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Amazon Game Studios is Hiring for a New Unannounced Game

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited September 2020 in News & Features Discussion

imageAmazon Game Studios is Hiring for a New Unannounced Game

John Smedley of Sony Online Entertainment and Daybreak fame, and more recently, head of Amazon Game Studios in San Diego, tweeted the news that AGS has quite a few positions open for an unannounced game. The game does not have anything to do with the current MMO in production, New World, which is set to release next year.

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  • OshrycOshryc Member UncommonPosts: 153
    Blah Smedley sucks Donkey balls.
    Tokken[Deleted User][Deleted User]bobbymcswansonachesomaSamhaelNordicApache
  • TokkenTokken Member EpicPosts: 3,649
    Please let it be a MMORPG!
    BruceYee[Deleted User]xpsync

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  • DarkVagabondDarkVagabond Member UncommonPosts: 340
    Oh boy Smedley.
    ScotxpsyncNordicApache
  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member EpicPosts: 2,556
    When Amazon fully releases their launcher please put a completed Hero's Song on there.

    Thanks
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    "Our job to make bold bets".
    He left Soe making that half assed H1 Z1 game and a half assed Landmark that was simply a cash grab.

    He is not about making bold moves,he is about CHEAP unfinished cash grabs.

    So what can we expect....a cash shop "most certainly" unfinished game "most certainly",NEW ideas,most likely not.

    My guess,a 2 year project "if that".

    There is no money in a mmorpg right now and besides,would you really want a mmorpg model based on a cash shop f2p model?

    I know Smedley was talking about Mobile when he entered DBG but idk that market is very scummy and would land Amazon in a lot of hot water.It will have to have LOOT as that is the common carrot used,can we guess at something similar to yet another BR?
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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    How about they finish the one first (two, but they stopped talking about that other one since it bombed on release/beta)? Honestly, them working on 3 games at once was what caused their current problem of nothing still coming out yet. If they focused their efforts on one (2 max), get some credibility as a studio that can actually get a GOOD title across the finish line, then they could worry about more projects. The only way I'd support this 'new title' is if its single player, just for them to showcase that they can actually make a competent product. Sure, they have more money than anything, but they still have failed twice (3 if you consider new world being completely restructured almost 3 times since its alpha).
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  • TokkenTokken Member EpicPosts: 3,649
    BruceYee said:
    When Amazon fully releases their launcher please put a completed Hero's Song on there.

    Thanks
    I would be happy if they were making Hero's Song again!
    TacticalZombeh

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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671

    bigmilk said:


    Albatroes said:

    Sure, they have more money than anything, but they still have failed twice (3 if you consider new world being completely restructured almost 3 times since its alpha).


    (1) Breakaway - Cancelled. It looked and played like a WoW Warsong Gulch Battleground trying to be an eSport
    (2) Crucible - Returned to closed beta after 6 years of Development and a problematic release May 2020. Originally it was supposed to be like the game Darwin Project, but that changed since it was announced in 2016. Darwin Project released in Early Access April 2018. Crucible plans on removing 2 of its 3 game modes during its return to closed beta.
    (3) New World - Delayed and reworked multiple times. Why should we expect a different result with this title than what we have seen with the other two?

    Meanwhile, Jorb and Loftar aka Seatribe have developed 2 fascinating indie MMO's on their own since 2009. Haven and Hearth, and Salem. 



    I mean, I'm not saying I don't want them to suceed, but they are like that super talented kid probably everyone knew at school or in their family that could do anything, but just could never dedicate themselves to anything past a certain period of time until they got bored.

    The other side to all of this is that all 3 of the titles were originally designed with Twitch as the large focus, creating things with viewer power in mind. A mmorpg really can't do that and isn't really the most in-engaging thing to watch after a while, so they're probably trying to find a FPS or something they can make with breakaway's assets to flip into a watcher.
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  • PurplePepePurplePepe Member UncommonPosts: 122
    So they haven't yet released a successful game, and Amazon hired Smedley to start a third? He's too busy Tweeting about politics to focus on creating a full and complete game. Given his history driving SOE/Daybreak into the ground and a failed independent try, this doesn't bode well for Amazon Games.

    People like John Smedley are the reason why Kickstarter for PC games has become so popular and necessary.
    [Deleted User]AlomarMustikosNordicApache
  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member EpicPosts: 2,556
    Wizardry said:
    "Our job to make bold bets".
    He left Soe making that half assed H1 Z1 game and a half assed Landmark that was simply a cash grab.

    He is not about making bold moves,he is about CHEAP unfinished cash grabs.

    So what can we expect....a cash shop "most certainly" unfinished game "most certainly",NEW ideas,most likely not.

    My guess,a 2 year project "if that".

    There is no money in a mmorpg right now and besides,would you really want a mmorpg model based on a cash shop f2p model?

    I know Smedley was talking about Mobile when he entered DBG but idk that market is very scummy and would land Amazon in a lot of hot water.It will have to have LOOT as that is the common carrot used,can we guess at something similar to yet another BR?

    Landmark had THE BEST building tools I've ever used in any voxel game. The only limits to what you could create was your plot size and imagination.

