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ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
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   Even at this stage of its EA this is a very enjoyable , immersive challenging and engaging game ...

    Recommended for any TB rogue-like fan ..


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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,053
    Uhh, early access, just no.

    ”Not worth the full price, yet. But you can easily get 8 hrs of fun out of the current state.”

    Anything under 100 hrs isn't worth the time to download.

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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,052
    edited June 2020
    I have been eyeing this one myself. Does seem a bit early to join right now though.

    /Cheers,
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    It is just huge resource waste....'

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    edited June 2020
    Kyleran said:
    Uhh, early access, just no.

    ”Not worth the full price, yet. But you can easily get 8 hrs of fun out of the current state.”

    Anything under 100 hrs isn't worth the time to download.


    First of all Worth is a pretty subjective word , for some folks money has very different value and worth ..

       As in all EA titles , some think its WORTH supporting an specific Indie or project ..

        Some think its WORTH the time to be involved in development .. ( This indie is gathering data form all players involved in EA)
       
      A fan of a specific IP may think its WORTH the support

      Much like you , yourself supported FO76 , which many think was not WORTH it ..

             The campaign is short .. the Conquest mode is near endless with many players booking over the 100 hours you consider WORTH..

     I will add that i have backed many EA games suggested many here in EA that have gone on  to do well ..

      But  also we all know by now ( common sense) DO not buy EA unless you want to be involved in development and/or want to support a specific Dev/project..

      Your one liner and cherry picking of reviews , really have NO WORTH to this discussion IMO , as you did not do your research , which one should do before any purchase that they are weighing its WORTH

     
    Post edited by Scorchien on
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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    edited June 2020
    Roguelite is those games that get harder and harder right ? I like those like Darkest Dungeon but not ones where insane traps fling from every pore ready to impale and kill me for one misstep.

    I can spend hours in games some people finish in 10 hours so amount of content is very subjective for me. I am one of those people that can spend hours exploring. I stretch content like chewing gum no problem there with actual number of hours. 

    A game can be 8 hours long but provides oodles more fun than one with 40 hours to its length. If you explore and have places to find things it can simply be loads of fun.
    Scorchien

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    I been asking for a very long time for someone to step up and do the card idea in a real rpg setting so i guess this is it.
    The only issue i would have is depth and i am not getting into any more card buying in games..EVER again.
    If these cards are EARNED and not bought and there is more to the game than appearing like a Dark Souls game,i might give it a try.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,053
    edited June 2020
    Scorchien said:
    Kyleran said:
    Uhh, early access, just no.

    ”Not worth the full price, yet. But you can easily get 8 hrs of fun out of the current state.”

    Anything under 100 hrs isn't worth the time to download.



      Your one liner and cherry picking of reviews , really have NO WORTH to this discussion IMO , as you did not do your research , which one should do before any purchase that they are weighing its WORTH

     
    How many cherries must one pick to prove their point?

    "The price tag for it's current rendition as others have stated is far too high. Due to it's Pre Alpha/Demo State."

    ”Definitely a lot of work to be done here though.”
     
    ”Could this game be fun eventually? Yes. Is it worth even looking at right now? No.”
     
    "Even for Early Access this game is twice the price it should be, so I strongly recommend passing on the game. Not much was improved in the half year since backers first got to lay hands on it so I'm not enthusiastic, but let's talk again when it comes out of early access anyway, yeah?"

    I'm on a crusade to kill the concept of early access which can't DIAF soon enough.

    For every good EA title there are a hundred crap ones, gaming would be much better off without them.

    How about one more for the road?

    "The game is absoutely not worth $25; Not in its current state, not by a long shot. It's "pre-release demo" quality. Both the campaign and conquest modes are short, simplistic, unoptimized, and unbalanced.”

    IMO you do others a disservice promoting such games so expect future opposition.

    Enuff said.


     


    Gdemami

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    edited June 2020
    Kyleran said:
    Scorchien said:
    Kyleran said:
    Uhh, early access, just no.

    ”Not worth the full price, yet. But you can easily get 8 hrs of fun out of the current state.”

    Anything under 100 hrs isn't worth the time to download.



      Your one liner and cherry picking of reviews , really have NO WORTH to this discussion IMO , as you did not do your research , which one should do before any purchase that they are weighing its WORTH

     
    How many cherries must one pick to prove their point?

    "The price tag for it's current rendition as others have stated is far too high. Due to it's Pre Alpha/Demo State."

    ”Definitely a lot of work to be done here though.”
     
    ”Could this game be fun eventually? Yes. Is it worth even looking at right now? No.”
     
    "Even for Early Access this game is twice the price it should be, so I strongly recommend passing on the game. Not much was improved in the half year since backers first got to lay hands on it so I'm not enthusiastic, but let's talk again when it comes out of early access anyway, yeah?"

    I'm on a crusade to kill the concept of early access which can't DIAF soon enough.

    For every good EA title there are a hundred crap ones, gaming would be much better off without them.

    How about one more for the road?

    "The game is absoutely not worth $25; Not in its current state, not by a long shot. It's "pre-release demo" quality. Both the campaign and conquest modes are short, simplistic, unoptimized, and unbalanced.”

    IMO you do others a disservice promoting such games so expect future opposition.

    Enuff said.


     



    you can always pick shit , comments from every game ever made , the fact you avoided the rest of the post speaks volumes ..

     Seems cherry picking is your thing these days ..



