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No open beta?

NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
I know I feel like every company should have at least a one week open beta to work out server loads and any bugs that the public might find, plus as a free trial before release. If there is no open beta it's gonna be a rocky release and what exactly are they hiding? Shouldn't the game be done 2-3 weeks before release and CD's burned and put in boxes? Don't you want to have people playing your game and word of mouth spread so more will play?

Then again it could be crap and the company is just trying to get blind morons to buy it.


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  • ZorbaneZorbane Member UncommonPosts: 529
    Welcome to the world of Dark and Light
  • ZippyZippy Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,412


    Originally posted by nilden
    I know I feel like every company should have at least a one week open beta to work out server loads and any bugs that the public might find, plus as a free trial before release. If there is no open beta it's gonna be a rocky release and what exactly are they hiding? Shouldn't the game be done 2-3 weeks before release and CD's burned and put in boxes? Don't you want to have people playing your game and word of mouth spread so more will play?

    Then again it could be crap and the company is just trying to get blind morons to buy it.


    Rather than asking you to wade thru the muck of this forum I will attempt answer your questions by making some points which can easily be found by sampling the threads in these forums.

    1.  They do not need or want an open beta.  All Farlan cares about is taking peoples money.  If people were allowed to play the game for free in a open beta there is zero chance they will ever buy the game.  Rather they have resorted to you pre-order and you get into SoG. I can't recall a company more full of lies, deciet and dishonesty than Farlan.  The amount of promises, ouright lies, cover ups and blatant dishonesty is beyond imagination.  If one can go so far as to call a company purley evil then Farlan deserves that title.

    2.  The game has already failed there is no saving it.  Out of the 30,000 that got into SoG only about 100 still even play.  Or in otehr words 99.7% of the people who sample this game will not even play it for free.

    3.  Rocky release?  Game done 2-3 weeks to release?  You have to be kidding.  If this developement team had an additional 10 years to work on this game it would not even be close to being release ready.  I am not sure you aware how bad and incomplete this game is.  There is absolutely no content in this game.  Essentially it is a graphical chat room with a dragon flight simulator.  There is no combat system (actually there is a combat system but it is so poorly done its hard to acknowledge it), no quests, no pvp, no siege system, no politics, no social exp, no crafting, no harvesting, no resources, no waether effects, a few poorly built towns, few npcs,  all using 5-6 year old outdated graphics and nothing else.  The server is capped at 500 people.  After that they don't allow anyone else to log in as the server cannot handle anymore people.

    4.  They do not want word of mouth thats why the official forums are censored and cleansed on negative posts.  That is also why they hired two fanboys, almost certainly Blacksac and someone else, to post on forums such as this to trick people into thinking there might be an actual game being made.

    5.  Just in case you are not aware DnL is the king of bad unfinished, and incomplete games.  Those who have played this game should feel proud.  We have played the worst game ever developed.  Nothing has ever been close.  Last year I gladly forked over $20 to knowingly play the worst game ever developed which at the time was Mourning.  Mourning had a 1000 times more content, polish and resembalance to an actual game than DnL.  DnL is a game that is so bad it has to be experienced for yourself.

  • dont forget...they dont want to sell box game. they want download only. The only reason besides not wanting to waste money on the CD/packaging as they are a small company, they prolly wish to avoid that of the last game that came out 1000x better than theirs in which thousands sent back the boxes to the company! Besides, what would they put on their box as a description? Nothing. There is nothing in it.  LOL

    And it USED TO BE that virual download purchases werent really covered in consumer protection. However even in the last two years that has changed dramatically. Heavy hitting credit card companies and payment processing companies got tired of all the complaints and lawsuits regarding virtual purchases, many new laws and setpoints have been made to protect the consumer as well as the companies handling the payments. Not so sure Farlan is aware of the changes in virtual purchases protection, nor the laws of internet fraud (selling something that isnt what you advertised it to be as an enticement to purchase). May have been their plan 4+ years ago but currently there are many avenues customers have. And before anyone starts, there is international internet protection laws in place so dont tell me cuz they are on an island they are immune.

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604

    hmmmm, guess the answer is .....NO.

    Incredible. SOG WAS/IS the DNL BETA .

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604

    you can view the "beta" info in the Thread here at the boards titled From the stratics forum....

    http://mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/76025

  • IKShadowIKShadow Member UncommonPosts: 783


    Originally posted by Cholayna

    you can view the "beta" info in the Thread here at the boards titled From the stratics forum....
    http://mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/76025



    close beta info

    I thought this was the topic about open beta

    Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604
    There is no open beta and theres the proof.
  • ZorbaneZorbane Member UncommonPosts: 529


    Originally posted by IKShadow
    close beta info
    I thought this was the topic about open beta



    Okay lets talk about open beta

    This was on the website sometime before SoG started.  Remember though SoG is NOT the official stresstest according to AD

    http://www.darkandlight.net/article.php3?id_article=1295

    OPEN stress test sessions will soon begin in order to complete the work done by the Dark and Light development team and our beta testers. In order to allow the greatest number to be part of these important tests, or just to see how things are going on, we recommend that you check and, if necessary, update your profile, your e-mail address in particular.

