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  • McSleazMcSleaz Member RarePosts: 280
    Almost all the weapons I hover my cursor over won't show a tooltip, very annoying.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    As I've said in several posts already, after 100+ hours I've had zero crashes and very few bugs.

    Most of the bugs I've encountered are of the minor graphics glitch variety which I fully expected to see as a day 1 early adopter with a game as open, huge and detailed as this.

    I'm also on my second playthrough and going as a full on hacker. First time though I just did it as a generalist gun wielder and I didn't really understand that crafting quickhacks is it's own Int-based crafting, separate from other crafting, nor that some rare quickhacks don't even appear (unless you're lucky enough to find one) in the crafting menu until you can craft epic quality.

    I crafted one such hack, Cyberpsychosis, that can turn a hostile into a cybepsycho who will attack anyone near him/her. It's funny as hell doing that to the strongest enemy you can find and just let it do the work for you while you watch from stealth. When it runs out of hostile NPCs to kill, it will then commit suicide lol. Do that on robots and they just turn friendly and also fight for you,

    Then there's the just plain Suicide hack where they will just kill themselves and the legendary version of it will spread to a second nearby enemy. Other hacks do things like explode grenades someone may be carrying, a poison DOT one called Contagion that can spread to many others... playing as a hacker is a much more methodical but equally fun (for me) way to play as the assault type I played first.

    If shit goes sideways and I'm spotted, I can just whip out my missile launcher arm implant, or Skippy, my smart pistol equipped with an experimental (alpha 0.01 :)) AI that auto targets heads (you have the option to set-it up to target lower limbs but I went with the head option.) As a bonus, it talks to you lol. It also has a very rare quality (only one I've seen so far) in that the pistol auto-levels with you.

    A side benefit of hacks, since they have insane range, is that on many missions where you're tasked with accomplishing your task without raising a fuss, you can wipe every single bad guy with hacks from stealth from some convenient vantage point and as long as you're not spotted you'll get whatever "no fuss" bonus the gig has.

    Just having a blast with the game.
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  • RidrithRidrith Member RarePosts: 859

    Urden said:



    Ridrith said:





    Urden said:



    I've only experienced minor bugs as well. On an earlier CP2077 post on these forums someone stated "anyone who is saying they aren't seeing bugs is lying or oblivious". I find it amazing that people think that because they have issues, everyone must have similar issues. My son and I both play and we have each had a handful of minor bugs. I must add that when my son first loaded the game he had quite a few graphical issues. He updated his graphics driver and all was well, which makes me wonder how many people out there on PC, losing there minds, outraged at the travesty of a game this is, is simply running old drivers.









    This game is a travesty, bugs being a small part of the overall problem. CDPR lying and practicing underhanded and shitty business practices is the primary culprit for complaints. Plus the game itself just not being nearly as impressive as it was made out to be in articles and marketing prior to the release.






    It's not a travesty imo. Your having issues. Not everyone is having the issues your having as is stated by the review in progress and several comments here.



    I'm satisfied with the product I've bought, but I didn't go into it with unreasonably huge expectations. I feel bad for the console consumers.



    Every company hypes up there games to be impressive, CDPR is no different. If it doesn't meet my expectations I don't wish they would burn in hell for it, which it appears many people do.



    You obviously ignored what I said, the bugs aren't the main issue. It's the fact that CDPR lied to a large group of people who were buying their game. There's a reason they're eating shit right now, and that it was taken off the Sony store for literally not working for many users and mass refund requests.

    There's a reason that Cyberpunk 2077 was designated with the first-ever consumer warning on Opencritic. https://opencritic.com/game/8525/cyberpunk-2077

    It's because they willfully lied and sold a broken ass game to their last-gen console users.
    I like to complain about games.
  • UrdenUrden Member UncommonPosts: 51
    Ridrith said:

    Urden said:



    Ridrith said:





    Urden said:



    I've only experienced minor bugs as well. On an earlier CP2077 post on these forums someone stated "anyone who is saying they aren't seeing bugs is lying or oblivious". I find it amazing that people think that because they have issues, everyone must have similar issues. My son and I both play and we have each had a handful of minor bugs. I must add that when my son first loaded the game he had quite a few graphical issues. He updated his graphics driver and all was well, which makes me wonder how many people out there on PC, losing there minds, outraged at the travesty of a game this is, is simply running old drivers.