     Nuff said :)
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,925
    And yet no one has commented on that idea that the title sounds like an 80's metal band?
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,053
    edited June 2020
    Scorchien said:
    Kyleran said:
    Scorchien said:
    Kyleran said:
    Uhh, early access, just no.

    ”Not worth the full price, yet. But you can easily get 8 hrs of fun out of the current state.”

    Anything under 100 hrs isn't worth the time to download.



      Your one liner and cherry picking of reviews , really have NO WORTH to this discussion IMO , as you did not do your research , which one should do before any purchase that they are weighing its WORTH

     
    How many cherries must one pick to prove their point?

    "The price tag for it's current rendition as others have stated is far too high. Due to it's Pre Alpha/Demo State."

    ”Definitely a lot of work to be done here though.”
     
    ”Could this game be fun eventually? Yes. Is it worth even looking at right now? No.”
     
    "Even for Early Access this game is twice the price it should be, so I strongly recommend passing on the game. Not much was improved in the half year since backers first got to lay hands on it so I'm not enthusiastic, but let's talk again when it comes out of early access anyway, yeah?"

    I'm on a crusade to kill the concept of early access which can't DIAF soon enough.

    For every good EA title there are a hundred crap ones, gaming would be much better off without them.

    How about one more for the road?

    "The game is absoutely not worth $25; Not in its current state, not by a long shot. It's "pre-release demo" quality. Both the campaign and conquest modes are short, simplistic, unoptimized, and unbalanced.”

    IMO you do others a disservice promoting such games so expect future opposition.

    Enuff said.


     



    you can always pick shit , comments from every game ever made , the fact you avoided the rest of the post speaks volumes ..

     Seems cherry picking is your thing these days ..



     Nuff said :)

    One can always pick overly positive posts for every game.  I focus on what matters most to me, complete, well made games with huge logevity, as I said 100 hours or more.

    I found plenty of evidence even from the highly recommend posts which well demonstrate this game doesn't meet the above standards and I'm not one to believe it ever will be until it actually releases.

    Its OK, I understand many people play early access aka bad games, my role is to try and prevent others from making similar mistakes.


    Gdemami

    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    Kyleran said:
    Scorchien said:
    Kyleran said:
    Scorchien said:
    Kyleran said:
    Uhh, early access, just no.

    ”Not worth the full price, yet. But you can easily get 8 hrs of fun out of the current state.”

    Anything under 100 hrs isn't worth the time to download.



      Your one liner and cherry picking of reviews , really have NO WORTH to this discussion IMO , as you did not do your research , which one should do before any purchase that they are weighing its WORTH

     
    How many cherries must one pick to prove their point?

    "The price tag for it's current rendition as others have stated is far too high. Due to it's Pre Alpha/Demo State."

    ”Definitely a lot of work to be done here though.”
     
    ”Could this game be fun eventually? Yes. Is it worth even looking at right now? No.”
     
    "Even for Early Access this game is twice the price it should be, so I strongly recommend passing on the game. Not much was improved in the half year since backers first got to lay hands on it so I'm not enthusiastic, but let's talk again when it comes out of early access anyway, yeah?"

    I'm on a crusade to kill the concept of early access which can't DIAF soon enough.

    For every good EA title there are a hundred crap ones, gaming would be much better off without them.

    How about one more for the road?

    "The game is absoutely not worth $25; Not in its current state, not by a long shot. It's "pre-release demo" quality. Both the campaign and conquest modes are short, simplistic, unoptimized, and unbalanced.”

    IMO you do others a disservice promoting such games so expect future opposition.

    Enuff said.


     



    you can always pick shit , comments from every game ever made , the fact you avoided the rest of the post speaks volumes ..

     Seems cherry picking is your thing these days ..



     Nuff said :)

    One can always pick overly positive posts for every game.  I focus on what matters most to me, complete, well made games with huge logevity, as I said 100 hours or more.

    I found plenty of evidence even from the highly recommend posts which well demonstrate this game doesn't meet the above standards and I'm not one to believe it ever will be until it actually releases.

    Its OK, I understand many people play early access aka bad games, my role is to try and prevent others from making similar mistakes.



    Complete well made games...

     Is that like when you backed FO76 ... lmfao

     And again avoiding the entire post for your trivial meaningless WORTHless crusade that you think you are helping anyone ..
      Get over your self ..

  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    I think the international conversion is traditionally 5 cherries a point.


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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited June 2020
    Kyleran said:
    Uhh, early access, just no.


    Is that only the case for you when it's officially labeled "early access" or does it also apply when a game is "launched" as an unfinished buggy mess like FO76? :)
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  • StoneRosesStoneRoses Member RarePosts: 1,814
    Scorchien said:
       Even at this stage of its EA this is a very enjoyable , immersive challenging and engaging game ...

        Recommended for any TB rogue-like fan ..


    Nice find!
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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    Another really nice update dropped..

      Game gets better and better .. just awesome.. On sale this weekend also


  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,053
    From reading the recent reviews and comments this game is the polar opposite of Valheim in terms of polish, play times by almost all commentators are rounding errors compared to most other games.


    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,649
    Single Player...  I already have far too many which I never even started.

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    Really amazing update leading up to launch here TG,  Game is just great now , atmosphere is soo well done , Tactics are indepth and complex ..Storytelling has taken a huge step ...


  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member RarePosts: 451
    I recommend the.board game for anybody into tabletops 
  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    Launched ... Woot!! 

      Great Game was really fun testing this one and interacting with this team the past year ..

      Highly recommend


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