    ...and if you have not subscribed yet, now is the time

    Well

    will soon begin

    We all know what soon means

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604
    guess now they wanna try and say the 11 days from close of SOG to the release of DNL will be the beta test we have all been waiting for. Pfft. They wouldnt dare have an open beta before the release, there is no way enough ppl would stick around and buy the thing before they had a chance to grab your money.
  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by Cholayna
    guess now they wanna try and say the 11 days from close of SOG to the release of DNL will be the beta test we have all been waiting for. Pfft. They wouldnt dare have an open beta before the release, there is no way enough ppl would stick around and buy the thing before they had a chance to grab your money.

    the above comment still stands. They wouldnt and they didnt dare have an open beta. stress or otherwise.
  • ZorbaneZorbane Member UncommonPosts: 529
    its kinda late to have one too
  • lysandinglysanding Member Posts: 154
    why is everyone here so filled with hatred.. we can all be dead tommorrow.. smoke the peace pipe.
  • IKShadowIKShadow Member UncommonPosts: 783


    Originally posted by lysanding
    why is everyone here so filled with hatred.. we can all be dead tommorrow.. smoke the peace pipe.

    Hehe its not realy that bad, here is mybe like 10 ppl that posts all that hate posts.
    The only sad thing is that once those ppl had very good valid points but lately some of them become to extreme and they start to attack everything and make flaming posts/remarks.


    Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]

  • AlouisiousAlouisious Member Posts: 201


    Originally posted by IKShadow

    Originally posted by lysanding
    why is everyone here so filled with hatred.. we can all be dead tommorrow.. smoke the peace pipe.

    Hehe its not realy that bad, here is mybe like 10 ppl that posts all that hate posts.
    The only sad thing is that once those ppl had very good valid points but lately some of them become to extreme and they start to attack everything and make flaming posts/remarks.


    These people STILL have valid points. Nothing has changed. Thats the point of the latest post. And I would have to say that many of the flames and posts/remarks you mention are in response to the flame that is directed to them. REad back over just the last few new threads here, all they are, are ppl flaming the VALID Posts. I see they have allowed you back. More of the same from you in this post alone. One very important statement however, the "very good valid points" STILL stand.
  • IKShadowIKShadow Member UncommonPosts: 783

    Its hard to see those "valid points" with in extremists posts.
    I know at beging you actualy could exchange oppinion about game state etc, however those times changed.
    ( I realy enjoy it, especialy Cholayna, Kilim, Zippy and Jackdog )

    And please do tell me why I was baned first time what I did ?

    They called me flamer and I never did anything else than state my oppionion about it, you dont see me posting popcorn remarks ( those are only here to provoke non haters and fans )

    I was called stupid ( rather dont quote it, iI qoute it last time and post was deleted )  and was also banned couse I quoted someone calling me juvenile and under that quote I posted thats person juvenile potst.
    ( post was deleted and I was baned )

    explain : "More of the same from you in this post alone.More of the same from you in this post alone."

    What did I lie about it, is here mybe more than 10 ppl that truly hate farlan/n3 and post about it on weekly basis ? ( yea I know there is more that 10 ppl which hate dnl, same goes about fanbois but they dont post about it on regular basis )
    I just state my oppinion about hatred posts by ysanding.

    Did I call names anyone ? Did I harassted/attack anyone ? Did I include smiles  to "hatebois" names ?

    p.s. I forgot to tell I did make one wrong post that got me banned... I started it with "you trolls" and i admit it was wrong. Also had some outburst a while ago ( couse of oversized IK PWNED txt  ) and used over size fonts in few of my pots. ( they was deleted )

    Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]

  • PriscilapramPriscilapram Member Posts: 67
    I do believe that the topic of this thread is the "no open beta". I can see that it is once again getting misdirected by harrassment and flaming. Could we please stay on topic? I have to agree with a few of them here IKShadow. You seem to turn every thread into an argumentive combative "my dad can beat up your dad" thread. Please please stay on topic.
  • IKShadowIKShadow Member UncommonPosts: 783


    Originally posted by Priscilapram
    I do believe that the topic of this thread is the "no open beta". I can see that it is once again getting misdirected by harrassment and flaming. Could we please stay on topic? I have to agree with a few of them here IKShadow. You seem to turn every thread into an argumentive combative "my dad can beat up your dad" thread. Please please stay on topic.


    I agree with you and will stay on topic.

    Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]

  • no closed stress either!!! LOL
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