Blizzard Changes Course On WoW Classic Clone Pricing, Lowers Cost To $15 | MMORPG.com

System · May 2021

Blizzard Changes Course On WoW Classic Clone Pricing, Lowers Cost To $15 | MMORPG.com

Blizzard's upcoming Burning Crusade expansion for WoW Classic will be here on June 1st, though that hasn't stopped the company from taking in feedback about the packages and costs surrounding the upcoming launch. One such area has been the cost of cloning your character on both Classic and Burning Crusade servers. Blizzard today announced they would be lowering the cost of the cloning service, thanking players for their feedback and passion.

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Albatroes · May 2021

Didn't blizzard out polls or something during the beta that asked people what would be a reasonable price range for this (with the minimum being like 15$....)? This is just classic business practice at this point. They knew what they were doing and knights in white will praise them for it.

Wizardry · May 2021

I guarantee you i won't praise anything Blizzard does,i watched how they operate very closely the last 5 years and they are a very scummy business.

I look at this way,i can and have bought games i enjoy for 20-30 bucks and they are selling a cloned player for 15 ..lol.If they get even 100k players doing this that is a LOT of money,1.5 mil to be exact.

Hmm i know,maybe with all that added revenue they can bring back some of those employees they laid off,you know because Blizzard must be hurting for cash and all being a struggling business you know.

Then again compared to Kotcik's money that is like laundry money or a bingo card lol.

Awo303 · May 2021

Wow this feels dirty, Im pretty sure this is like... Hey hey hey... you wana buy this $10 thing for 50 bucks? no? ok well how about 25? its alot cheaper then 50...

blamo2000 · May 2021

I wish they would listen to the community about the arena changes. Does anyone agree with it? I haven't heard one person say they do.

Iselin · May 2021

blamo2000 said:

I wish they would listen to the community about the arena changes. Does anyone agree with it? I haven't heard one person say they do.

I've seen you post about this a couple of times. What are the arena changes?

A link will do if you don't feel like typing it out.

Albatroes · May 2021

Iselin said:

blamo2000 said:

I wish they would listen to the community about the arena changes. Does anyone agree with it? I haven't heard one person say they do.

I've seen you post about this a couple of times. What are the arena changes?

A link will do if you don't feel like typing it out.

https://dotesports.com/wow/news/blizzard-making-changes-matchmaking-burning-crusade-classic

FrodoFragins · May 2021

Well at least they are pricing cloning more reasonably. I still think it should be automatic and that they just merged classic servers as needed based on active pops.

I wish they didn't have boosts, but finding out it won't work for Blood Elves or Draenei makes it less problematic for me personally. A higher price for boosts also helps minimize how many people will be walking around Outland with fresh 58's.

I've gone against better judgement and decided to get started on a new server and resubbed for TBC. I think end game, even pre raid, is far better in TBC than Vanilla. And so I'd rather not miss out on the first month or two of TBC experience. WOTLK is the one I'm most excited for and can't imagine continuing past that if they decide to go with Cata.

ILLISET · May 2021

FrodoFragins said:

Well at least they are pricing cloning more reasonably. I still think it should be automatic and that they just merged classic servers as needed based on active pops.

I wish they didn't have boosts, but finding out it won't work for Blood Elves or Draenei makes it less problematic for me personally. A higher price for boosts also helps minimize how many people will be walking around Outland with fresh 58's.

I've gone against better judgement and decided to get started on a new server and resubbed for TBC. I think end game, even pre raid, is far better in TBC than Vanilla. And so I'd rather not miss out on the first month or two of TBC experience. WOTLK is the one I'm most excited for and can't imagine continuing past that if they decide to go with Cata.

If they go with Cata they have to totally change thr game because origjnsk cats ruined it for so many.

foppotee · May 2021

Wow, I was pondering whether or not they were going to lower the price a bit as part of a 2-steps forward 1 step-back marketing ploy. I was thinking at $25, but $15 is unexpected to me. Much better for all you WoW players.

Kyleran · May 2021

Iselin said:

blamo2000 said:

I wish they would listen to the community about the arena changes. Does anyone agree with it? I haven't heard one person say they do.

I've seen you post about this a couple of times. What are the arena changes?

A link will do if you don't feel like typing it out.

I hate links. The better question is what do they not like about the changes.

