Dual Universe Open Beta Preview

System · September 2020

Dual Universe Open Beta Preview

Mitch hops into the long-awaited open beta of Dual Universe, giving his thoughts on the persistent universe space MMO.

Viper482 · September 2020

There are several default shapes to use and these can all be scaled in size. There are several additional tools to quickly make other shapes, like the line tool to create angles and the smoothing tool to round off any rough edges. Portions of voxels can be embedded inside other blocks and, with the addition of prefabricated elements, anyone with a bit of artistic vision (not me, a Borg cube would be my masterpiece) could put together a visually stunning building or spaceship.

Game will be full of fleets and cities of penis shaped spaceships and buildings.....I would say "calling it now" if it were not so obvious.

IsilithTehroth · September 2020

The game when I tried it was so, so bad. I and like 4 other people that tried it at the point refunded after seeing how utterly horrible the game is.

Theocritus · September 2020

"Portions of voxels can be embedded inside other blocks"

Voxels? I'm out

Splattr · September 2020

Theocritus said:

"Portions of voxels can be embedded inside other blocks"

Voxels? I'm out

I know voxels aren't for everyone but this is the best implementation I have seen. In the right hands the toolset they have provided can be used to great effect when building ship's and buildings. As for ground deformation it is pretty much like No Man's Sky.

Tiller · September 2020

It's kind of a mess right now. Mass amounts of crashing. Honestly I kind of fear that we will see worse and worse lag due to never being able to get good optimization as more and more people get in and start building stuff. If anyone remembers SWG Dantooine on any server leaving Pirate outpost and being hit by mass lag due to all the buildings and harvesters, NPC that's what it will be like, but worse. I do like the skills training, a lot like EVE, but building and creating is the only fun thing so far. I can't imagine trying to PvP in this game at the moment, and PvP will be the only combat available.

Grimula · September 2020

Voxels equals Bad optimization all the time ?

What has been the Best Voxel based game ? that isnt a Mess and runs smooth ??

No idea

Avanah · September 2020

Pay for Beta.
Ummm....

No Thanks.

Ir1shguy · September 2020

I dont see open beta anywhere I see pay a subscription to play beta, pretty glaring difference there unless its hidden somewhere else other than behind the Join Beta button.

Sovrath · September 2020

Ir1shguy said:

I dont see open beta anywhere I see pay a subscription to play beta, pretty glaring difference there unless its hidden somewhere else other than behind the Join Beta button.

It's a good point.

Looking up what exactly an "open beta" means it still can be considered an "open beta." However, it does require you financially support the studio.

Closed beta is by invitation to a small group of people. Open beta is for a larger group of people/people who are interested.

So if a large group of people are interested in paying in order to support the studio and get into the beta they can.

There is no "limit" as far as who the group is or how large it is.

Gdemami · September 2020

Ir1shguy said:

I dont see open beta anywhere I see pay a subscription to play beta, pretty glaring difference there unless its hidden somewhere else other than behind the Join Beta button.

Open test does not mean free.

It only means the access is open for everyone contrary to closed test where access is restricted to selected group or individuals.

Groqstrong · September 2020

Gdemami said:

Ir1shguy said:

I dont see open beta anywhere I see pay a subscription to play beta, pretty glaring difference there unless its hidden somewhere else other than behind the Join Beta button.

Open test does not mean free.

It only means the access is open for everyone contrary to closed test where access is restricted to selected group or individuals.

I disagree, historically open beta meant free. To play before release with a fee would be considered early access.

Sovrath · September 2020

Groqstrong said:

Gdemami said:

Ir1shguy said:

I dont see open beta anywhere I see pay a subscription to play beta, pretty glaring difference there unless its hidden somewhere else other than behind the Join Beta button.

Open test does not mean free.

It only means the access is open for everyone contrary to closed test where access is restricted to selected group or individuals.

I disagree, historically open beta meant free. To play before release with a fee would be considered early access.

That might be what video game companies did but that's not what it means.

Tiller · September 2020

BTW that mining glitch is present in certain simulation tubes, if one simulation tube is bad, try a different one. That's what I did and got it finished.

Ir1shguy · September 2020

Sovrath said:

Groqstrong said:

Gdemami said:

Ir1shguy said:

I dont see open beta anywhere I see pay a subscription to play beta, pretty glaring difference there unless its hidden somewhere else other than behind the Join Beta button.

Open test does not mean free.

It only means the access is open for everyone contrary to closed test where access is restricted to selected group or individuals.

I disagree, historically open beta meant free. To play before release with a fee would be considered early access.

