http://www.gamespot.com/news/6151181.htmlThis would allow WAR to challenge WoW and reach the 2 million subscriber mark.
Makes sense.... may not happen, but if you read the article....it took Mythic only 6 weeks to get WAR fully functional and up and running as well as thier PC version of the MMO.
Communication with others obviously is a major issue and would have to lead Microsoft to add a key board to the 360. Wich is extremely easy fyi.
Should be fun to watch....and it makes sense. Leave it to a superior company like Mythic to experiment with this.
Time will tell.
The future of MMO is multi platforms for maximum exposure and revenue.
To argue against that is folly.
Even a crap company like SOE with their debacle and horrific squandering of thier Star Wars MMO is now going to the consule (PS3).
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Fantastic......
I sincerely hope that the console becomes the new frontier for MMO gaming. It would be nice to have a single system on which to play. As we have seen most recently consoles are getting the lions share of good games. How awesome would it be to not need a pc when you want to play your MMO?
As long as it has the same functionality such as a web browser (the Wii will have opera, xbox will end up using some form of IE i assume) You could do your gaming and web surfing email and such all on the same machine. If WAR goes to the 360 then I will definitely be playing it there.
Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.
i love my 360 and to see this coming on the console would be AWESOME, especially if its cross platform
even if it doesnt get released onthe 360 i will be picking it up and know many people that are looking forward to WAR.
cant wait for this one
Yeah I agree that your probably going to need some sort of keyboard, but you realy only want that for chat and stuff, if you can play the game with a controler that would be somthing special.
I do hope this game comes to 360, to multi platform would be somthing other MMO developers would watch with intrest, pull it off and it could show a shift in the times...
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haha... i cant stand you.. how can you say wii would have opera.. and assume that 360 will have ie..ASSUME? man..im glad people here know what they are talking about.
first off..i dont think this will happen.. secondly if it does.. of course ie will go to 360, but why would you say opera would go to the wii? thats just stupid talk... you are just trying to sound more intelligent than you are.. there is no way you could know opera would go to wii.. plus there are way better browsers out there.
and as for the game being on 360, that would be cool, i have a 360..but i think i would still use my pc. Its way more effecient for an mmo.. but it would still be cool.
I hope they dont spend a single seccond on any alteration (read dumbing down the game) just to make the game playable on a game system customized to play games with simplistic controls.
Now dont get me wrong, console games can be extremly fun and entertaining.. but they're way behind a regular PC when the enviromnent becomes more advanced (There's nothing worse than playing a game on pc that was ported from a console, the limitations of the console system become so freaking obvious)... And every feature they add, (harddrive, mouse, keyboard, whatever) just makes the consoles more into a poor mans PC. What it boils down to is that the consoles are just a way to try and control the market at the expense of quality.
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration - courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and, above all, love of the truth." - Henry Mencken
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg
"And what would you do with a brain if you had one?" - Wizard of Oz
overall im disapointed with WAR's e3 this year i thought they would have a little more stuff out, i guess thier not as far along in development as i thought they were
There is a good discussion about this issue going on at Warhammer Alliance. Based on what I've read on their forums it's almost half and half. A general consensus is pc gamers don't mind, as long as the game doesn't get washed down. I'm with this crowd as well but I hope they take a more creative approach to the opportunity this gives them.
It seems like it's the same way in this thread. With members like Nimuel on one side and members like Valley and Starman on the other. Everyone raises some good points. We will have to see how the developer will utilize it. We'll know when we get in there if anything has changed. Granted any Elder Scroll fan will be able to tell if the game play is watered down when they go from the PC to consoles. And if they can't, that's good right? It means the devs did a great job in porting it from one console to another.
"if they can come up with some way to keep the game as complex as a PC game should be and port it to the consoles... sure, why not?"
And yea, sure, why not? Only problem is it's not possible, the PC is a much more complex sytem with such extreme possibilities for customization, alterations, adaptation that it leaves the static console systems waaaaay behind. If they do port the game to consoles the PC version will be continuosly punished for it.
Consoles are great for platform games and the likes, short term games in other words... On a PC a longrunning product can evolve along with the technology and last for a long long time, even upgrade the engine as the standard of home computer systems rises after a few years.
I for one will not even bother to buy WAR if they make it a cross console game... I already know i wont like it...
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration - courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and, above all, love of the truth." - Henry Mencken
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg
"And what would you do with a brain if you had one?" - Wizard of Oz
But picture all the aderol-addicted 12 year olds, with a mouth like a sailor, and the motor skills of a retarded dolphin, and then picture them being bundled up in one place. That gives you Halo 2 on Xbox Live. Now picture, instead of them being separated on 16 man servers, being placed in the same place at once. That, is MMO Hell.
Look, I love consoles, but I just stopped playing them, because everytime I get into a conversation about them, it's always the same thing "lolz, GTA San Andreas and Halo 2 r teh besst gamez EVAR!!11". The console crowd, in the majority, is mostly the younger, more immature crowd. I avoid people like that as much as possible, even though I am in that relative age range. Just the lack of thought about anything drives me insane. These people don't even realize that half these console games are just rehashed piles of crap. It's just new to them because it's on a console instead of a PC.