Player versus Player

To bring about better matchmaking in Burning Crusade Classic, we’re updating the Matchmaking Rating (MMR) system to use a calculation design developed after original Burning Crusade, with an MMR range that will be similar to the range seen in PvP in 2008.

Arena Teams will begin at 0 rating. (Teams began at 1500 in original Burning Crusade.)Diminishing returns will have a 15-20 second cooldown window.All PvP gear will have consistent personal rating requirements to purchase and equip.Shoulders = 2200Weapon = 2050Head = 1700Chest = 1600Legs = 1550

A major goal we have in Burning Crusade Classic PvP is to provide consistency as we step forward through each Season and phase of content. We believe this will promote a healthier PvP environment that emphasizes the prestige players can feel when obtaining shoulders and weapons in particular.

All Arena point costs for Arena gear will remain consistent for all Burning Crusade Classic Arena seasons.Arena points are awarded during the weekly reset, and are based on the team that earned the most points.To qualify for Arena points, your personal rating must be within 150 of the rating of your team, with at least 10 games played, and you must have participated in 30% of your team’s games the previous week.Season 1 will feature a unique Rank 1 title, the Infernal Gladiator.Originally, Rank 1 titles weren’t introduced until Season 2. This is a good opportunity to introduce one for the first season of Burning Crusade Classic.Seasonal rewards will be delivered to players who reach a top percentage of teams per bracket in their region:Rank 1 = 0.1% of top teamsGladiator = 0.5%Duelist = 3%Rival = 10%Challenger = 35%To qualify for a seasonal reward, your personal arena rating needs to be within 100 points of your team’s rating, and you must have participated in 20% of your team’s games.The Gold/Green Arena flags have been changed to Gold/Purple to improve colorblind accessibility.Tornadoes will randomly spawn in Nagrand Arena in Season 1.We want to recreate the experience of these unique map mechanics as they were originally introduced.

PvP vendors have been configured to make Season 1 behave more like subsequent seasons than it did in original Burning Crusade.

Iselin · May 2021

@Kyleran

From what I gather after reading a couple of posts in the forum is that they are putting high requirements on gear unlocks similar to those that exist in retail WoW tanked arenas but people are saying that won't work in TBC because retail takes advantage of the larger population of cross-server queues but TBC doesn't so it will be dead.

I've never played ranked arenas because the whole idea of arenas in an MMO never appealed to me - I'm more of a large scale RvR PvPer something that WoW has never been good at.

I may have it wrong but I think that's the main beef.

sk8chalif · May 2021

Marketing 101

blamo2000 · May 2021

Iselin said:

@Kyleran

From what I gather after reading a couple of posts in the forum is that they are putting high requirements on gear unlocks similar to those that exist in retail WoW tanked arenas but people are saying that won't work in TBC because retail takes advantage of the larger population of cross-server queues but TBC doesn't so it will be dead.

I've never played ranked arenas because the whole idea of arenas in an MMO never appealed to me - I'm more of a large scale RvR PvPer something that WoW has never been good at.

I may have it wrong but I think that's the main beef.

Not just that. in BC they called them welfare epics. Almost everyone did 10 arenas a week to get them. When you queued for an arena in popped quick and with a variety of groups. And almost everyone tried. It was a lot of fun for almost everyone.

The people on the forums are a lot better at words and communicating (and smarter) than I am, so I suggest reading their posts as I am not doing it justice when it comes to the big picture. My two main reasons are 1) I don't want to wait in queue forever to fight the same small handful of groups over and over. 2) Slippery slope - Since Blizzard started opening the door to making changes in Classic and BC they become more heavy handed in it. You can reason out anything. Why not get rid of the talent trees against because of reasons? Welfare epics and starting at 1500 was a huge, long part of BC. How can you remake BC without it?

xpsync · May 2021

It's interesting the divide of when mmorpg's were communities, worlds people worked and played in together, to the switch of we'll pay anything just don't make us play with other people and or work for anything and let's not forget the most important thing of all, i want it now! and is why over 99% of mmorpg's today are solo rpg games you play with other people around. Which ultimately makes them boring af in time.

This got even worse when they started to make them playable for couch potatoes, there is now no possible way to make top tier hard af content on a console.