    This game is a travesty, bugs being a small part of the overall problem. CDPR lying and practicing underhanded and shitty business practices is the primary culprit for complaints. Plus the game itself just not being nearly as impressive as it was made out to be in articles and marketing prior to the release.






    It's not a travesty imo. Your having issues. Not everyone is having the issues your having as is stated by the review in progress and several comments here.



    I'm satisfied with the product I've bought, but I didn't go into it with unreasonably huge expectations. I feel bad for the console consumers.



    Every company hypes up there games to be impressive, CDPR is no different. If it doesn't meet my expectations I don't wish they would burn in hell for it, which it appears many people do.



    You obviously ignored what I said, the bugs aren't the main issue. It's the fact that CDPR lied to a large group of people who were buying their game. There's a reason they're eating shit right now, and that it was taken off the Sony store for literally not working for many users and mass refund requests.

    There's a reason that Cyberpunk 2077 was designated with the first-ever consumer warning on Opencritic. https://opencritic.com/game/8525/cyberpunk-2077

    It's because they willfully lied and sold a broken ass game to their last-gen console users.
    No no. I heard what you said.

    They made a miss step and are doing there best with refunds to make amends. Good for them, they admitted the mistake and are compensating people for it. Probably a good lesson for them going forward. Can't wait to see what games they produce in the future.
    RidrithKhebeln
  • rodarinrodarin Member EpicPosts: 2,611
    It plays perfectly on Stadia even on older systems. 

    The issue is it wasnt optimized very well. It was unplayable on my laptop which can play every other game fine.  Only an 1-5 with 8 gigs RAM and a GTX 1080 Ti) My newer PC it rubs perfectly with only graphical glitches. (i9-9900, 16 gig, RTX 2080 super)The patch last week helped somewhat and the new driver update made it run on the laptop. Not great but playable on lower graphics.

    I have all my games on a 1TB Sandisk new gen external SSD. 

    As for what they did or didnt do or promise. I have mixed feelings. Damned if you do damned if you dont. People whining and crying all over the internet with the delays. SO that along with suits feeling the heat they released it more than likely knowing it wasnt going to run well on the older systems. Which they did lie about. But consumers are never happy. Unless its something completely out of left field or has enough reasoning to accept smaller issues. 

    I have watched The Last of Us part 2 get crucified all year. You can disagree with the story or the messaging or some of the things they did but as far as GAME PLAY not even the biggest youtube trolls could deny it was very hih quality in that respect.  So its always disingenuous to me when people cry about bugs or glitches or crashes. But they get one of the most, if not the most immersive environment in any video game.  Many NPCs have long pathing and multiple scripts of dialogue. 

    Now could they have done more or made it slightly more polished? Of course but it could have taken another 6 months or more to do that and its likely there would have been a mutiny. But they ultimately painted themselves into a corner by releasing it on every platform simultaneously. But they really had to, since story driven games, no matter how many options they have, lose sex appeal once someone plays them and showcases them.

    Now it would also be easy to blame Covid for a lot of this but that would be too cliche at this point since covid is blamed for everything these days.

    Either way if you have the system to play the game its playable and a better than good game. Once its polished and they get all the features in it will be awesome. But unfortunately by then most people will probably be 'over it'.


    Babuinix
  • TalraekkTalraekk Member UncommonPosts: 297
    Having more fun than not fun. Minor gripes (many of them) add up to a lot in the end. It's still a solid game, and very Deus Ex meets open world, but here and there I'm like ughhh when I hit a rash of annoyances - One of my two real bugs caused the quest guy to dither, I thought part of quest, grabbed him. He then starts speaking while im in the kill or non lethal (kill) mode. Only option was f, forcing a reload if I wanted the quest to finish properly. Coarse, I can't properly fast travel to the quest completion after that either, because the fast travel was directly on an icon, forcing me to click about 100 times. Then I'm told to wait, but was apparently unable to wait safely in a safe zone.
    Things like that are commonplace, and drag an otherwise decent game down (I sure would like proper camera, inventory, and menu controls, let alone keybinds).
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Talraekk said:
    ... I can't properly fast travel to the quest completion after that either, because the fast travel was directly on an icon, forcing me to click about 100 times...
    If you zoom the map to max that problem usually goes away. I've had icons that were hard to select but once zoomed in all the way I've never had any overlap.
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  • ElonMuskElonMusk Member UncommonPosts: 129
    doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo

    This just in, breaking news.

