CD Projekt Red Releases Roadmap For Cyberpunk 2077, Next-Gen Console Improvements Slated For Late 20

System · January 2021

CD Projekt Red Releases Roadmap For Cyberpunk 2077, Next-Gen Console Improvements Slated For Late 2021 | MMORPG.com

After more than a month on the market, CD Projekt Red's co-founder Marcin Iwinski took to YouTube, apologizing for the state of their latest game, Cyberpunk 2077. The team also laid out a roadmap giving players an idea as to when they can expect updates and fixes coming to the game this year.

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Aeander · January 2021

Non-service games shouldn't need roadmaps.

Sovrath · January 2021

Aeander said:

Non-service games shouldn't need roadmaps.

That only makes sense if the developer is going to make a "one off" and leave it at that and never revisit that game again.

Sovrath · January 2021

remsleep said:

Sovrath said:

Aeander said:

Non-service games shouldn't need roadmaps.

That only makes sense if the developer is going to make a "one off" and leave it at that and never revisit that game again.

It also makes sense when the release is an actually completed stable game and not an unfinished bugged to hell alpha build - which is what PS4 got basically.

Even if the game released in a "perfect state" they would still need a roadmap for dlc and essentially developing the IP.

Sovrath · January 2021

remsleep said:

Sovrath said:

remsleep said:

Sovrath said:

Aeander said:

Non-service games shouldn't need roadmaps.

That only makes sense if the developer is going to make a "one off" and leave it at that and never revisit that game again.

It also makes sense when the release is an actually completed stable game and not an unfinished bugged to hell alpha build - which is what PS4 got basically.

Even if the game released in a "perfect state" they would still need a roadmap for dlc and essentially developing the IP.

If the game as released in perfect state +all the cut content - the DLC would actually be something to look forward to.

Now the DLC is the cut content that didn't make it into release - so it's actually what we should have gotten already

Now now do we really know that for sure?

rojoArcueid · January 2021

remsleep said:

Mars_OMG said:

neat, free DLC updates

Free DLC = stuff that was meant to be done by launch, but didn't - so we are going to call it a "free DLC" so that people think we are good guys and are doing them a favor

There's so much cut content - that the next 6 DLCs are probably all the crap they promised in those sweet promo videos, that got cut. So realistically - all the DLCs should be free until they catch up to the "stuff we promised prior to release" - and after all those features are finally back - then start charging us for actual DLCs.

would you rather they charge for those DLCs like the other companies have done before? it doesn't matter if that was the cut content, they are adding it for free as it should be. Yes it is called DLC because it will be a DLC... Downloadable Content.

You now sound like Wizardry.

Scorchien · January 2021

There is a real concern i have for any of this to happen , OGTLF continues to bleed stock is now down 46% from 2077 release shredding 3 and 1/2 Billion in Market value ..

Layoffs will be coming ..

Ill add , it may be adviseable to work on some good Witcher DLC at this time ..

imo

FrodoFragins · January 2021

Just a roadmap? Amateurs.

Let me know when they tell us about a roadmap for the roadmap that will be released 9 months later

Wizardry · January 2021

Here is how i see it.
You don't get to PRETEND you care later with apologies when you KNEW you were releasing a broken product.The real truth is they did NOT CARE so they can't now pretend they do.

Also you don't get to save face AFTER you already received millions in profits to say "ok now we are going to fix this".You do that BEFORE you sell your product.

So let me guess,they are talking roadmaps now because the yare trying to or maybe already have an ongoing revenue stream in place?Is this why they have multiplayer to create a cash shop,what are they going to have ..."seasons..seasons/passes?
They already failed imo and never had me fooled for even a second.

Wake me up when developers get serious with their games.

IceAge · January 2021

Scrolling down and looking for Kan..o, there he is! First in-line!

Game is great! Amazing actually.

One of the best. Best ever!!

Mensur · January 2021

I just dont understand how greed can over-write common sense. They knew it would hit them back in the face and yet they released it.

lahnmir · January 2021

remsleep said:

Sovrath said:

remsleep said:

Sovrath said:

remsleep said:

Sovrath said:

Aeander said:

Non-service games shouldn't need roadmaps.

That only makes sense if the developer is going to make a "one off" and leave it at that and never revisit that game again.

It also makes sense when the release is an actually completed stable game and not an unfinished bugged to hell alpha build - which is what PS4 got basically.

Even if the game released in a "perfect state" they would still need a roadmap for dlc and essentially developing the IP.

If the game as released in perfect state +all the cut content - the DLC would actually be something to look forward to.

Now the DLC is the cut content that didn't make it into release - so it's actually what we should have gotten already

Now now do we really know that for sure?

Lets wait and see - shall we?

Good advice, you should take it

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

Scot · January 2021

Mensur said:

I just dont understand how greed can over-write common sense. They knew it would hit them back in the face and yet they released it.

This puzzles me, the only thing that I have thought of is that the relationship between the management and developers has disconnected. This does happen, I remember EA's old CEO saying he would make accountants out of every developer so they never ran over budget. Management and the staff producing product do not always have a good relationship, it would be interesting to see where CD Projects management came from.

