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Genshin Impact Officially Launches In The West, Gets New Gameplay Trailer | MMORPG.com

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Genshin Impact, the open-world action game from miHoYo, has officially launched in the West on PlayStation 4, Windows, Android and iOS devices. The game draws heavily from Nintendo's The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild for inspiration, with some even caling it a Zelda clone at one point.

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    edited September 2020
    Hmm I was not even going to check this out because I figured more junk but I see some positives with this game.
    I like pretty much everything I see except two problems.

    1 Single player games no longer cut it for me because they are like 30-60 hours of game play and it is done.Also the idea behind single player games is to BEAT the game,again not something I want from gaming.Single player games are also mostly linear,pushing you forward never to immerse in the world.

    2 The color in the graphics is not so good ,too many cartoon graphic games.If they change the graphics to look mature and a better palette than the 8 bit palette and I would buy this game.
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  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584

    Wizardry said:

    Hmm I was not even going to check this out because I figured more junk but I see some positives with this game.

    I like pretty much everything I see except two problems.



    1 Single player games no longer cut it for me because they are like 30-60 hours of game play and it is done.Also the idea behind single player games is to BEAT the game,again not something I want from gaming.Single player games are also mostly linear,pushing you forward never to immerse in the world.



    2 The color in the graphics is not so good ,too many cartoon graphic games.If they change the graphics to look mature and a better palette than the 8 bit palette and I would buy this game.



    its a gacha game, who have a copy system of breath of wild, mechs and graphics
    FOR HONOR, FOR FREEDOM.... and for some money.
  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    Crossplay between pc, console and mobile is awesome
    [Deleted User]Valdheim
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    Its unfortunate that they went with the gacha system, since the game itself actually feels high quality compared to other games on the market atm. If you're okay with RNG dictating how 'powerful' you'll get, then this game should be okay. Its at least worth playing through for the story which you can do pretty easily with the starter characters.
    [Deleted User]
  • vegetableoilvegetableoil Member RarePosts: 768
    it is quite impressive, you can climb mountains, trees, walls, I haven't hit any invis wall, and also the element system is interesting. If you caught on fire you can just go into water to put out the fire, but so far the game plays like a single player games, I often ask my self is this an mmo?
    Pirraya
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,618
    Eh another reroll frenzy Gacha game then?

    Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.





  • koldmiserkoldmiser Member RarePosts: 353
    Their download servers suck!
    SailorMomKayless
  • foxgirlfoxgirl Member RarePosts: 485
    People crying about it be being a BOTW clone, but overlooking the fact that it's free.
    PirrayaKaylessalkarionlogValentina
  • TwinzcloneTwinzclone Member UncommonPosts: 4
    I’m just not comfortable with a company I don’t know using kernel anti cheat. At least earlier today they fixed the anti cheat so it stops running on game exit and actually uninstalls when you uninstall the game. 
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    Torval said:
    Albatroes said:
    Its unfortunate that they went with the gacha system, since the game itself actually feels high quality compared to other games on the market atm. If you're okay with RNG dictating how 'powerful' you'll get, then this game should be okay. Its at least worth playing through for the story which you can do pretty easily with the starter characters.

    They had me at Zelda-like and crossplay. They immediately lost me at gacha. There are too many choices available to waste my time with that stuff.
    The gacha saddens me.
    [Deleted User]cheyane

  • oriya9oriya9 Member UncommonPosts: 65
    In my opinion, this is gacha done right.
    I'm still extremely against this monetization model and games designed around this practice (but hey, it prints them money), but at least this one is an ACTUAL GAME with ACTUAL GAMEPLAY.
    I was highly impressed by the quality of this game. Yet at the same time extremely disappointed by the gacha mechanics.
    I kind of wish this was a full blown MMORPG without all the typical gacha stuff.

