Unfortunately over the past years WoW's player base has a toxic segment that seems to be growing. All games have toxic players and WoW is no exception, at times it feels like they have more than just their share.
Just because I'm a gamer doesn't mean I drive a Honda.
Tools to do what? Put people on ignore? Yeah, like that's going to help.
In my experience putting people on ignore (the truly toxic ones anyway) just encourages their friends to jump on the bandwagon and whisper you about how they're going to rail your mother.
Free Hong Kong. 800 people fired in record revenue year. 40 million bonus for Bobby. Warcraft 3: Refunded. You think you do but you don't. Do you not have phones... etc etc
Yeah Activison Blizzard isn't just harassing us it's insulting us too.
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"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Instead of posting Blizzard's rhetoric,ask their reps if they understand how toxicity is created?Ask them if they believe that having a WINNING mindset,like rankings and Esport does not facilitate a hostile environment? Ask Blizzard if they value $$ over the FUN of gaming and having players work TOGETHER instead of against each other? I bet Blizzard could not answer ANY tough question because i KNOW their true stance and that is money trumps all,they would value $$$ over toxicity any day all day.
Do i need to remind people of Blizzard's true stance,when that Korean announcer was banned?A very large outcry became of that including a streamer i respect "Brian Kibler"who stepped away from Blizzard's money to stand up for what is right.
Blizzard's first official speech was what caught my eye the most.Blizzard claimed the most important thing to Blizzard was it's BRAND.The use of the term BRAND is a very careful choice and really shows where they stand on humanity.They did NOT say they cared more about morals or ethics but carefully stated their BRAND was the important virtue to them.
So when a developer says THEIR brand is more important than humanity itself,it tells me they are lead by very ignorant people.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Excellent. Like real life. A bunch of sheeple crying for censorship, like salty commies. Had they any brain cells, or if education didn't fail millennials, you'd see there are millions of ways to control your account and profile. Most people lack comprehension and default to a big daddy scenario where they think playing victim and censorship will give them a safe space. P.s. no.
I grew up with wow in a day we exchanged armor to try in with strangers based on trust. Then the trolls came and would run off with our hard earned armor.
They guys posing as women to hit on virgin nerds, that would pay for their account, power level, then the "woman" turns out to be a 16 yr old Canadian boy that says "thanks but I'm not Sarah, and I'm off to a new server". (True story, they guy spend hundreds of dollars and personal time getting the best gear for his "gf")).
It's a choice. Your choice to just block them, and their friends, even if it's hundred friends...how is opening a menu and pressing block hard in games with skill rotations, craft and puzzle content, grind where you sit for days pressing 1,2,3,4... Your mouse buttons wearing down ... But you can't press block for a dude and his two bros xD.
Seriously, good job blizz. Don't fall for the fake "harassment" crap.
Real more important issues exist that have way bigger impact on the quality of this game. Lol. It's like wow just launched and it's 1995 , and everyone's a net noob. Grow up
Perfect example, two posts under this, a fake news article on toxic culture. A bunch of BS and crying for some agenda to kill off independent thinking . Racist like censorship: the author on this site TURNED OFF comments. So you get an eye full of his BS., But your voiceless. They aren't here to learn or love or understand or be equals. It's about money, control. Sad really.
Tools to do what? Put people on ignore? Yeah, like that's going to help.
In my experience putting people on ignore (the truly toxic ones anyway) just encourages their friends to jump on the bandwagon and whisper you about how they're going to rail your mother.
Lol what?
Anyway, beside /ignore playername , i don't see the need of other "tools".
I mean why is it that hard to use that command? I saw and still see lots QQs of players posting screen shots with an ..harassed conversation. And by that I mean lots of )(#@*&@ lines. WHY? The first time you see a word and/or line which you don't like USE that command and move on. Simple.
Oh, he has multiple accounts and/or he puts "friends" to PM you? Right Click , Report then /ignore WITHOUT reading whatever the fuck he said. Yes, is easy to ignore the said line and not read it. I did it many times and not because i felt ...harassed, but I was like "....whatever" , /ignore .
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy? Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
After clicking the link to the original post all I'm wondering is why a generic Nov 2018 WOW customer support post about ignore tools and the same no naming and shaming on forums policy they've always had, news here in September 2020?
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The only time this is an issue is when they can crash your game like in Everquest they could do it if a person is on ignore and they stand before and emote like mad it would crash your game.
In that case I reported the guy to a GM.
In WoW I simply don't read tells or chat if it is from the troll. Is it so difficult not to read what is clearly a message you can cheerfully not read and make the person sending it even angrier because you aren't even bothering to put them on 'ignore'. That is the ultimate insult that they aren't even worth an ignore.
