I had a former boss who wouldn't stop arguing until you agreed with him just so he would go away. I'm glad I don't work there any more.
The game is a 7/10
Nope its 10/10 GOTY !
I had a boss that was nervous talking to people both groups and one on one.
Was very strange, but awesome, since he stayed out of everyones hair - thankfully everyone was a seasoned professional and didn't need any micromanagement so all the work was getting completed on time.
Seriously best boss ever - was funny how we just got raises without anyone knowing or saying anything - until someone looked at the direct deposit and was like- guys was your deposit higher than normal? lol
Have played through 3 times now on the story with 3 different styles of play and have enjoyed it a lot. I as well have had very few issues and its been an interesting ride. The story was enjoyable, loot was all around which is something I like. Skills etc was enough to keep me engaged to try different things. I can see myself playing CP2077 for some time to come
Overall for me CP2077 in current form V1.06 is a 7/10 - worth playing, but still have some issues needing attention.
I don't think I'd give it a 9/10 as it stands now but I have enjoyed it enough to put 80 hours into it so far. The technical issues alone knock it down to an 8/10 or 7.5/10 for me. I've had a lot of frustrating different technical issues so far but none have been game breaking and were fixed by reloading from the last save point. It's still a technical mess even after a few patches and probably needed 3-6 months work before a release.
I'd have to also disagree with crafting being useless. If you want to upgrade your gear, you have to invest into the crafting tree to it. You also need it to craft higher quality weapons and armor. I highly recommend investing in the tree enough so you can at least get the perk that automatically dissembles all your junk into crafting parts. It's a HUGE time saver.
The biggest plus Cyberpunk 2077 has going for it, IMO, is the scale of the world. I've never seen an open world game that is huge vertically as well as horizontally. Having multiple layers of the city to explore is incredible. There's also a lot of great stories and world building going on around you all the time. From the main mission to some of the more involved side missions to the random events you run across to the characters you meet, it almost feels like you're in a living world.
If the devs can get their shit together and fix their game up like what happened with No Man's Sky, I'd have no problem giving it 9/10 or higher. As it stands now, I can't honestly rate it that high. They have a lot of work cut out for them to earn back the trust of gamers, esp. considering what went down with the console version.
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I just started playing it last night and all i have to say is I hope they fix all the technical problems (plenty of bugs, glitches, etc) because underneath all those problems the actual game is pretty damn good. I've seen many people who haven't played it compare it to GTA, it's nothing like GTA. It's a massive scale Deus Ex on crack and with some open ended choices/consequences. But they need to fix the technical issues, pronto. Once they fix those, then they can work on improving whatever features need improving because all games have room for improvement, and this is no exception.
There are legendary gear sets in the game with each piece hidden across the map. And I feel like crafting is indeed very useful to further strenghten your gear or craft some iconic weapons (you loot the schematics from some named bad guys). You can also turn some weapons (iconics) into higher tier ones with crafting. There is also the Johnny Silverhand set that looks pretty good and have great stats if you upgrade the individual pieces to legendary. Also the arguably strongest weapon in the game is only obtained via crafting.
There are legendary gear sets in⁸ the game with each piece hidden across the map. And I feel like crafting is indeed very useful to further strenghten your gear or craft some iconic weapons (you loot the schematics from some named bad guys). You can also turn some weapons (iconics) into higher tier ones with crafting. There is also the Johnny Silverhand set that looks pretty good and have great stats if you upgrade the individual pieces to legendary. Also the arguably strongest weapon in the game is only obtained via crafting.
Iconic schematics are obtained as soon as you get each iconic weapon.
Also the iconic weapon itself is part of the upgrade recipe.
The strongest weapon in game- umm there are so many that are completely OP and one shot very hard at level 50 - pistols, rifles, blades, Blunt... you name it.
When everything is dying in 1 hit - if you do 100k or 1mil damage is sort of pointless.
Strongest weapon IMO is missle launcher + tranquilizer darts - they one shot everything without any upgrades at all - blue ones work just as well as purple and orange - all are 1 shot including cyberpsycho bosses
So there you go you have a weapon that one shots everything without any need to do crafting at all - so if you go this route, it does make crafting completely pointless (as of patch 1.06)
I've not played CP2077, but from the complaints of overpowered gear, this is a game that is seriously unbalanced if even a third of the complaints here (and other places) are true. It wouldn't surprise me if the entire itemization plan was simply rushed.