That might be what video game companies did but that's not what it means.

Open beta has always meant open to everyone. Slapping a subscription fee onto it closes it off for those that cant afford it.

Gdemami · September 2020

Groqstrong said:
I disagree, historically open beta meant free.

It didn't, it always had the same meaning, the one I described above.

Open test and Free just aren't mutually exclusive - open test can be free but it does not imply it must be free, they are independent of each other.

HazenXIII · September 2020

If you have to pay to access an open beta, it's not OPEN. Period... Both historically in the video game industry and logically. "Open" in this sense means unconditional (i.e. free, available to everyone, without restriction, etc.). If you have to pay to access a beta, that is very much conditional, not free, not available to everyone, and with restriction.

Any time a payment has been necessary to participate in an open beta has been to get access to said beta earlier than others with a future date set where anyone and everyone can participate (basically what the Avengers game just did: pre-order to play the beta early with open beta for everyone on XX date)

Tiller · September 2020

We really gonna argue over the definition of of open beta? Look it's open beta to anyone willing to throw down some cash, how about that?

Tiller · September 2020

tzervo said:

Tiller said:

We really gonna argue over the definition of of open beta? Look it's open beta to anyone willing to throw down some cash, how about that?

Nah you put open and cash in the same sentence, people are still gonna scream at you :P

When you say a store is open, it don't mean everything in it is free lol.

gamergoddess40 · September 2020

so when can i play the beta how do i get to it

Tiller · September 2020

gamergoddess40 said:

so when can i play the beta how do i get to it

You can play it right now

https://www.dualuniverse.game/buy

Tiller · September 2020

tzervo said:

Tiller said:

tzervo said:

Tiller said:

We really gonna argue over the definition of of open beta? Look it's open beta to anyone willing to throw down some cash, how about that?

Nah you put open and cash in the same sentence, people are still gonna scream at you :P

When you say a store is open, it don't mean everything in it is free lol.

I don't disagree with you Check my previous post.

lol yeah I got that. I was just backing up your statement.

Morgenes83 · September 2020

The term open beta is from a time where developers had the honor to not charge people for testing their game.

And this is why for me open and closed is only determined by the amount of people who can participate.
Closed = Only open for a selected amount of users.
Open = Open for everyone who wants to join as soon as he fulfills the participation requirements (Account, connection, Hardware needed (e.g. VR), User activated (which might imply a subscription))

@topic
I dont mind bugs or unfinished state. I just want to play a Universe-Simulation where everything is as close as possible to reality. (most sandbox).
The size of the universe is secondary, the sandbox features are more important.

What should I concentrate on?
- Dual Universe
- Star Citizen
- Elite Dangerous
- Empyrion

Nanbino · September 2020

Groqstrong said:

Gdemami said:

Ir1shguy said:

I dont see open beta anywhere I see pay a subscription to play beta, pretty glaring difference there unless its hidden somewhere else other than behind the Join Beta button.

Open test does not mean free.

It only means the access is open for everyone contrary to closed test where access is restricted to selected group or individuals.

I disagree, historically open beta meant free. To play before release with a fee would be considered early access.

No where has it ever meant free. You are, like me at first, confusing this game to be F2P. Don't confuse a "F2P" vocabulary with "open beta", OB is a development status, F2P is a businessman model.

Vrika · September 2020

Morgenes83 said:

@topic
I dont mind bugs or unfinished state. I just want to play a Universe-Simulation where everything is as close as possible to reality. (most sandbox).
The size of the universe is secondary, the sandbox features are more important.

What should I concentrate on?
- Dual Universe
- Star Citizen
- Elite Dangerous
- Empyrion

I'd recommend either EVE Online or X4: Foundations, they do what you want much better than any game on your list.

Vrika · September 2020

Groqstrong said:

Gdemami said:

Ir1shguy said:

I dont see open beta anywhere I see pay a subscription to play beta, pretty glaring difference there unless its hidden somewhere else other than behind the Join Beta button.

Open test does not mean free.

It only means the access is open for everyone contrary to closed test where access is restricted to selected group or individuals.

I disagree, historically open beta meant free. To play before release with a fee would be considered early access.

There are two ways to use term "open beta":

One means that devs give free access to the beta. Second means that devs open the beta up for general public, as opposed to closed beta that was only for more limited audience.

Dual Universe was already open to anyone who pays in their closed beta stage so their open beta does not mean that. It's also not a free beta phase. In Dual Universe's case the open beta should be taken to mean beta without NDA, as opposed to earlier phases that had NDA.

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