    Whatever game he makes if it's mobile or PC should go back to ancient SOE roots before he started chasing trends. PS2, H1Z1, NGE was all trend chasing and when SOE started going down. Make a dungeon crawl turn based card game or something that brings that classic vibe back into gaming. An MMORPG with even the most basic graphics but with vast worlds and deep progression systems would be a ___ slap to modern gaming and definitely make news. It could even be their whole marketing angle when you think about it >> "The game your father would play" "Definitely your father's MMO".
    [Deleted User]Daranar
  • KaliGoldKaliGold Member UncommonPosts: 138
    He isn't talking about Lord Of The Rings is he? I thought that news was already announced.
  • DeathtognomesDeathtognomes Member UncommonPosts: 155
    edited September 2020
    as much as I blame smedley for all the unnecessary time sinks that created a false sense of accomplishments, he does know how to create a fun MMO, and also create an atmosphere of hate and animosity towards the same MMO.

    Too often he has said he knows what players wants but fails to actually listen to them. He is a complete asshole to players that speak up or speak their mind, otherwise he loves you to death as long as you role-play the sheep.

    Basically, Fuck him, wont touch another game thats had his paws on. He is the true source of dev hate.
    Gdemami[Deleted User]
  • HazenXIIIHazenXIII Member UncommonPosts: 163
    Anything Smedley touches turns to shit. I'm still salty about SWG.
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  • mussolinimussolini Member UncommonPosts: 200
    Thats just a hiring tweet about a future project but haters already here, blaming for an mmor, for an arpg, for everything. LoL. How I love todays community.
    GdemamiDistopiask8chalifRovn
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,427
    Err Smedley is in charge? Ok I am not saying that's a brand of doom, but it does explain a lot about New World.
    xpsyncNordicApache
  • vicentesoulvicentesoul Member UncommonPosts: 49
    Already planning a new game because of the new world fiasco and all the money theyll get because of hype :)
    GdemamiScot
  • PortzPortz Member UncommonPosts: 118
    I really hope it's Bezos Online
    Truvidienn
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    edited September 2020
    Darn, seems like the position of Armchair Developer is already filled...

     :/ 
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  • shipcommandershipcommander Member UncommonPosts: 24
    Who the fuck hired him and put him in charge of Amazon Game Studios?!
    NordicApache
  • xpsyncxpsync Member EpicPosts: 1,854
    Smed, love him or hate him, but for me he was always part of the fun of playing EQ2 (2004 to 2008) and SWG. There was always so much daily SOE drama with him at helm always stirring the pot just right.

    Sure everything turned to crap, but i'm sure back then although he was in charge, he was charged with the brass's wow mentality which was to make game super simple, stupid easy and people will just buy in the millions.

    One can only hope this is a new mmorpg.
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  • sycogenesissycogenesis Member UncommonPosts: 86
    It's not not viable that its another mmo, but they already have 2 mmorpgs on their docket list.

    Publishing Lost Ark

    Developing New World
  • IsilithTehrothIsilithTehroth Member RarePosts: 616
    Gross Smed ruins any good designs his mmorpg teams make for the sake of what is popular or what could potentially make more money(not that it does). So many great ideas or first iterations of games that got ruined under his leadership(SWG, UO,Planetside>Planetside 2. It was always the talent around Smedly that propelled his career and SOE not his judgement. Hate to see a new AAA studio with Amazon's capital go down the drain, but with these games they released that are utterly abysmal and Smed's "Leadership"; I think this studio is gonna tank quick and hard.

    I pray that Amazon doesn't get the new LOTR mmorpg because they can't even make a simple team based fps right; let alone a complex mmorpg. New world is just a wreck and only die hard PVErs will play it at launch and quit a week or 2 after because there is nothing to do in game except ponder why an ancient version's mechanics promoting full loot and pvp anywhere mentality are still the core basis the game is being developed behind with nothing reedeming to make up for the bad decisions.
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  • ValentinaValentina Member RarePosts: 2,108

    bigmilk said:


    Albatroes said:

    Sure, they have more money than anything, but they still have failed twice (3 if you consider new world being completely restructured almost 3 times since its alpha).


    (1) Breakaway - Cancelled. It looked and played like a WoW Warsong Gulch Battleground trying to be an eSport
    (2) Crucible - Returned to closed beta after 6 years of Development and a problematic release May 2020. Originally it was supposed to be like the game Darwin Project, but that changed since it was announced in 2016. Darwin Project released in Early Access April 2018. Crucible plans on removing 2 of its 3 game modes during its return to closed beta.
    (3) New World - Delayed and reworked multiple times. Why should we expect a different result with this title than what we have seen with the other two?

    Meanwhile, Jorb and Loftar aka Seatribe have developed 2 fascinating indie MMO's on their own since 2009. Haven and Hearth, and Salem. 



    Welcome to game development! I guarantee every single company you like the games of have developed and shelved more games than you realize, as that is the nature of the business. Amazon Games has recruited a very large pool of very talented developers, eventually something is bound to work. New World is shaping up to be a really fun game, their delays have made sense and worked out for the better each time.
    Gdemami
  • PuReDusTPuReDusT Member UncommonPosts: 21
    Not Smerdley again pls
  • sdyaris96sdyaris96 Member UncommonPosts: 22
    I wish they'd let Smedley publish Heroes Song.
    TokkenTacticalZombehPurplePepe
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