So i rally behind Blizz, they have stayed true to PC (only platform you can make hard af content on) and they still make it hard af content compared to the overly care bear mmorpgs we have today. Barely a cash shop, if you can even call it that compared to the appalling cash grab cash shops which litter all mmorpg's today.

In addition they stayed loyal to the #nochanges in Classic, just pay your sub enjoy a world free of greed, which was a pleasure to play btw and as far as BCC and Classic Wrath i already knew i wasn't going to bother, just no interest, but then this...

Buy a collector edition? a boost wtf? A plethora of #pleasemakeiteveneasierhave$$donotworrywewillpay changes and to top it off with NOT EVEN ONE free clone, and 35 bones, well i guess even the i want it now crowd has limits lmao, nice to know they have some backbone.

TO Now only $15? if there was at least one free one i would understand and feel 15 is reasonably priced. I mean it goes to show what blizz thinks of this crowd, their cash cow crowd ofc, but it's these people that cultivated this behavior from the company, can you really blame them?

In that check the difference from #nochanges real og mmorpg players and guess what no changes, not a whisper of extra's you can pay for like boosts, collector editions, where to BCC the money siphon is in full swing.

And that is the divide, when the audience is one way they don't make any changes at all, when it's the other way they go overboard with the money siphon, but again, can't blame them if people are screaming take my money... right?

ILLISET · May 2021

xpsync said:

It's interesting the divide of when mmorpg's were communities, worlds people worked and played in together, to the switch of we'll pay anything just don't make us play with other people and or work for anything and let's not forget the most important thing of all, i want it now! and is why over 99% of mmorpg's today are solo rpg games you play with other people around. Which ultimately makes them boring af in time.

This got even worse when they started to make them playable for couch potatoes, there is now no possible way to make top tier hard af content on a console.

So i rally behind Blizz, they have stayed true to PC (only platform you can make hard af content on) and they still make it hard af content compared to the overly care bear mmorpgs we have today. Barely a cash shop, if you can even call it that compared to the appalling cash grab cash shops which litter all mmorpg's today.

In addition they stayed loyal to the #nochanges in Classic, just pay your sub enjoy a world free of greed, which was a pleasure to play btw and as far as BCC and Classic Wrath i already knew i wasn't going to bother, just no interest, but then this...

Buy a collector edition? a boost wtf? A plethora of #pleasemakeiteveneasierhave$$donotworrywewillpay changes and to top it off with NOT EVEN ONE free clone, and 35 bones, well i guess even the i want it now crowd has limits lmao, nice to know they have some backbone.

TO Now only $15? if there was at least one free one i would understand and feel 15 is reasonably priced. I mean it goes to show what blizz thinks of this crowd, their cash cow crowd ofc, but it's these people that cultivated this behavior from the company, can you really blame them?

In that check the difference from #nochanges real og mmorpg players and guess what no changes, not a whisper of extra's you can pay for like boosts, collector editions, where to BCC the money siphon is in full swing.

And that is the divide, when the audience is one way they don't make any changes at all, when it's the other way they go overboard with the money siphon, but again, can't blame them if people are screaming take my money... right?

They did not stay true to the nochanges in classic. I'm guessing you didn't play all the way through. Friendly players can resist dispels, chronoboons, and much more smaller things here and there.

They def. Aren't staying true to the no changes in TBC. You're entire post is just so incorrect I'm convinced you have utterly no idea what you're talking about. Did you even play classic or did you just try it out?

xpsync · May 2021

"much more smaller things"

You mean barely registers compared to the changes going on in BCC, boots ffs and nice troll attempt lmao

I take it you're a "i want it now" player, that's ok enjoy spending, it's what you do best.

corrosivechains · May 2021

this 100% was always the plan and isn't the first time Activision has done this. Start off with a high price so when they drop it to what they really were going to charge it makes them look like they're listening. But problem is they've done this bait and switch too many times for anyone to not see it for what it is.

They're charging people $15 for something that's completely automated and at best costs pennies to do.

illutian · May 2021

The company I work for does this...

Over charges for its product, but offers perpetual/rolling discounts to make it SEEM like you're getting a deal.

Blizzard did just that. Over priced the service then reduced it to still above what most thought it would be; $10.

Celcius · May 2021

Ah yes, price anchoring. Activision Blizzard practically wrote the book on this. I am oh so greatful that in their benevolence they bestowed upon me such a great bargain!

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