    To summarize:
    Out of all the gacha games, this is probably the best one on the market right now.
    Still a gacha though, so definitely not for me.
    alkarionlogValdheim
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    edited September 2020
    oriya9 said:
    In my opinion, this is gacha done right.
    I'm still extremely against this monetization model and games designed around this practice (but hey, it prints them money), but at least this one is an ACTUAL GAME with ACTUAL GAMEPLAY.
    I was highly impressed by the quality of this game. Yet at the same time extremely disappointed by the gacha mechanics.
    I kind of wish this was a full blown MMORPG without all the typical gacha stuff.

    To summarize:
    Out of all the gacha games, this is probably the best one on the market right now.
    Still a gacha though, so definitely not for me.

    Like I said before, if people can accept that their 'progression' is tied to heavy RNG, with paying only giving you more chances at rolls vs actually getting the thing you want directly, then it definitely should be played, because the open world and the story are actually done very well when you compare it to many f2p games on the market atm.

    I know some people will defend the system due to the 'pity counter' but keep in mind that the only really way you can make your characters stronger in terms of skills etc is through duplicates, so....this game has a 90 roll counter to get a 5 star....so if it takes you have fun with that I guess. Keep in mind too that many of these games implement a 5 star to a 6 star system, yet they can't implement a 4 to a 5 star? Okay then....

    Going back to what I said though, if you can overlook the 'progression' system or at least not take it 'seriously' then its actually a really good game that you can co-op with friends as well. Base heros can clear through most of the content easily if you pick good cross-affinities (like lightning and ice, fire and lightning, etc....please don't do ice and water though, ice can work with water but not vice verse). Also Barbara is a really good healer hero which they are going to 'giveaway' once you hit adventure rank 20, so good time to start if you're wanting to.
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  • oriya9oriya9 Member UncommonPosts: 65
    edited September 2020

    Albatroes said:


    oriya9 said:

    In my opinion, this is gacha done right.

    I'm still extremely against this monetization model and games designed around this practice (but hey, it prints them money), but at least this one is an ACTUAL GAME with ACTUAL GAMEPLAY.

    I was highly impressed by the quality of this game. Yet at the same time extremely disappointed by the gacha mechanics.

    I kind of wish this was a full blown MMORPG without all the typical gacha stuff.



    To summarize:

    Out of all the gacha games, this is probably the best one on the market right now.

    Still a gacha though, so definitely not for me.



    Like I said before, if people can accept that their 'progression' is tied to heavy RNG, with paying only giving you more chances at rolls vs actually getting the thing you want directly, then it definitely should be played, because the open world and the story are actually done very well when you compare it to many f2p games on the market atm.

    I know some people will defend the system due to the 'pity counter' but keep in mind that the only really way you can make your characters stronger in terms of skills etc is through duplicates, so....this game has a 90 roll counter to get a 5 star....so if it takes you have fun with that I guess. Keep in mind too that many of these games implement a 5 star to a 6 star system, yet they can't implement a 4 to a 5 star? Okay then....

    Going back to what I said though, if you can overlook the 'progression' system or at least not take it 'seriously' then its actually a really good game that you can co-op with friends as well. Base heros can clear through most of the content easily if you pick good cross-affinities (like lightning and ice, fire and lightning, etc....please don't do ice and water though, ice can work with water but not vice verse). Also Barbara is a really good healer hero which they are going to 'giveaway' once you hit adventure rank 20, so good time to start if you're wanting to.



    I can definitely roll with that.
    If someone can overlook the gacha systems and simply enjoy the game, I'm all for it.
    Because again, this one is actually a game that can be played and enjoyed.
    Every other gacha "game" on the market (at least from what I've seen) is a little bit of "game" (AFK auto-play mechanics) wrapped around a lot of gacha mechanics.
    This one is an actual game that simply incorporated gacha as their business model. And it's actually a good game.

    Just in case you keep reading this thread, do you know if at some point you are completely restricted from getting new heroes for free?
    I know they give you some for free (I got some of that "Wish" currency during the story), but is there any other way? Like farm them slowly with dailies or something?
    [Deleted User]
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    edited September 2020
    Albatroes said:
    oriya9 said:
    In my opinion, this is gacha done right.
    I'm still extremely against this monetization model and games designed around this practice (but hey, it prints them money), but at least this one is an ACTUAL GAME with ACTUAL GAMEPLAY.
    I was highly impressed by the quality of this game. Yet at the same time extremely disappointed by the gacha mechanics.
    I kind of wish this was a full blown MMORPG without all the typical gacha stuff.

