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GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,609
in Hardware
Right, so I got a Blue Screen out of nowhere and now my computer won't even power on. It acts just like when a car don't have enough power. I try to power it on, it begins the process, but gives up while doing it. It just...falters.

What is this? PSU is gone, innit? What caused it all of a sudden(I mean, I did have some weird system lockups from time to time for the past...month or two)?

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  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,609
    Can a failed CPU cause this?
  • Po_ggPo_gg Member EpicPosts: 5,749
    While PSUs are notorious about being the source of all kinda weird errors and glitches, I doubt it's the case this time, with lockups for a while and BSOD... they're mostly gone in a puff of smoke :)  
    Especially if the gear actually powers on and starts to boot in. It still can be a source though, so checking it with a PSU tester or manually with a multimeter can't hurt. There's a small chance one of its lines wore out, or there's a shortage somewhere. Really small chance though, with modern PSUs with all kinda protections built-in.

    But of course let's wait for Quizz for a more professional answer.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,420
    edited May 2021
    You should be able to tell if the PSU is working, does it warm up/light show it is steadily on? Do you see those silly LED lights coming/staying on in your PC? This does not sound like a PSU issue, 
    Po_gg
  • sniperman248sniperman248 Member UncommonPosts: 38
    Honestly blue screen could mean alot of things, i would personally do a ram check first like remove one see if the build becomes stable to boot up, if that doesnt work, if you by chance have any cpus laying around that are compatible with the board then i would suggest testing that, and there is also one other thing if the mobo is one of those that requires a working graphics card to even push into the boot process it could be the gpu. 
  • Po_ggPo_gg Member EpicPosts: 5,749
    Yep, if the gear starts to boot then stucks somewhere, probably the PSU is fine.
    It's fairly easy now to notice when they're wrong (wasn't the case 15-20 years ago), they either won't turn on at all, or just turn on for a few sec then turn off right away (to protect the rest of the gear).

    Another component's fault is more likely, can you reach until the BIOS during the boot?
  • RungarRungar Member RarePosts: 1,132
    pull out the graphics card and see if it boots up. 
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Can you boot into safe mode?
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  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,609
    Nevermind, it turns out I was manually shutting down my pc. ...the power on button shouldn't really be used to power off the system.

    Regardless, it'd seem this entire ruckus was caused by another kernel power 41 error. This crap keeps happening intermittently, what's up with that?
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,420
    Crikey, only use the Shut Down option from "Start" to turn her off. What version of Windows are you using?
    Gdemami
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404
    Why would you manually shut your computer down when there is a shutdown option? That is bound to cause a whole lot of errors.
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  • sniperman248sniperman248 Member UncommonPosts: 38
    Basically for that error you need to reinstall your chipset drivers and well my one friend had to go as far as to undervolt the cpu
  • GladDogGladDog Member RarePosts: 1,097
    edited May 2021
    Before you spend any time in troubleshooting or replacing parts, try these two steps;

    1) Press and hold the power button for 45 seconds, wait ten seconds, then restart.  That will reset the BIOS.

    2) If that does not work, try looking in your manual to see how to do a manual restart of the BIOS.  BSODs mean either the operating system is corrupted, or far more likely, that the BIOS needs to be updated.  Those two steps should at least get your computer running so you can try a BIOS update.

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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Usually you can check for a couple lights or codes on your motherboard that will tell you whether your cpu or ram is faulty.


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  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,609
    cheyane said:
    Why would you manually shut your computer down when there is a shutdown option? That is bound to cause a whole lot of errors.

    You misunderstood. I was shutting it down by accident because I kept the button pressed for some time instead of just one quick click and done. Basically, I didn't allow the computer to start. You can bet I'll do something awkward with my hands, you just can!
  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    You can set what the Power button does in Windows:

    https://www.windowscentral.com/how-customize-power-button-action-when-pressed-windows-10

    But for most systems - holding for 5 seconds is equivalent to a hard shutdown.
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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    That's a new one.  I had never heard of anyone doing that before.  It had never occurred to me that you could hold the power button for an extended period of time when trying to turn the computer on, though it's obvious that it is physically possible when you stop to think about it.

    Normally holding the power button down is a way to power off the system when it is completely locked up and unresponsive, so that you can't just do a reboot or shutdown by any normal software means.  It's less hazardous than physically pulling the power plug.

    The good news is that what you did probably won't hurt anything, at least beyond scaring you.  System power consumption at launch is generally pretty low, as there's very little load on the CPU and GPU.  It also doesn't have the same data corruption risk as abruptly losing power in the middle of a computer running, as that's typically caused by a partially saved file being unable to finish, leaving it in a bad state that matches neither the previous state of the file nor the intended new one, and it shouldn't be permanently saving files to disk so soon in the launch process.

    In other news, this is the sort of thread that lets you see who read the whole thread before replying.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,420
    edited May 2021
    Gorwe said:
    cheyane said:
    Why would you manually shut your computer down when there is a shutdown option? That is bound to cause a whole lot of errors.

    You misunderstood. I was shutting it down by accident because I kept the button pressed for some time instead of just one quick click and done. Basically, I didn't allow the computer to start. You can bet I'll do something awkward with my hands, you just can!
    My dad sometimes holds the green button on his mobile down so long he does not get the call. That said he gets through about one "dad's" mobile every two years and these are pretty robust models. :)
    Po_gg
  • Po_ggPo_gg Member EpicPosts: 5,749
    Gorwe said:
    cheyane said:
    Why would you manually shut your computer down when there is a shutdown option? That is bound to cause a whole lot of errors.

    You misunderstood. I was shutting it down by accident because I kept the button pressed for some time instead of just one quick click and done. Basically, I didn't allow the computer to start. You can bet I'll do something awkward with my hands, you just can!
    That's.... unprecedented :)  I'm certain nobody has thought on that solution.

    Scot's mobile notion can be a good source for that, while PCs (and MCs before that) always used a switch or a single push button, mobiles have this "keep the button pressed for 2 sec to turn it on".
    Actually, recently I've started to see the similar in notebooks as well, especially ultrabooks with the power button is on the keyboard.

    It could lead to confusion indeed, still, I admit I haven't thought about this could be the source of the issue... there's something new to learn every day :)
    Gorwe
  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,609
    Thank you everyone for replying!
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404
    That is what I cannot understand if he has owned a computer for this long judging from the number of games he plays and comments on why would he try to turn it on by holding the button for too long. That does not make any sense.

    On the other hand my Alienware has such a bad button that I have to hit it just right for it to turn on, could take me 5 minutes to turn it on. In the end I ripped off the casing on the button and I use a pen to depress whatever little depression I can target.

    I hope your problem isn't like mine.
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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    Mars_OMG said:
    Gorwe said:
    Right, so I got a Blue Screen out of nowhere and now my computer won't even power on. It acts just like when a car don't have enough power. I try to power it on, it begins the process, but gives up while doing it. It just...falters.

    What is this? PSU is gone, innit? What caused it all of a sudden(I mean, I did have some weird system lockups from time to time for the past...month or two)?
    change the battery for the bios. There's a flat battery  on the motherboard that controls the bios hardware info, change that first to a fresh one before undergoing serious troubleshooting.
    A dead BIOS battery wouldn't cause intermittent kernel power 41 errors.
     
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