This is why I hate Halo fanboys. I was a fan of the first game, I played it a lot. It was the PC version, so I got to experience the wonder of online play with it. Halo 2 was, for the most part, a bogged down Halo, with better graphics, online play, and dual wielding (bogged down meaning easier, the weapons had higher damage, longer firing ranges, and more accuracy, making the game easy, even too easy). And to begin with, even the original Halo was almost a duplicate of so many sci-fi FPS's on the PC.
Sorry for the tangent, but I have a grudge against your "average" person. They like what you tell them to like. They do what you tell them to do. And they don't think any farther beyond that. It's just a matter of who was the first person to tell them to do something that molds them into who they are. It pisses me off, and I would very much perfer to avoid people like that in any and all ways possible, and I hope there are those here who agree with me.
I realy hope they dont do this..
We shall not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started... and know the place for the first time.
-T.S. Eliot
Well just to show I mean business.....
And that :Blank: obviously knows nothing
here is your link to Wii getting Opera browser
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/opera/opera-browser-coming-to-wii-172728.php
enjoy
Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.
not really my fault.when you make a statement around here (cause everyone knows everything) you should post a link.. also..when i have my wii and its on there ill completely apologize..but until then no.. Xbox1 was supposed to get ie and it never happend, also. opera is pretty much the worst decision they could have chosen.. there are way better browswers.. i cant wait for the wii but thats a dissapointment.
I dont care if they put war on the 360..i just dont want the same servers..
"overall im disapointed with WAR's e3 this year i thought they would have a little more stuff out, i guess thier not as far along in development as i thought they were"
They are not set to release the game until another 20 months or so, why would they show all their toys at this years E3 when they got next years E3 also, which IMO will be huge.
I think it is horrible. Console users won't get any lag or have any problems, because the game was built for the system, whereas us computer users will be at a disadvantage if our computers are even slightly old.
I'm sorry, but mixing console and PC users is an unfair advantage for many.
And so far this has only been a test to see how easy you can get a pc game over on the Xbox 360. Currently there is no console version announced. If it will come to console I don't have any trouble with it. Unless the game is dumbed down.
And so far this has only been a test to see how easy you can get a pc game over on the Xbox 360. Currently there is no console version announced. If it will come to console I don't have any trouble with it. Unless the game is dumbed down.
Consoles are updated every few years and if the MMO is made for the console, the technology used for the game will stay up-to-date. The average American adult with a family isn't going to bother with upgrading his computer every few years for a game. In PvP, a person with a controler will more than likely beat a person with a keyboard. It's just an unfair advantage no matter how you slice it. Plus as others have said, by putting it on a console, they will be inviting a larger portion of kiddies than we already have in MMO's. I've played DAoC on the same computer system for 4 years now. You won't be able to do that if your playing against a console crowd.
The only way I would support it, is if they had their own servers they had to play on, while PC users had their own.
Oh and by the way; I don't think your right about most people buying a new computer by 2007. The majority of people who have money to throw around like that are older adults and older adults don't buy a new computer everytime a new game comes out. They buy a new computer when it's next in line on the priority list. Besides, I never heard of those two games your talking about. Mythic made DAOC and it was an awsome mature persons game, that didn't draw your immature crowd. I thought W.A.R. would be the same, because of Mythic, but now I see I am wrong and probably should stay away from WAR.
Well thanks for the info. Yes I think I agree with you now. Most people who use computers often will probably want to upgrade within the next year or so. I didn't know they were coming out with a new DX and a new Windows. Is there a specific website I should look for to find out what features these two products will be offering? Is it something being introduced in Europe first?
What is a dual-core processor and what are the benefits vrs. the single core processor. I have no real knowledge of the inner workings of a computer, but I need to know some of these things, because I actually did plan to buy a new computer within the next 6 months. Mine is 4 yrs old and way outdated.
Well thanks for the info. Yes I think I agree with you now. Most people who use computers often will probably want to upgrade within the next year or so. I didn't know they were coming out with a new DX and a new Windows. Is there a specific website I should look for to find out what features these two products will be offering? Is it something being introduced in Europe first?
What is a dual-core processor and what are the benefits vrs. the single core processor. I have no real knowledge of the inner workings of a computer, but I need to know some of these things, because I actually did plan to buy a new computer within the next 6 months. Mine is 4 yrs old and way outdated.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/
Just search google and you will find alot about it. I think gamespot did a article too, regarding Vista and gaming.
Dual core is 2 single core processors on top of each other. Exellent for running things at the same time. You could run a game + another heavy operation in the background without any slow downs. Soon games are going to use it. They can run much more heavy operations, and you can have them running seperate of each other. For the future a dual core processor is recommended.
I'm kinda in the same situation as you. But I'm going to wait with the upgrade untill the Direct X 10 graphic cards are out. Since they are backward compatible. Current video cards aren't forward compatible, so unless you want to buy a new one in the near future, I would wait untill Direct X 10 cards are on the market.
i really dont mind if they want to release it for 360, i have a 360 and have nothing against it. i know i wont be playing any MMO that requires more then 8 hotkeys on 360. that's gonna be a nightmare for hotkey setup, unless they already have keyboard and mouse ready to go for these games that will work with 360.
either way, i think i'll be playing mine for the pc, the only advantage i get from playing my 360 is getting to use my high end surround set up.