    To summarize:
    Out of all the gacha games, this is probably the best one on the market right now.
    Still a gacha though, so definitely not for me.

    Like I said before, if people can accept that their 'progression' is tied to heavy RNG, with paying only giving you more chances at rolls vs actually getting the thing you want directly, then it definitely should be played, because the open world and the story are actually done very well when you compare it to many f2p games on the market atm.

    I know some people will defend the system due to the 'pity counter' but keep in mind that the only really way you can make your characters stronger in terms of skills etc is through duplicates, so....this game has a 90 roll counter to get a 5 star....so if it takes you have fun with that I guess. Keep in mind too that many of these games implement a 5 star to a 6 star system, yet they can't implement a 4 to a 5 star? Okay then....

    Going back to what I said though, if you can overlook the 'progression' system or at least not take it 'seriously' then its actually a really good game that you can co-op with friends as well. Base heros can clear through most of the content easily if you pick good cross-affinities (like lightning and ice, fire and lightning, etc....please don't do ice and water though, ice can work with water but not vice verse). Also Barbara is a really good healer hero which they are going to 'giveaway' once you hit adventure rank 20, so good time to start if you're wanting to.
    I have the nastiest luck so RNG is an anathema to a person like me. I really don't mind paying a fixed amount for something but to pay for a chance means I will lose basically. So without the RNG items you cannot progress I guess. So I'm forced to pass on the game since I have a low chance of enjoying myself.
    [Deleted User]cheyane

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    edited September 2020
    I have no idea what a "Gacha" game is,i don't even like labeling other than if I see "arpg"it helps me to avoid completely.

    I looked deeper because I was interested to make sure i wasn't missing something.

    So there is talk of it being a Breathe of The Wild clone,idk about that,i guess there might be some similarities.

    So the narrator talks of "gacha"and i still don't know wtf it is but he states there is no reason for it as the game plays as a single player game and the "Gacha"doesn't even make any sense in the game.He says the reasoning is the cash shop,the "Gacha"design is there to make money.

    The actual combat is described by them as an ARPG which 101% turns me off right away but it is not so arpg but again it is in a different way.

    Instead of darting around spamming combat,killing stuff every 2 secs it utilizes what looks to be an unrealistic ability to switch on the fly between characters to utilize combos,to me that is a very lame design.So instead of a FF like game where you might have 3 chaqracters and controlling each,you have one/many character and just instantly switch between them.

    You have basically a primary and secondary attack,again LAZY,lame design.Bottom line is that i seen enough,oh geesh i forgot to mention you have yet again ...sigh,another game with a LOLLY companion...grrrr.So thanks to the video that described in full the game because it made sure I didn't waste my time downloading it.
    alkarionlogunfilteredJW

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    This is the video I watched to get my information.


    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • WarlyxWarlyx Member EpicPosts: 3,368
    edited September 2020
    have been playing on pc....now on my bed on mobile......is just amazing how well it moves

    the gameplay looks meh , but it uses elements as main mechanic...ice to freeze , water = wet , fire = burning and thunder to boost all them

    u can combo almost all the elements , fire + thunder = AOE , ice + wet = frozen ....

    was wondering why u could play 3 chars at the same time now i know
  • vegetableoilvegetableoil Member RarePosts: 768

    Wizardry said:

    I have no idea what a "Gacha" game is,i don't even like labeling other than if I see "arpg"it helps me to avoid completely.



    I looked deeper because I was interested to make sure i wasn't missing something.



    So there is talk of it being a Breathe of The Wild clone,idk about that,i guess there might be some similarities.



    So the narrator talks of "gacha"and i still don't know wtf it is but he states there is no reason for it as the game plays as a single player game and the "Gacha"doesn't even make any sense in the game.He says the reasoning is the cash shop,the "Gacha"design is there to make money.