Why? To meet an arbitrary marketing deadline and rake in some Christmas cash. They could have taken another year, polished the game, and released for the Christmas rush next year. No doubt a more perfect game, with time for additional hype, would have more than made up for the 2020 cash they would have missed (cost of opportunity stuff). They might even have gotten away with pricing the game $10-$15 more.
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It's commendable that you have an ultra PC system. I bow to your gaming rig. But maybe the majority of the people that come to this site don't have this stacked out rig.
I don't have such an ultra PC. How does this review supposed to relate to me?
I know reviews are subjective, but how is it 9/10 and "I can unequivocally say that Cyberpunk 2077 is one of the greatest games I have ever played." when there are fundamentally broken things like police just spawning in randomly, terrible AI, and a plethora of other issues that have been documented all over the web?
I'm not trying to hate on the game, I haven't played it (I want to play it), but I just really want to understand - like is the story telling and graphics just so awesome that it just trumps all the problems? I mean it seems inconceivable that the game could be rated so high after watching the review @remsleep posted in another thread today.
I know reviews are subjective, but how is it 9/10 and "I can unequivocally say that Cyberpunk 2077 is one of the greatest games I have ever played." when there are fundamentally broken things like police just spawning in randomly, terrible AI, and a plethora of other issues that have been documented all over the web?
I'm not trying to hate on the game, I haven't played it (I want to play it), but I just really want to understand - like is the story telling and graphics just so awesome that it just trumps all the problems? I mean it seems inconceivable that the game could be rated so high after watching the review @remsleep posted in another thread today.
You'll just have to play it. Its problems have been over-emphasized for clicks tremendously.
I have had 1 crash in 300+ hours and I'm not even sure it was the game's problem. I can play for several hours straight without seeing any bug or glitch but if I wanted to I'm sure I could go find a random NPC T-posing or a guy playing a non-existent guitar or some other shit and feature it in a hit-piece video.
There is a lot of spin in many reviews which is why I posted the long-ass one I posted. Did you have the patience to watch that whole thing? He acknowledges the problem but doesn't go out of his way to cherry pick shit.
Some harp on about this not being an RPG. They're fucking nuts... period. It's an RPG and very much an open world one with many side stories that take you in unexpected directions and seem like they might just be a one-of mundane task and then branch out into a quest chain with a great story.
CDPR deserves shit for many things associated with this game's release - especially on consoles where it was obviously not ready. But many have taken that into hating on every single aspect of the game and they look like fools when they do it.
It's the internet herd with a new bone to pick and something shiny to hate on and all the self-declared kool kids are doing it.
It's better than any TES or Fallout game I've ever played. Better than any Deus EX game and I've played all of those. Better than the ME or Dragons Age series - any of them. And as good an open world RPG as The Witcher 3.
But definitely don't take my word for it. Just play the damn thing because it's a great game and on PC it is very playable right now. Buy it on GOG and you have 30 days to decide to refund or not.
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“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
I know reviews are subjective, but how is it 9/10 and "I can unequivocally say that Cyberpunk 2077 is one of the greatest games I have ever played." when there are fundamentally broken things like police just spawning in randomly, terrible AI, and a plethora of other issues that have been documented all over the web?
I'm not trying to hate on the game, I haven't played it (I want to play it), but I just really want to understand - like is the story telling and graphics just so awesome that it just trumps all the problems? I mean it seems inconceivable that the game could be rated so high after watching the review @remsleep posted in another thread today.
You'll just have to play it. Its problems have been over-emphasized for clicks tremendously.
I have had 1 crash in 300+ hours and I'm not even sure it was the game's problem. I can play for several hours straight without seeing any bug or glitch but if I wanted to I'm sure I could go find a random NPC T-posing or a guy playing a non-existent guitar or some other shit and feature it in a hit-piece video.
There is a lot of spin in many reviews which is why I posted the long-ass one I posted. Did you have the patience to watch that whole thing? He acknowledges the problem but doesn't go out of his way to cherry pick shit.
