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Camelot Unchained Looks Like It's Starting to Take Shape
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Camelot Unchained Looks Like It's Starting to Take Shape
The most recent community update from Camelot Unchained points to some progress as the game looks like it's starting to take shape.
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I'll watch the gameplay vids, sure, but I'm not hyping myself up for something that may not launch for many years or at all. (Or backing it)
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EQ2 and SWG (mmorpg golden years)
to
WoW and SWG:L (today)
To me wow is as close to EQ2 (04-08 rip), as one can get minus the depth ofc.
However after the shakeout vid and turns out good.
Pantheon and SWG:L
”I’ll talk about the delays from 2013-July 2019 because if I talk about after that both Covid and FS:R come into play and I really, really don’t want to go into both again especially since the same incorrect, fact-ignoring statements will be made by certain people.
1) The first speed bump we hit was hiring. Andrew and I thought it would be easier to recruit folks than it turned out to be. With the flow of money and talent into mobile and then VR, it was a lot harder than we expected. We didn’t want to open a remote studio but when we found the right person to do so, we opened the Seattle studio. As you know, when we were in Virginia only we were a smaller team than we were within just a few months after opening the Seattle office.
2) The multiple refactoring of the ability system. We had to refactor that twice and that cost us a lot of time and money. As always, I won’t throw anybody under the bus as to why it had to be refactored twice, but it did. We failed as a team to execute on that core system, period. The one that is in there now is working great, even under test load.
3) Linuxification – While the majority of this work happened after July, we had started work on that months before that when we moved to the newer .NET Core (https://massivelyop.com/2019/06/03/camelot-unchained-upgrades-tools-works-on-ui-and-siege-equipment-as-beta-one-marches-on/). Obviously, that expanded to full Linuxification and when you have a tech stack as complicated as ours, it’s not the same as moving a simple program from Windows -> Linux.
4) Degree of difficulty – Building the engine took us longer than we thought it would, especially with a small team. Add a server-based physics system, DIY building system with real-time server/physics/stability system, complicated ability system and 500+ people in a battle, it added up to a lot longer path to sucess.
Now, those are some of the reasons for the delays. However, to answer the other part of the question, it’s emerging now because we have had more time to work on gameplay, animations, etc. because of the tech problems we have solved. And if we get into July, the extra money that the investors, including me, put into the company has allowed us to hire more engineers/artists/designers than we would have had otherwise. That has started to translate into more gameplay and fun stuff. Also, we had a new senior engineer start today, hopefully 2 more engineers in a week or so, and a senior producer after that. All of this is thanks to the investors who both kept their faith in CU, not just FS:R, by putting more money into the company.”
https://massivelyop.com/2020/09/01/camelot-unchained-promises-that-a-game-is-starting-to-emerge/
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Warhammer Online private server scaled back the vertical a bit from live version (no level 100 op), so almost anybody can get there and it's not too op between end gear and rvr gear.
DAOC.. didnt that have some vertical too?
I think some vertical is ok, as long as its attainable and marginable (e.g. 5% or so). We know a lot of players like to chase carrots and meta.
Personally, I'm with you either horizontal or slight vertical.
I am torn on vertical vs horizontal progress. I love setting out to obtain a new piece of gear I have been working towards, either by saving up in game currency/trade or doing the runs until I get it, it drives me to keep playing, acquiring wealth. At the same time, I hate being roffle stomped by the elites who have the top tier best in slot stuff that is unobtainable by 90% of the player base. That drives off new players, who are too far behind to get caught up and compete.
The power gaps isn't as much of an issue and people complaining about them(drives off new players, much better for newbies to catch up,etc. ) are people with "loser mindset" - they will always put blame on someone or something, there is no way to please them.
Something out of Darkfall or Mortal Online.
So my assumption is that rather than put it into the game and waiting years to see a return on the investment they made some deal to make some quick game in return for the money.
So here is why i can't stand these crowd funded type ventures.I am sure that money was not from the donator's but from some investor.HOWEVER there is nothing stopping Mark from attaining investors and loads of money BEHIND the backs of the people who helped him get this started.
Ok so maybe i didn't make myself clear.
Think of it like this,he needs and tells backers he needs let's say 10 million.A year later an investor gives him 15 million.See where this is leading,he no longer needs your money but you know what,i think i'll keep it anyway.
I am not saying this is what has happened but the possibility is ALWAYS there.it is important because then you ask WHY didn't you get an investor in the first place instead of taking our money?So this leads us to basically what happened to COE,he was USING people to get a product to showcase to investors.
The difference is investors get owed a financial kickback however in your case your owed NOTHING<thanks for your money ...suckers.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
There is a right way and a scummy way to do business and these crowd funded devs are EXPLOITING people and their goodwill.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
It is a person's mindset, not a game issue.
What actually for real does drive people away is the opposite - the lack of vertical progression.
'But don't forget guys mobile is not effecting your games on the PC or console'. Well at least I don't have to keep telling posters on here what drivel that is now, mobile car crashed into our gaming platforms.
Mind you I don't mind about VR it is the future even if it is not quite there yet for me.
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