    The actual combat is described by them as an ARPG which 101% turns me off right away but it is not so arpg but again it is in a different way.



    Instead of darting around spamming combat,killing stuff every 2 secs it utilizes what looks to be an unrealistic ability to switch on the fly between characters to utilize combos,to me that is a very lame design.So instead of a FF like game where you might have 3 chaqracters and controlling each,you have one/many character and just instantly switch between them.



    You have basically a primary and secondary attack,again LAZY,lame design.Bottom line is that i seen enough,oh geesh i forgot to mention you have yet again ...sigh,another game with a LOLLY companion...grrrr.So thanks to the video that described in full the game because it made sure I didn't waste my time downloading it.



    gacha is those box in japan that you put coin in to get random capsule toys. fancy way of calling loot boxes. the only difference is that one is essential to the progress of the game, the other is supplemental.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Yuck! If someone set out to design all the things I dislike in video games they couldn't have done a better job. I can't even get past the anime style with the obligatory lolis to even care about the details of their built-in loot box driven game play.

    I get that there are not enough MMO related things for mmorpg.com to fill its quota of games to cover but this feels like scraping the bottom of the barrel,
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  • Z3R01Z3R01 Member UncommonPosts: 2,426
    I played this game all day yesterday. won a few new characters, leveled a few to 20 so far, progressed in the story and gained a few 4 star weapons. I didn't spend a cent yet. 

    Since it is a solo player game i don't really have to give my wallet to the RNG gacha gods. However if they keep adding content i might as appreciation for delivering a cool game. 
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  • ACommonMuggerACommonMugger Member RarePosts: 563
    edited September 2020
    Anyone who says the voice acting is bad is just another weeb.

    The worst thing about this game, and don't let anyone tell you different, is that it's a mobile monetized game masquerading around as a PC game with a mobile counterpart.

    It has an energy system.
    It has Gatcha MTX ( with a ridiculously low pull rate of high tier weapons and heroes )
    And it's store gives a bad name to any game wanting to emulate BOTW.

    Other than that, the story is interesting and the voice acting IS JUST FINE - STOP IT YOU WEEBS.


    Edit: Also, this is it boys. This is the gateway to making gatcha normal in the PC gaming realm. People are hyping up this game and it's gonna have ripples into other gaming designs.
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  • ValentinaValentina Member RarePosts: 2,108
    edited September 2020
    I never play gacha games, but this one is actually a really good game in spite of the gacha system. You get a lot of gacha currency for free, and you get more and more as you level and progress through the game just by playing, it's really not as bad as I thought it would be so far. They have boosted drop rates for a lot of the good characters, in just 1 day of playing I've gotten a hand full really good characters without spending money.

    The gameplay is really good, the story is good, the world is interesting and large, and there is a lot to do, with a lot more on the way. From what the developers have been saying, there are a lot of really interesting updates coming such as Housing, farming, new co-op modes and activities, more ways to farm the materials needed to get characters, character upgrades, and weapon upgrades both in the open world as well as in instanced content, etc. So while I'm always gonna be skeptical since it is a gacha game, if they do live up to these promises then this is a game that is worth investing your time into, especially if you're waiting for Blue Protocol. Also, you can basically "subscribe" to the game and get gacha currency monthly, and daily for like $5.
    [Deleted User]
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    edited September 2020

    oriya9 said:



    Albatroes said:




    oriya9 said:


    In my opinion, this is gacha done right.


    I'm still extremely against this monetization model and games designed around this practice (but hey, it prints them money), but at least this one is an ACTUAL GAME with ACTUAL GAMEPLAY.


    I was highly impressed by the quality of this game. Yet at the same time extremely disappointed by the gacha mechanics.


    I kind of wish this was a full blown MMORPG without all the typical gacha stuff.





    To summarize:


    Out of all the gacha games, this is probably the best one on the market right now.


    Still a gacha though, so definitely not for me.