People get too upset with things when the solution is so simple. DON'T READ!!
These instructions seem a lot like "warning, coffee may be hot" , "do not touch stove element or it may burn you" or "danger, do not climb into the lion enclave, you might be eaten."
Do people really need detailed instructions on common sense?
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I love how the verbal context of the game means more than the visual. Pretty much remove a line because of one word, yet in BfA there's kids looking at their dead fathers impaled on walls in stormsong valley as well as kids in cages.
When I see comments like these on MMORPG.com, then I know the genre truly is gone.
I've played MMORPG's since 2001. You used to have GM's that would moderate chat, not that they needed to. I pugged all the time to camp for levels (no quests), to RvR, to raid, and to do whatever else. I was never harassed by other gamers in PUG's or in Guilds.
WoW truly does have a bad unmoderated community. You all talking about thicker skin, "just put them on ignore," and so on are missing the point. The point is you shouldn't have to do any of that. You didn't use to have to, due to people naturally being respectful, and you shouldn't have to now. Create a Code of Conduct, hire GM's and Moderators, and enforce it. Just like any other public place, people will become more civil. That's the point, you shouldn't have to go out of your way to be surrounded by civil people. The more you have to take your focus from the game and having fun to combat the rude and trollish behavior, the less it's even worth playing that game.
I've always found WoW to have a garbage community overall, which is why I've never been able to settle down in that game the way I did in DAoC and SWG. I have found some good guilds and ran one myself, but the PUG scene and most guilds are truly toxic.
Before you say that's just MMORPG communities in general, it really isn't. I recently loaded up DAOC after 15 years of not playing it, created a new character, and within 20 min in some new people zone they created, me and another person were helping each other and communicating via chat to overcome a particular problem we were both having. In WoW? People are rushing as fast as they can through a dungeon, and woe unto you if you stop to loot, don't wear heirlooms, stop to grab a quest item, or have low dps because you can't finish a cast.
In FF14, great community. Rolled a couple of tanks, people knew I was new due to the new player system they have in game, and people would offer advice on bosses or pathing. In WoW? "You don't know the dungeon? *kick* "You don't know the optimum path?" *kick*
WoW has a very fluid combat system, some good questing experiences, and artistic zones that are a true pleasure to quest through. Dungeons are well made if you even get a chance to look at them, with how fast groups run through them. But the community, overall, is another level of bad and I'm glad they mostly stick to WoW.
Tools to do what? Put people on ignore? Yeah, like that's going to help.
In my experience putting people on ignore (the truly toxic ones anyway) just encourages their friends to jump on the bandwagon and whisper you about how they're going to rail your mother.
Lol what?
Anyway, beside /ignore playername , i don't see the need of other "tools".
I mean why is it that hard to use that command? I saw and still see lots QQs of players posting screen shots with an ..harassed conversation. And by that I mean lots of )(#@*&@ lines. WHY? The first time you see a word and/or line which you don't like USE that command and move on. Simple.
Oh, he has multiple accounts and/or he puts "friends" to PM you? Right Click , Report then /ignore WITHOUT reading whatever the fuck he said. Yes, is easy to ignore the said line and not read it. I did it many times and not because i felt ...harassed, but I was like "....whatever" , /ignore .
Ah yes, the classic "If a crazy person harasses you its your own fault" mentality. I'm sure you're 100% correct and that your logic isn't at all backwards.
Tools to do what? Put people on ignore? Yeah, like that's going to help.
In my experience putting people on ignore (the truly toxic ones anyway) just encourages their friends to jump on the bandwagon and whisper you about how they're going to rail your mother.
Lol what?
Anyway, beside /ignore playername , i don't see the need of other "tools".
I mean why is it that hard to use that command? I saw and still see lots QQs of players posting screen shots with an ..harassed conversation. And by that I mean lots of )(#@*&@ lines. WHY? The first time you see a word and/or line which you don't like USE that command and move on. Simple.
Oh, he has multiple accounts and/or he puts "friends" to PM you? Right Click , Report then /ignore WITHOUT reading whatever the fuck he said. Yes, is easy to ignore the said line and not read it. I did it many times and not because i felt ...harassed, but I was like "....whatever" , /ignore .
Ah yes, the classic "If a crazy person harasses you its your own fault" mentality. I'm sure you're 100% correct and that your logic isn't at all backwards.
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In my experience putting people on ignore (the truly toxic ones anyway) just encourages their friends to jump on the bandwagon and whisper you about how they're going to rail your mother.
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Yeah Activison Blizzard isn't just harassing us it's insulting us too.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/Ask Blizzard if they value $$ over the FUN of gaming and having players work TOGETHER instead of against each other?
I bet Blizzard could not answer ANY tough question because i KNOW their true stance and that is money trumps all,they would value $$$ over toxicity any day all day.
