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Magic: Legends Impressions - How Does The Magic ARPG Hold Up In The Early Hours? | MMORPG.com

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edited March 2021 in News & Features Discussion

imageMagic: Legends Impressions - How Does The Magic ARPG Hold Up In The Early Hours? | MMORPG.com

Magic: Legends launched in Open Beta earlier this week, and with it brings the card game's multiverse to the PC ARPG. We covered how the ARPG itself felt in a preview last week, but now that we have had a chance to go hands on ourselves in a live setting and check out the progression naturally for ourselves, how does the early hours of Cryptic's take on Magic: The Gathering fare?

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  • CelciusCelcius Member RarePosts: 1,878
    It is not a good game at all and is P2W to boot.
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  • goozmaniagoozmania Member RarePosts: 394
    I don't get the P2W nonsense; it isn't P2W, and there is no "winning", to begin with lol... It's a predominately single player PvE game.

    My issue with the game is the hit detection is off; there's lag between spell animations hitting enemies and their reaction to it. Summoned companions also seem pretty dumb.
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  • saurus123saurus123 Member UncommonPosts: 678

    goozmania said:

    I don't get the P2W nonsense; it isn't P2W, and there is no "winning", to begin with lol... It's a predominately single player PvE game.



    My issue with the game is the hit detection is off; there's lag between spell animations hitting enemies and their reaction to it. Summoned companions also seem pretty dumb.



    pvp will be a big focus in this game, at least the devs said it
  • HyperpsycrowHyperpsycrow Member RarePosts: 954
    edited March 2021
    P2w and single player are 2 strong words that makes me say BUBYE !!
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  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,779
    I tried for a couple of hours and it was extremely boring, had a lot of rubber banding, had the same awful cash shop systems that Neverwinter had with the weird refining of currency (that has a daily cap that I'm SURE will somehow have a cash shop workaround) and the currency directly upgrades cards. It just feels really bad to play. It feels worse than Torchlight 3 did and that game was awful.
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  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Member UncommonPosts: 2,051
    I enjoy the game at the moment. Until I feel pushed to the cash shop. Yesterday was bad with rubberbanding but today has been smooth-ish so far.
  • sakersaker Member RarePosts: 1,458
    I found the controls "awkward", and the whole thing not exciting, and I agree with the review, Cryptic really milkin this cow dry. Like a cash shop with a game applied on top... Any real character "customization" being a purely cha-ching $$$ right from the get-go.
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  • TwistedSister77TwistedSister77 Member EpicPosts: 1,144
    edited March 2021
    Wait... cash shops, and extreme ones... IN BETA!!! :o

    I guess threre isn't a wipe or true testing?  Maybe they are actually testing price elasticity of how much they can fleece in the cash shop?

    What about trading rare cards? Will that be allowed, if so... begging for RMT infestation.  If not, not a true magic the gathering game... screwed either way because of their greed.
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  • goozmaniagoozmania Member RarePosts: 394


    Wait... cash shops, and extreme ones... IN BETA...

    I guess threre isn't a wipe or true testing?  Maybe they are actually testing price elasticity of how much they can fleece in the cash shop?



    Open betas are a farce. They are used by devs to just release a game and then have a permanent excuse for any bugs or issues.
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,485
    I know it shouldn't but it's really starting to frustrate me that the biggest IPs are allowed to be the biggest failures when it comes to gaming due to greed and laziness.
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  • TwistedSister77TwistedSister77 Member EpicPosts: 1,144
    goozmania said:


    Wait... cash shops, and extreme ones... IN BETA...

    I guess threre isn't a wipe or true testing?  Maybe they are actually testing price elasticity of how much they can fleece in the cash shop?



    Open betas are a farce. They are used by devs to just release a game and then have a permanent excuse for any bugs or issues.
    Not always, Crowfall had an open free beta last summer, Mortal Online 2 had one last November and is currently having one, New World had a preorder beta last September. 

    Those games have made some pretty big changes and delayed their games.  Maybe the exceptions, not the rule.  I will not pay or preorder to be in beta.
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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    What if the reason they wanted to make a game based on the Magic IP was precisely so that it would give them an excuse for the predatory monetization? Is it even a real Magic game if it's not heavily pay to win?
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  • BrotherMaynardBrotherMaynard Member RarePosts: 647
    goozmania said:
    I don't get the P2W nonsense; it isn't P2W, and there is no "winning", to begin with lol... It's a predominately single player PvE game.

