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Camelot Unchained Keeps Improving Performance | MMORPG.com
Camelot Unchained's latest community update touts improved performance and more. Here are the details.
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Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
This guy never had me convinced from day 1 and that is really sad considering COE had me interested for at least a week.
There is not a single developer who deserves free money from gamers,if devs want to make a game,get your own dam money.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
And let me guess, he isn't even conceived yet? Which sounds about right lol!
So there is the Unreal engine and that's it? Nothing else available to them to make a MMORPG? It does seem to me CF MMOs keep wanting to re-invent the wheel every time they make a new MMO.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
At a glance it does not look bad. Then again Amazon has yet to make a successful game with it that i have heard of LOL.
Mark has said, time and again... that if this is how you're going to go around talking about the game, then you should have already personally requested a Refund from him. He's said there is no shortfall of monetary resources for them, only patience and talent. Therefore he has ENCOURAGED people who think they NEED that hundred or so dollars back, to request it from him rather than just having a constant stream of this extremely vocal tiny minority out there being salty for no reason what so ever. Just get the money back. It's what he wants... it's what you definitely seem to be signaling with the posts you've made about this game...
Why not just do it? ...then go find your next MMO to be super Salty about (like I do with Planestside & BDO)
So don't hold your breath on actually getting your money back any time soon. (Like next year most likely.)
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
@Viper482 is completely right to call out this BS. This was originally pitched as being deliverable in a relatively short period of time because it was meant to be tightly focused on the RvR niche and based on a formula that had already been successfully implemented in at least two other games by Mark.
Instead we get all this BS about building a system that can handle 2000 vs 2000 battles. And how is that going? The "game" is laggy as fuck even with its prehistoric graphics and piss poor animations with only a few people running around on screen.
It is just so disappointing to see all these crowdfunded mmos, especially the ones with industry icons like Mark leading them, basically pulling the same BS over and over again. Have they forgotten how to actually make a game? What the hell is going on?
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
But even the slightest experience in a real software production environment should make people aware of how every little thing can become a painful time sink. That's why I am especially critical and disappointed with these devs who have been in the trenches already and should know damn well how important it is to have realistically scoped goals.
Seven years of development and over two years into "beta" and still nothing worth showing, its incredible. They need to sit back and take a long hard look at what went wrong and come up with a proper business plan. Otherwise I wouldn't be surprised to see these same threads and talking points popping up again in a couple of years time.
I wouldn't assume that they're trying to sell an engine unless they've explicitly said so. There are major advantages to building your own engine, as it means that you'll have an engine designed to do what you want your game to do. That makes it much easier to do what you wanted than if you start with an engine that has hard-coded in that you cannot do what you need for your game to do.
You should assume that any portions of a game that you rely on an off-the-shelf game engine to handle for you will fill in the details in the most generic, boring way possible. That's not always a bad thing. If you ask a developer what makes his game interesting and worth playing and he starts by telling you about the account login system, you should be very suspicious of his game.
But it does mean that whatever innovative portions you hope will make your game interesting is something that you'll have to write yourself, as there won't already be a game engine to do it for you. If you try to use some off-the-shelf engine, it might make it impossible to do what you had in mind.
It's possible to license an engine and then modify it, of course. But that comes with heavy drawbacks of its own. Once you fork a game engine, you're responsible for maintaining whatever is there. You can't get future engine updates because you've made your own modifications that make your version incompatible with future updates.
Furthermore, modifying someone else's code isn't necessarily easy to do. Suppose that there's a thousand line chunk of code somewhere that does something kind of similar to what you need, but not quite what you need. You could, however, modify it to do what you need by modifying 20 lines of code, while leaving the rest alone. Is it easier to modify the thousand lines of code to get what you need or to write your own from scratch?
If you think I've given you enough information to answer the question, then you're obviously not a programmer. That thousand lines of code might do a bunch of things that you don't need, so that writing your own from scratch to do only what you actually n eed only takes a hundred lines. Understanding someone else's code isn't always much faster than writing your own. The twenty lines that you need to modify might be scattered all through it so that if you try to make the necessary changes, you'll almost certainly miss a spot and then have a whole lot of debugging to do in order to track down what went wrong. And even that assumes that the code is very well written and well documented in the first place, which it probably isn't.
Or it might just mean that you have to rewrite an isolated 20-line subroutine and heavily use the rest of the thousand lines, in which case, it's easier to modify the existing code.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
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'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
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