Do i need to remind people of Blizzard's true stance,when that Korean announcer was banned?A very large outcry became of that including a streamer i respect "Brian Kibler"who stepped away from Blizzard's money to stand up for what is right.
Blizzard's first official speech was what caught my eye the most.Blizzard claimed the most important thing to Blizzard was it's BRAND.The use of the term BRAND is a very careful choice and really shows where they stand on humanity.They did NOT say they cared more about morals or ethics but carefully stated their BRAND was the important virtue to them.
So when a developer says THEIR brand is more important than humanity itself,it tells me they are lead by very ignorant people.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
At least, that is how I read it.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
I grew up with wow in a day we exchanged armor to try in with strangers based on trust. Then the trolls came and would run off with our hard earned armor.
They guys posing as women to hit on virgin nerds, that would pay for their account, power level, then the "woman" turns out to be a 16 yr old Canadian boy that says "thanks but I'm not Sarah, and I'm off to a new server". (True story, they guy spend hundreds of dollars and personal time getting the best gear for his "gf")).
It's a choice. Your choice to just block them, and their friends, even if it's hundred friends...how is opening a menu and pressing block hard in games with skill rotations, craft and puzzle content, grind where you sit for days pressing 1,2,3,4... Your mouse buttons wearing down ... But you can't press block for a dude and his two bros xD.
Seriously, good job blizz. Don't fall for the fake "harassment" crap.
Real more important issues exist that have way bigger impact on the quality of this game. Lol. It's like wow just launched and it's 1995 , and everyone's a net noob. Grow up
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/Now that's progress.
Lol what?
Anyway, beside /ignore playername , i don't see the need of other "tools".
I mean why is it that hard to use that command? I saw and still see lots QQs of players posting screen shots with an ..harassed conversation. And by that I mean lots of )(#@*&@ lines. WHY? The first time you see a word and/or line which you don't like USE that command and move on. Simple.
Oh, he has multiple accounts and/or he puts "friends" to PM you? Right Click , Report then /ignore WITHOUT reading whatever the fuck he said. Yes, is easy to ignore the said line and not read it. I did it many times and not because i felt ...harassed, but I was like "....whatever" , /ignore .
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
"Your feels don't matter"
Cersei Lanister
now..if you feel insulted or harassed by someone in a chat, then GROW THICKER SKIN YOU PUSSY!
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
In that case I reported the guy to a GM.
In WoW I simply don't read tells or chat if it is from the troll. Is it so difficult not to read what is clearly a message you can cheerfully not read and make the person sending it even angrier because you aren't even bothering to put them on 'ignore'. That is the ultimate insult that they aren't even worth an ignore.
People get too upset with things when the solution is so simple. DON'T READ!!
Do people really need detailed instructions on common sense?
I guess so, but still... really?
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I've played MMORPG's since 2001. You used to have GM's that would moderate chat, not that they needed to. I pugged all the time to camp for levels (no quests), to RvR, to raid, and to do whatever else. I was never harassed by other gamers in PUG's or in Guilds.
WoW truly does have a bad unmoderated community. You all talking about thicker skin, "just put them on ignore," and so on are missing the point. The point is you shouldn't have to do any of that. You didn't use to have to, due to people naturally being respectful, and you shouldn't have to now. Create a Code of Conduct, hire GM's and Moderators, and enforce it. Just like any other public place, people will become more civil. That's the point, you shouldn't have to go out of your way to be surrounded by civil people. The more you have to take your focus from the game and having fun to combat the rude and trollish behavior, the less it's even worth playing that game.
I've always found WoW to have a garbage community overall, which is why I've never been able to settle down in that game the way I did in DAoC and SWG. I have found some good guilds and ran one myself, but the PUG scene and most guilds are truly toxic.
Before you say that's just MMORPG communities in general, it really isn't. I recently loaded up DAOC after 15 years of not playing it, created a new character, and within 20 min in some new people zone they created, me and another person were helping each other and communicating via chat to overcome a particular problem we were both having. In WoW? People are rushing as fast as they can through a dungeon, and woe unto you if you stop to loot, don't wear heirlooms, stop to grab a quest item, or have low dps because you can't finish a cast.
In FF14, great community. Rolled a couple of tanks, people knew I was new due to the new player system they have in game, and people would offer advice on bosses or pathing. In WoW? "You don't know the dungeon? *kick* "You don't know the optimum path?" *kick*
WoW has a very fluid combat system, some good questing experiences, and artistic zones that are a true pleasure to quest through. Dungeons are well made if you even get a chance to look at them, with how fast groups run through them. But the community, overall, is another level of bad and I'm glad they mostly stick to WoW.