Do any of them have video game experience in their background? That former boss of EA I mentioned had not and the current board of EA has only one person with any sort of video game background. The current EA CEO was the one who was emphasising the upturn that Anthem was going to give to investors in the fall(?) quarter; this was at the start of the year, the game had to come out then, no matter what the developers thought. That is a recipe for disconnection and disaster.

alkarionlog · January 2021

I alwyas said the game would be done after x-mas, I just didn't know it would be 2021 x-mas

xpsync · January 2021

HOW DID the XBOX AND PS4 versions MAKE IT PAST CERT IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Cert is the last line of defence against fucked up games being released, and a hard af line to cross, yet some how they "BOTH" passed.

That's the serious WTF here? Fuck Projekt i mean they may have submiited it thinking it'd never pass.

We really can't put all the blame on them, MS and Sony fucked up even larger yet are taking no heat.

Scot · January 2021

xpsync said:

HOW DID the XBOX AND PS4 versions MAKE IT PAST CERT IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Cert is the last line of defence against fucked up games being released, and a hard af line to cross, yet some how they "BOTH" passed.

That's the serious WTF here? Fuck Projekt i mean they may have submiited it thinking it'd never pass.

We really can't put all the blame on them, MS and Sony fucked up even larger yet are taking no heat.

Supposedly they trusted CD Project to sort things out for launch, which does raise the question: is that what they always do? If you are a well known gaming company do you just get a pass on the checks?

xpsync · January 2021

Scot said:

xpsync said:

HOW DID the XBOX AND PS4 versions MAKE IT PAST CERT IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Cert is the last line of defence against fucked up games being released, and a hard af line to cross, yet some how they "BOTH" passed.

That's the serious WTF here? Fuck Projekt i mean they may have submiited it thinking it'd never pass.

We really can't put all the blame on them, MS and Sony fucked up even larger yet are taking no heat.

Supposedly they trusted CD Project to sort things out for launch, which does raise the question: is that what they always do? If you are a well known gaming company do you just get a pass on the checks?

After this shitstorm we can only hope they don't take that approach anymore, and i doubt they will.

All parties involved would have been so further along to announce it failed cert and will be released at a later date and players that got it would have been praising Cyberpunk, i think haven't gotten it yet, f i can't even gift it to my boys they don't want it, 3 sales not happening due to that shitstorm, now wait for a sale... maybe lol.

Cryomatrix · January 2021

Scorchien said:

There is a real concern i have for any of this to happen , OGTLF continues to bleed stock is now down 46% from 2077 release shredding 3 and 1/2 Billion in Market value ..

Layoffs will be coming ..

Ill add , it may be adviseable to work on some good Witcher DLC at this time ..

imo

Honestly,

I think the game has made money and that if they survive this, their stock will be valuable as they'll make Witcher 4 and then back goes the stock.

Scot · January 2021

Cryomatrix said:

Scorchien said:

There is a real concern i have for any of this to happen , OGTLF continues to bleed stock is now down 46% from 2077 release shredding 3 and 1/2 Billion in Market value ..

Layoffs will be coming ..

Ill add , it may be adviseable to work on some good Witcher DLC at this time ..

imo

Honestly,

I think the game has made money and that if they survive this, their stock will be valuable as they'll make Witcher 4 and then back goes the stock.

They won't get their reputation back so easily and with the same management team who is to say this will not happen again? As far as we can tell no one has been fired or faced any sort of penalty, the directors and management team sail on while the crew desperately try to sort this out. This is a test of their management, can they face up to what they have done or will they bunker down and pretend it had nothing to do with them, so far it has been the latter.

Scot · January 2021

Torval said:

Mensur said:

I just dont understand how greed can over-write common sense. They knew it would hit them back in the face and yet they released it.

This is more like the Space Shuttle disaster in the 80's. Self-preservation and fear of being "that guy" who rocked the boat. It's a management and leadership problem where those in the middle and below are afraid to tell the truth or give any answers but what the top wants to hear.

The expectation from the executives that it runs on PS4/Xbox wasn't necessarily greed based in itself. It's that they create an environment where hearing about it not working isn't acceptable. That doesn't absolve them of the issue. That sort of work environment is a horror and they should own up to it.

It is nothing to do with greed, do posters think the management team also decided to cancel Xmas? Like Torval says any organisation works on consensus, if that goes of track it can be hard to realise and if anyone pointed it out they would be seen as "off side". They clearly could not have been listening to what the development teams were saying though, after all it is their responsibility to get the business side right and this was a huge foul in those terms.

cloudacv · January 2021

Love the tears guys. Keep up the good work.

Sylvinstar · January 2021

With a lot of highly public missteps across multiple AAA game companies in the last several years you have to wonder if the overall process of making big budget games will need to change. A lot of the failures, (from Blizzard to Bioware, to Microsoft, to CDPR) have come from teams that are not exactly newbs to the process of making large games.

My takeaway is this: the challenges of creating games that will push the boundaries of gamers' expectations (this aint the days of Atari 2600 Golf y'all) from visuals, to story arcs, to game systems while keeping budget, profit and the health of dev teams in mind is immensly challenging. Oh and we all want those games to run on as many platforms as possible - and by 'we' I mean gamers (access to more titles) and publishers (more sales).

Just because we have greater tech now does not mean all games are easy to make. And from a publishers perspective, has anyone ever wondered what the return on investment is for games like CyberPunk vs. Candy Crush? Can't even be close.

What's my point? RPG fans are lucky that we still get the type of games we like at the current level of quality expected. I'm not excusing a breach in ethics, but a little perspective is important here.

As a side note - not to pile on CDPR because i wasn't interested nor invested in this game at all - I find this whole thing more than ironic considering the whole premise of this game's universe is fighting against large 'evil' corporations that can't be trusted.

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