    Nobody Cares!

    See you tonight at 11.
    Khebeln
  • NyghthowlerNyghthowler Member UncommonPosts: 392

    Datastar said:

    I had a bug where I couldn't draw my weapons out anymore, upon researching the bug some people said if you go into a safe area like lizzies bar and come back out it would resolve itself, I did this to no avail so I kept searching and found another tip that did fix it, I had to go visit a toyjoy. No joke had to solicit a cyber prostitute to fix a no weapons bug and it worked. Personally this was the most entertaining meme of a bug ive ever had in any video game lol...



    Glad to hear the ToyJoy knew how to help you get your 'gun' out of the holster... ;)
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    You can watch Angry joe's review video and see MANY bugs,not "minor" as someone was suggesting but in your face immersion ruining ideas.
    The thing about a RPG is that it's first and foremost suppose to support immersion and if it ruins that with countless bugs or bad ragdoll or glitching under the surface it is just BAD work.

    There also could be a variant in your game settings,i don't want to get into the many reasons why but it can matter.I assume many people are playing on low settings AND not doing like Angry joe did and save and go back and replay the same scene to check for variant in gameplay which CDPR promised.

    Even if you want to say "small minor details"there are LOT's of them,so many that sure one person alone might not witness all of them but it shows a bigger picture of a poorly delivered product that imo was not thoroughly tested if at all.

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  • PalebanePalebane Member RarePosts: 4,011
    I’m excited for the first few patches and a sale.

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  • KhebelnKhebeln Member UncommonPosts: 794
    Ridrith said:

    Urden said:



    Ridrith said:





    Urden said:



    I've only experienced minor bugs as well. On an earlier CP2077 post on these forums someone stated "anyone who is saying they aren't seeing bugs is lying or oblivious". I find it amazing that people think that because they have issues, everyone must have similar issues. My son and I both play and we have each had a handful of minor bugs. I must add that when my son first loaded the game he had quite a few graphical issues. He updated his graphics driver and all was well, which makes me wonder how many people out there on PC, losing there minds, outraged at the travesty of a game this is, is simply running old drivers.









    This game is a travesty, bugs being a small part of the overall problem. CDPR lying and practicing underhanded and shitty business practices is the primary culprit for complaints. Plus the game itself just not being nearly as impressive as it was made out to be in articles and marketing prior to the release.






    It's not a travesty imo. Your having issues. Not everyone is having the issues your having as is stated by the review in progress and several comments here.



    I'm satisfied with the product I've bought, but I didn't go into it with unreasonably huge expectations. I feel bad for the console consumers.



    Every company hypes up there games to be impressive, CDPR is no different. If it doesn't meet my expectations I don't wish they would burn in hell for it, which it appears many people do.



    You obviously ignored what I said, the bugs aren't the main issue. It's the fact that CDPR lied to a large group of people who were buying their game. There's a reason they're eating shit right now, and that it was taken off the Sony store for literally not working for many users and mass refund requests.

    There's a reason that Cyberpunk 2077 was designated with the first-ever consumer warning on Opencritic. https://opencritic.com/game/8525/cyberpunk-2077

    It's because they willfully lied and sold a broken ass game to their last-gen console users.
    Dude. At this point you just want to be angry and make everyone angry.

    We are just enjoying the game and having a blast. I dont give a F about what you think the game was suppose to be in your head. 

    It is what it is and we love every minute. Its not game for you. Go do something else...
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  • KhebelnKhebeln Member UncommonPosts: 794
    Wizardry said:
    You can watch Angry joe's review video and see MANY bugs,not "minor" as someone was suggesting but in your face immersion ruining ideas.
    The thing about a RPG is that it's first and foremost suppose to support immersion and if it ruins that with countless bugs or bad ragdoll or glitching under the surface it is just BAD work.