Some harp on about this not being an RPG. They're fucking nuts... period. It's an RPG and very much an open world one with many side stories that take you in unexpected directions and seem like they might just be a one-of mundane task and then branch out into a quest chain with a great story.
CDPR deserves shit for many things associated with this game's release - especially on consoles where it was obviously not ready. But many have taken that into hating on every single aspect of the game and they look like fools when they do it.
It's the internet herd with a new bone to pick and something shiny to hate on and all the self-declared kool kids are doing it.
It's better than any TES or Fallout game I've ever played. Better than any Deus EX game and I've played all of those. Better than the ME or Dragons Age series - any of them. And as good an open world RPG as The Witcher 3.
But definitely don't take my word for it. Just play the damn thing because it's a great game and on PC it is very playable right now. Buy it on GOG and you have 30 days to decide to refund or not.
I know reviews are subjective, but how is it 9/10 and "I can unequivocally say that Cyberpunk 2077 is one of the greatest games I have ever played." when there are fundamentally broken things like police just spawning in randomly, terrible AI, and a plethora of other issues that have been documented all over the web?
I'm not trying to hate on the game, I haven't played it (I want to play it), but I just really want to understand - like is the story telling and graphics just so awesome that it just trumps all the problems? I mean it seems inconceivable that the game could be rated so high after watching the review @remsleep posted in another thread today.
You'll just have to play it. Its problems have been over-emphasized for clicks tremendously.
I have had 1 crash in 300+ hours and I'm not even sure it was the game's problem. I can play for several hours straight without seeing any bug or glitch but if I wanted to I'm sure I could go find a random NPC T-posing or a guy playing a non-existent guitar or some other shit and feature it in a hit-piece video.
There is a lot of spin in many reviews which is why I posted the long-ass one I posted. Did you have the patience to watch that whole thing? He acknowledges the problem but doesn't go out of his way to cherry pick shit.
Some harp on about this not being an RPG. They're fucking nuts... period. It's an RPG and very much an open world one with many side stories that take you in unexpected directions and seem like they might just be a one-of mundane task and then branch out into a quest chain with a great story.
CDPR deserves shit for many things associated with this game's release - especially on consoles where it was obviously not ready. But many have taken that into hating on every single aspect of the game and they look like fools when they do it.
It's the internet herd with a new bone to pick and something shiny to hate on and all the self-declared kool kids are doing it.
It's better than any TES or Fallout game I've ever played. Better than any Deus EX game and I've played all of those. Better than the ME or Dragons Age series - any of them. And as good an open world RPG as The Witcher 3.
But definitely don't take my word for it. Just play the damn thing because it's a great game and on PC it is very playable right now. Buy it on GOG and you have 30 days to decide to refund or not.
Now you've got me all excited to play it, haha.
To make it harder for you, I agree with everything @Iselin wrote
Just remember, its not the Second Coming, its a video game.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
It's better than any TES or Fallout game I've ever played. Better than any Deus EX game and I've played all of those. Better than the ME or Dragons Age series - any of them. And as good an open world RPG as The Witcher 3.
I couldn't disagree more - this is just crazy talk right here.
As far as *gameplay* goes - Cyberpunk 2077 in current state can't hold a candle to any TES game, nor Fallout game. Better than Dragon Age series - this is just insane.
I mean we are talking about some of these epic games that are actual RPGs with deep RPG systems - compared to a story driven action-adventure "rpg-lite" game?
A game with AI so bad that NPCs don't even acknowledge that you are robbing them blind while they are standing right in front of you?
Please...
Oh look what I found in the MMORPG.CO wayback machine. I thought that "it's not an RPG horseshit" sounded familiar.
DMKANO quotes are hard to find because when he deleted his account all his posts were deleted but occasionally you can find them when someone quoted him
Here's, you know, why TW3 also was not an RPG. LMAO
Originally posted by DMKano
Yeah but I don't like Geralt, and he has limited choices, which I wouldn't do. So for some people it's not much role playing, it's more of a a multiple choice "choose your own adventure" book with 36 endings. Sure it's done beautifully but it's an action choose your own adventure game to me - not an RPG.