    Like I said before, if people can accept that their 'progression' is tied to heavy RNG, with paying only giving you more chances at rolls vs actually getting the thing you want directly, then it definitely should be played, because the open world and the story are actually done very well when you compare it to many f2p games on the market atm.

    I know some people will defend the system due to the 'pity counter' but keep in mind that the only really way you can make your characters stronger in terms of skills etc is through duplicates, so....this game has a 90 roll counter to get a 5 star....so if it takes you have fun with that I guess. Keep in mind too that many of these games implement a 5 star to a 6 star system, yet they can't implement a 4 to a 5 star? Okay then....

    Going back to what I said though, if you can overlook the 'progression' system or at least not take it 'seriously' then its actually a really good game that you can co-op with friends as well. Base heros can clear through most of the content easily if you pick good cross-affinities (like lightning and ice, fire and lightning, etc....please don't do ice and water though, ice can work with water but not vice verse). Also Barbara is a really good healer hero which they are going to 'giveaway' once you hit adventure rank 20, so good time to start if you're wanting to.






    I can definitely roll with that.

    If someone can overlook the gacha systems and simply enjoy the game, I'm all for it.

    Because again, this one is actually a game that can be played and enjoyed.

    Every other gacha "game" on the market (at least from what I've seen) is a little bit of "game" (AFK auto-play mechanics) wrapped around a lot of gacha mechanics.

    This one is an actual game that simply incorporated gacha as their business model. And it's actually a good game.



    Just in case you keep reading this thread, do you know if at some point you are completely restricted from getting new heroes for free?

    I know they give you some for free (I got some of that "Wish" currency during the story), but is there any other way? Like farm them slowly with dailies or something?



    Uh....you can earn currency in game to buy rolls, so I can't really say you'll get 'free heroes' via that. The one thing to keep in mind about gacha games is that they tend to front load stuff to new players, causing them to spend stuff that they'll eventually need a lot of later on. Also....these systems aren't in their final form, eventually there will be 5 stars upgraded to 6 stars at the very least since all these games do something like that, as well as probably tying some extra equippable power to the duplicate system.

    The reason I'm against this system is because there's no limit. Yes, this game and others will have a pity counter (this game being 90 rolls, importantly on a dedicated banner, you can't build up your pity in one banner and then switch to another for a guaranteed 5 star for example, only that banner you spend in, from what people are saying so far anyway, its still new), keep in mind though that its a guaranteed RANDOM 5 star for the most part (the limited time banners, venti in this case, supposedly have a 50/50 booking in that 90 counter for getting the special banner character and 100% of getting the character if you don't get it on your first pity count roll).

    I get that the company needs to make money and a lot of people will defend selling power (which is what gacha systems ultimately are) just because its a pve focused game with only co-op and not really a mmo, but again there's no bottom. They could easily just sell the characters, or at least one in a pack (which will probably come later) for a specific price, since you still have to grind heavily at later levels anyway. Through systems like this, you'll end up grinding on characters you have until you get the ones you want and then need to regrind again just to 'enjoy' the game.
  • sschruppsschrupp Member UncommonPosts: 694
    Spent a few hours playing on PC yesterday having a good time. If nobody told me it was also on mobile I would have never guessed it was anything but a fun PC game. A free one at that.

    I expected to try it for a few minutes and shut it down. Was a bit surprised how long I'd been playing when I finally looked to see what time it was.

    Multiplayer does exist in the game once you reach Adventure Level 16 allowing you to have up to 4 people in co-op. Although there are some limitations in what you can do. Like you can't advance quests among some other restrictions I guess. Considering how story driven (voice scenes) the quests seem so far I guess that makes sense.
  • DeadSpockDeadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 403
    I'm hooked been playing 2 days straight. I can't believe a game that is for mobile as well is so detailed and so much to do. All new game for years now have very little exploring and this one has tons and tons of exploring and fighting, gathering in open world setting. Did some research online and some say it's a Zelda clone for free, I never played Zelda but if it's like this might have to buy it on switch to try it cause this game is that awesome.
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