    There also could be a variant in your game settings,i don't want to get into the many reasons why but it can matter.I assume many people are playing on low settings AND not doing like Angry joe did and save and go back and replay the same scene to check for variant in gameplay which CDPR promised.

    Even if you want to say "small minor details"there are LOT's of them,so many that sure one person alone might not witness all of them but it shows a bigger picture of a poorly delivered product that imo was not thoroughly tested if at all.
    Who cares. Its fun. Fun is fun. Simple. 

    I know 1000+ games that are polished to perfection but that dont mean they are fun... 

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  • KhebelnKhebeln Member UncommonPosts: 794
    Palebane said:
    I’m excited for the first few patches and a sale.
    Palebane said:
    I’m excited for the first few patches and a sale.
    BREAKING NEWS!!!

    Patch 1.05 is already being deployed on consoles right now.

    Go google Patch notes.

    A TON of fixes. PC Patch will be coming soon.

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  • RidrithRidrith Member RarePosts: 859
    Khebeln said:
    Ridrith said:

    Urden said:



    Ridrith said:





    Urden said:



    I've only experienced minor bugs as well. On an earlier CP2077 post on these forums someone stated "anyone who is saying they aren't seeing bugs is lying or oblivious". I find it amazing that people think that because they have issues, everyone must have similar issues. My son and I both play and we have each had a handful of minor bugs. I must add that when my son first loaded the game he had quite a few graphical issues. He updated his graphics driver and all was well, which makes me wonder how many people out there on PC, losing there minds, outraged at the travesty of a game this is, is simply running old drivers.









    This game is a travesty, bugs being a small part of the overall problem. CDPR lying and practicing underhanded and shitty business practices is the primary culprit for complaints. Plus the game itself just not being nearly as impressive as it was made out to be in articles and marketing prior to the release.






    It's not a travesty imo. Your having issues. Not everyone is having the issues your having as is stated by the review in progress and several comments here.



    I'm satisfied with the product I've bought, but I didn't go into it with unreasonably huge expectations. I feel bad for the console consumers.



    Every company hypes up there games to be impressive, CDPR is no different. If it doesn't meet my expectations I don't wish they would burn in hell for it, which it appears many people do.



    You obviously ignored what I said, the bugs aren't the main issue. It's the fact that CDPR lied to a large group of people who were buying their game. There's a reason they're eating shit right now, and that it was taken off the Sony store for literally not working for many users and mass refund requests.

    There's a reason that Cyberpunk 2077 was designated with the first-ever consumer warning on Opencritic. https://opencritic.com/game/8525/cyberpunk-2077

    It's because they willfully lied and sold a broken ass game to their last-gen console users.
    Dude. At this point you just want to be angry and make everyone angry.

    We are just enjoying the game and having a blast. I dont give a F about what you think the game was suppose to be in your head. 

    It is what it is and we love every minute. Its not game for you. Go do something else...
    It's cool that you want to slob on the knob of a faceless company, but no one is telling you to be angry. Go and enjoy the game. You're attributing me calling out bugs and the companies shitty business practices to trying to get you to not enjoy it. I don't care about you, as you're not the point of the conversation.

    You like the game, I get it. That's really cool dude. Hold my hand, we're going to get through this together. It's going to be alright. People can have different opinions, but more importantly, people can and should call out bullshit when it comes to dishonesty and anti-consumer actions.

    Nobody is asking you to, so don't worry, you won't have to put in any work.


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  • Odi101Odi101 Member UncommonPosts: 54
    Good review...no drama inducing hate. I'm in the "not having any game breaking bugs" camp. I've seen some minor bugs/glitches, but nothing that warrants a "this game is crap" reaction. I'm actually having loads of fun, and honestly, as far as the world, and story goes, this ranks as one of the most immersive games I've ever played.

    I'll also say this again - while my experience is a positive one, I really do feel sorry for current-gen console players. If I'd waited 8 years for a game only to not be able to play said game on release I'd be super pissed too.
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  • GroqstrongGroqstrong Member RarePosts: 826
    Have they rolled out any patches since launch? Asking because I want to wait after a few patches have been released, but im itching like crazy to pull the trigger.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Have they rolled out any patches since launch? Asking because I want to wait after a few patches have been released, but im itching like crazy to pull the trigger.
    Yes. a couple on PC already and the next one, 1.05, is already on consoles and due on PC in the next couple of days.
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  • TwistedSister77TwistedSister77 Member EpicPosts: 1,144
    I really didn't find this review helpful.  I know most replies are focused on bugs (which most can be fixed)...