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“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
To make it harder for you, I agree with everything @Iselin wrote
Just remember, its not the Second Coming, its a video game.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
you agree that Cyberpunk is better than all TES series, all Fallout games and all Dragonage games?
Please tell me you are joking?
Because that's what Iselin wrote.
I am probably going to get a fair amount of WTFs for this but, ahem, here we go, all my opinion of course.
Out of all Dragon Age games I think only the first one is worth mentioning at all. And when talking about the first I also mean the definitive version with all its patches, bug fixes, DLC etc. That definitive version is a pretty good game yes. I wouldn’t call it great however and it took more then a year to get there after release. Dragon Age 2 isn’t worth talking about at all and Dragon Age Inquisition is EA doing a Ubisoft while implementing all of the worst features of an MMORPG. Its still fun in its own, heavily flawed, way though.
I also think every single 3D version of Fallout is a bug ridden mess with poor production values that look and play like they are being held together by ducttape and a piece of gum. The only saving grace being the excellent writing and awesome universe. These games have nothing on their 2D predecessors.
You might have me with the Elder Scrolls games though. Although I think both Oblivion and Skyrim are unexciting games lacking any sense of wonder being crippled even further by atrocious level scaling and bland design overall Morrowind is one of my favourite games ever.
So yes, better then all mentioned. Except Morrowind. And all my opinion of course.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Well, I am glad @Iselin and others refuted some of the negative reviews about the game, because I ended up getting it and so far its awesome.
I'm playing on a rtx 3080 with a Acer x34p ultrawidescreen display and its a beautiful, immersive experience. I don't particulary like 1st person games and sci-fi stuff, but I am loving this: it has some of the best (the best?) characters and story pacing I have ever experienced, and I feel deeply connected to the characters and the world.
I am mainly just cruising through the main story line without trying to powergame it or go off onto my own little adventures like I might in say Skyrim or Dragon's Dogma, it just doesn't feel like that sort of game and the story is so engrossing I keep wanting to know more. I suspect some of the negative reviews (excluding bugs) were from the perspective of people who wanted to approach the game from a different angle, or who were playing on more modest hardware that was unable to really do justice to bringing the world to life.
Well, I am glad @Iselin and others refuted some of the negative reviews about the game, because I ended up getting it and so far its awesome.
I'm playing on a rtx 3080 with a Acer x34p ultrawidescreen display and its a beautiful, immersive experience. I don't particulary like 1st person games and sci-fi stuff, but I am loving this: it has some of the best (the best?) characters and story pacing I have ever experienced, and I feel deeply connected to the characters and the world.
I am mainly just cruising through the main story line without trying to powergame it or go off onto my own little adventures like I might in say Skyrim or Dragon's Dogma, it just doesn't feel like that sort of game and the story is so engrossing I keep wanting to know more. I suspect some of the negative reviews (excluding bugs) were from the perspective of people who wanted to approach the game from a different angle, or who were playing on more modest hardware that was unable to really do justice to bringing the world to life.
Glad you're enjoying. The characters, dialogue and stories are really second to none. Sensitive themes get a very mature and respectful treatment. This ain't no comic book story city with caricatures instead of believable characters you can relate to.
I did do many side quests on my first playthrough for ~ 80 hrs., but I have found a ton of interesting and detailed stuff I missed the first time around.
Have fun.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
Comments
The game is a 7/10
Overall for me CP2077 in current form V1.06 is a 7/10 - worth playing, but still have some issues needing attention.
I'd have to also disagree with crafting being useless. If you want to upgrade your gear, you have to invest into the crafting tree to it. You also need it to craft higher quality weapons and armor. I highly recommend investing in the tree enough so you can at least get the perk that automatically dissembles all your junk into crafting parts. It's a HUGE time saver.
The biggest plus Cyberpunk 2077 has going for it, IMO, is the scale of the world. I've never seen an open world game that is huge vertically as well as horizontally. Having multiple layers of the city to explore is incredible. There's also a lot of great stories and world building going on around you all the time. From the main mission to some of the more involved side missions to the random events you run across to the characters you meet, it almost feels like you're in a living world.