    My issue with the game is the hit detection is off; there's lag between spell animations hitting enemies and their reaction to it. Summoned companions also seem pretty dumb.

    There are too many reports of the gameplay being heavily penalised if you don't cough up some $$$ - like the Dimir assassin (and presumably future classes) taking hundreds or thousands of hours to farm if you don't want to use your credit card. Among other similar issues.

    You know, the usual "create a problem, sell the solution" BS. It seems this is what the game is about.

    "it's a single player PvE game, so it can't be P2W" my ass: if it is a SP PvE game, WTF is any cash shop doing there?!


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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    goozmania said:


    Wait... cash shops, and extreme ones... IN BETA...

    I guess threre isn't a wipe or true testing?  Maybe they are actually testing price elasticity of how much they can fleece in the cash shop?



    Open betas are a farce. They are used by devs to just release a game and then have a permanent excuse for any bugs or issues.
    If you don't want to play betas because they tend to be too buggy, then don't.  No one is forcing you to.  If developers tell you that the game isn't yet ready for release because there are still problems, you could just believe them and wait until they say that it is ready for release before playing.
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  • kertinkertin Member UncommonPosts: 259
    lots of bugs, hit detection non-existant, not good optimized, slow, awful camera and I could just go on...
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  • vegetableoilvegetableoil Member RarePosts: 768
    Believe it or not, I actually fell asleep on my keyboard while playing this.
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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,057
    edited March 2021
    I tried the necro and was bored to death within an hour. The deck system just means I have to use lesser spells to find the ones I like. Add in a P2W and predatory cash shop and I noped out. 3/10 game based on my gameplay, the shop and what I've seen on streams.
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  • KaliGoldKaliGold Member UncommonPosts: 138
    Please note that the game has a currency exchange in which you exchange Aether for Zen. Everything that can be bought with cash can be bought with Zen.

    This makes the game 100% free to play for those that understand. Yes, it may take more time compared to someone spending cash right away, but that should be expected.

    I myself am playing the game 100% free and accumulating Zen in small amounts daily.

    Many people are seeing a Cryptic game for the first time, and just dont get it, and make assumptions which confuses everyone.

    The game itself feels like an MMO to me but with a broken camera angle. I think the game has alot of promise and great progression systems, but is obviously a bit rough around the edges.

    These things will be fixed over time and I expect the game to be really big especially when it hits the consoles.

    Check me out on Twitch if you want to see my journey...im streaming it almost everyday.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,061
    This sounds absolutely miserable. Randomized skills and pay to win have no place in an ARPG.
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  • JyiigaJyiiga Member UncommonPosts: 1,187
    I didn't make it far. I will wait for more reviews and see how it develops. I was pretty disappointed in the bland character creation options. The engine is dated, everyone looks like they are made out of plastic or playdough.

    I also don't like that a game that only supports 3 players in an instance is being labeled as an MMO. There is very little that is MASSIVE about this title.
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  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Member RarePosts: 4,006

    saker said:

    I found the controls "awkward", and the whole thing not exciting, and I agree with the review, Cryptic really milkin this cow dry. Like a cash shop with a game applied on top... Any real character "customization" being a purely cha-ching $$$ right from the get-go.



    Couldn't have said it better myself.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    I'll stick to Last Epoch, thank you. Eleventh Hour actually knows what ARPGs are about.
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  • JyiigaJyiiga Member UncommonPosts: 1,187
    edited March 2021


    I tried the necro and was bored to death within an hour. The deck system just means I have to use lesser spells to find the ones I like. Add in a P2W and predatory cash shop and I noped out.

    3/10 game based on my gameplay, the shop and what I've seen on streams.



    This is what I was hearing from other folks. Some try to say it makes things more thought provoking but then it quickly turns into just spamming whatever you have without really thinking about it.

    I find it sad that remake Diablo 2 is going to have more depth than a brand new ARPG title.
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  • XatshXatsh Member RarePosts: 451
    The cashshop is enough to keep me away from it.

    Sure you can play it free but with the limitations and limited rewards ingame... paying tons is the only way I see enjoying playing this game more then casually. And that garbage can stay on cell phone games.

    Graphics are meh. Optimization is trash tier bad... they need to fix this asap or stop taking peoples money.

    Honestly I see nothing in this that will take me away from PoE.


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  • volttvoltt Member UncommonPosts: 432
    I actually enjoying the game so far. Card system is interesting. Camera angle etc is horrible needs work there for sure
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