waste to any PUG that joins the queue in a matter of mere moments....... AV is different still, but i don t like waiting 1-2 hours till one starts, if at all. it s really only feasible to play AV on the weekends during primetime if you don t want to read a book while waiting lol. and again, if it starts it s by now only a question who s "zerg" reaches the general first, heck in most games people don t even bother fighting each other anymore and now they even removed most npcs in the latest patch, roflamo~

    and you know another big difference? a Rank 6 in Guildwars has the same stats, same abilities, same armor, same weapon, as a Rank0. what seperates them is playing skill and not "l337" items that dominate WoW PvP. gotta love getting one/two shotted by raid geared chars that have double the hitpoints, mana, armor and damage of a regular player that just got lvl 60 and tries the battlegrounds eh?
  • prokiller88prokiller88 Member Posts: 17
    Guild wars is a good game, It requires you to think of what would help you in a team of 8 and 12..Getting 40 people to kill off another group is easy, just all attack the same one. But on guild wars theres unexpected stuff. You never know if a E/Mo will heal or nuke you with a meteor. Or a Mo/E to use mind freeze on you.
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