    But the section of the review on immersion... sure it's nice that that the city is huge and unique with many audio and visuals (like ads).  But if you cant interact with 90%+ of it and NPCs... I'm not that impressed.  It's just a facade.

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  • RidrithRidrith Member RarePosts: 859
    I really didn't find this review helpful.  I know most replies are focused on bugs (which most can be fixed)...

    But the section of the review on immersion... sure it's nice that that the city is huge and unique with many audio and visuals (like ads).  But if you cant interact with 90%+ of it and NPCs... I'm not that impressed.  It's just a facade.

    That's more or less what the world is, window dressing. It looks impressive but it pretty much ends there. NPCs are on pre-set paths, they walk around aimlessly, cars have no AI, police have no AI, the interactive advertisements that were shown off before are no longer a thing. The world is incredibly static. It doesn't hold up to the advertising or the buzzwords they used when first describing Night City.
    I like to complain about games.
  • QQMorePleaseQQMorePlease Member UncommonPosts: 51
    Really shallow review.

    40 hours in and bugs galore....enemy character models glitching into vehicles mid fight, side quest bugging your weapons forcing you to reset prior to the quest, and much much more.

    The crafting system is absolutely broken. Infinite loop of resources for upgrades.

    You can sell a lot of side quest rewards to vendors and buy them back for $5, fastforward 24 hrs, and repeat this process infinitely.

    A few of us played different classes at launch to test the different paths. Sniper rifles crit for 100k through walls btw.
  • TwistedSister77TwistedSister77 Member EpicPosts: 1,144
    Really shallow review.

    A few of us played different classes at launch to test the different paths. Sniper rifles crit for 100k through walls btw.
    If this game ever launches multiplayer... just wait for the player exploits, glitching, and hacks.  
  • johnnychangsjohnnychangs Member UncommonPosts: 261
    Played 36 hours so far. Ran into some bugs, but the game allows you to save when you are out of combat. So if running into something game breaking, re-load and try again. If you run into a problem repeatedly, report said bug. Every game operates this way. I'm not dismissing those of you frustrated with your long lists of bugs, I sympathise, yes broken games are very frustrating.

    To me its a pretty and unique game. A mix of Anarchy Online, Deus Ex, Blade Runner and some weird futuristic porn. Those trashing Keanu, while I've liked most of his movies I don't think he is the best actor...definitely not a great voice actor. Overall enjoying the game.
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    edited December 2020

    Linif said:

    I'm up to 50+ hours played and I've encountered 2 game-breaking bugs. Scanner bugged and was permanently on and the other dialog options disappeared during a mission step so I couldn't progress it. Reloading an autosave resolved both issues without a problem.



    I was seeing tree's and foliage through everything and weird textures in smoke particles but those were resolved with a gfx driver update. Otherwise, my experience seems to be vastly more positive than most.



    I have have a hard time seeing ANY game breaking bugs in a positive light. But I haven't played the game yet. I'm waiting to see where this goes. Once the hype settles and the general feel for the game is out and people see the game for what it is....If at that point, it still looks promising, then, I'll buy it.
  • SplattrSplattr Member RarePosts: 577

    Khebeln said:





    Been playing for quite a while now and it does seem that there are some bugs, they are minor and the story is awesome so really don't care to notice them. Having too much fun playing the game. I run the game on an I5 and a 1050 TI which is not very good....game runs fine...have it on Medium settings and rarely run into issues...maybe a stop here or there when driving but that's it.






    In the end all that matters is if you are having fun.



    This days rarely any games hook me in. I played to much, saw everything.



    At this point immersive world + good story is most important for me.



    Some people complain that they dont like the characters.... well then cyberpunk is not for you then. I love it as someone that played p&p Cyberpunk as a kid.



    Never played Cyberpunk p&p but did play some Shadowrun back in the day. I've always liked the genre and am glad CP2077 has a good story.
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