If the devs can get their shit together and fix their game up like what happened with No Man's Sky, I'd have no problem giving it 9/10 or higher. As it stands now, I can't honestly rate it that high. They have a lot of work cut out for them to earn back the trust of gamers, esp. considering what went down with the console version.
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This is a review on a good PC and only that. Not the console version which apparently is trashed wrapped in marketing and lies.
I don't have such an ultra PC. How does this review supposed to relate to me?
I'm not trying to hate on the game, I haven't played it (I want to play it), but I just really want to understand - like is the story telling and graphics just so awesome that it just trumps all the problems? I mean it seems inconceivable that the game could be rated so high after watching the review @remsleep posted in another thread today.
I have had 1 crash in 300+ hours and I'm not even sure it was the game's problem. I can play for several hours straight without seeing any bug or glitch but if I wanted to I'm sure I could go find a random NPC T-posing or a guy playing a non-existent guitar or some other shit and feature it in a hit-piece video.
There is a lot of spin in many reviews which is why I posted the long-ass one I posted. Did you have the patience to watch that whole thing? He acknowledges the problem but doesn't go out of his way to cherry pick shit.
Some harp on about this not being an RPG. They're fucking nuts... period. It's an RPG and very much an open world one with many side stories that take you in unexpected directions and seem like they might just be a one-of mundane task and then branch out into a quest chain with a great story.
CDPR deserves shit for many things associated with this game's release - especially on consoles where it was obviously not ready. But many have taken that into hating on every single aspect of the game and they look like fools when they do it.
It's the internet herd with a new bone to pick and something shiny to hate on and all the self-declared kool kids are doing it.
It's better than any TES or Fallout game I've ever played. Better than any Deus EX game and I've played all of those. Better than the ME or Dragons Age series - any of them. And as good an open world RPG as The Witcher 3.
But definitely don't take my word for it. Just play the damn thing because it's a great game and on PC it is very playable right now. Buy it on GOG and you have 30 days to decide to refund or not.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Just remember, its not the Second Coming, its a video game.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
From page 4 of Bill's The Witcher 3 review.
https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/432590/review-the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-a-role-playing-masterpiece/p1
DMKANO quotes are hard to find because when he deleted his account all his posts were deleted but occasionally you can find them when someone quoted him
Here's, you know, why TW3 also was not an RPG. LMAO
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Out of all Dragon Age games I think only the first one is worth mentioning at all. And when talking about the first I also mean the definitive version with all its patches, bug fixes, DLC etc. That definitive version is a pretty good game yes. I wouldn’t call it great however and it took more then a year to get there after release. Dragon Age 2 isn’t worth talking about at all and Dragon Age Inquisition is EA doing a Ubisoft while implementing all of the worst features of an MMORPG. Its still fun in its own, heavily flawed, way though.
I also think every single 3D version of Fallout is a bug ridden mess with poor production values that look and play like they are being held together by ducttape and a piece of gum. The only saving grace being the excellent writing and awesome universe. These games have nothing on their 2D predecessors.
You might have me with the Elder Scrolls games though. Although I think both Oblivion and Skyrim are unexciting games lacking any sense of wonder being crippled even further by atrocious level scaling and bland design overall Morrowind is one of my favourite games ever.
So yes, better then all mentioned. Except Morrowind. And all my opinion of course.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
I'm playing on a rtx 3080 with a Acer x34p ultrawidescreen display and its a beautiful, immersive experience. I don't particulary like 1st person games and sci-fi stuff, but I am loving this: it has some of the best (the best?) characters and story pacing I have ever experienced, and I feel deeply connected to the characters and the world.
I am mainly just cruising through the main story line without trying to powergame it or go off onto my own little adventures like I might in say Skyrim or Dragon's Dogma, it just doesn't feel like that sort of game and the story is so engrossing I keep wanting to know more. I suspect some of the negative reviews (excluding bugs) were from the perspective of people who wanted to approach the game from a different angle, or who were playing on more modest hardware that was unable to really do justice to bringing the world to life.
I did do many side quests on my first playthrough for ~ 80 hrs., but I have found a ton of interesting and detailed stuff I missed the first time around.
Have fun.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED