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  • IKShadowIKShadow Member UncommonPosts: 783

    @Pix

    Thank you for clarify your side of the story. 

    And I would also like to mention that I was not in DnL Beta did not have access to beta forums etc..

    Iam following game since April 05 when release was announced ) when I saw it was delayed I just left till another release was announced and they started to put bunch of ppl into beta. So lets say I activly follow it from Avg05 ... 

    Please dont be imidiatly insulated and threatened.
    I just like to be in oposition, if Farlan/NP3 devs make a posts here and try to undermine you than I would make just a reverse posts like Didnt you stole that tehnology from ...

    Mybe Iam just a bit more aggriessive couse you are realy insulitng towards NP3 and they were you coworkers, partners etc... I just dont like that kind of ppl. Also wondering how many friends do you have (beside some brownnoisers here which nick I wont mention )... you had legal tangle with your old company, then NP3 so it seems you are a hard person to work with.

    p.s. Thanks again for the info.







    Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by IKShadow

    @Pix

    Thank you for clarify your side of the story. 

    And I would also like to mention that I was not in DnL Beta did not have access to beta forums etc..

    Iam following game since April 05 when release was announced ) when I saw it was delayed I just left till another release was announced and they started to put bunch of ppl into beta. So lets say I activly follow it from Avg05 ... 
    Please dont be imidiatly insulated and threatened.
    I just like to be in oposition, if Farlan/NP3 devs make a posts here and try to undermine you than I would make just a reverse posts like Didnt you stole that tehnology from ...
    Mybe Iam just a bit more aggriessive couse you are realy insulitng towards NP3 and they were you coworkers, partners etc... I just dont like that kind of ppl. Also wondering how many friends do you have (beside some brownnoisers here which nick I wont mention )... you had legal tangle with your old company, then NP3 so it seems you are a hard person to work with.

    p.s. Thanks again for the info.





    Hard to work with? Yet in the same statement you say "I just like to be in opposition" and "maybe Im just a bit more aggressive"....you REALLY have a mass of problems it would appear IK. Along with the reading comprehension at an all time low, you have social disabilities, then you turn around and reflect that back on the person who just showed you, AGAIN, that your spreading of lies and misleading information is really making you look silly. Your thinly veiled flames are truly tiring.

    Btw -- wheres the links to your information? You did not give them again. I would really like to know where you are pulling this crap out of? Lemme guess.....it doesnt exist?

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by IKShadow


    Iam following game since April 05 when release was announced ) when I saw it was delayed I just left till another release was announced and they started to put bunch of ppl into beta. So lets say I activly follow it from Avg05 ... 


    Forgive me if Im wrong but what you are saying is you came on board in April 05, then left, then came back when beta opened? Forgive me but I do believe the beta you speak of (the only one they had ppl come in for) was way back in 04? or is it 03? With so much going on in the mmo gaming industry, its hard to remember. A few of the beta testers are here at this board, I am sure they can clarify this.
  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by Cholayna

    Originally posted by IKShadow

    Mybe Iam just a bit more aggriessive couse you are realy insulitng towards NP3 and they were you coworkers, partners etc... I just dont like that kind of ppl. Also wondering how many friends do you have (beside some brownnoisers here which nick I wont mention )... you had legal tangle with your old company, then NP3 so it seems you are a hard person to work with.

    They were his coworkers who turned around and blew him off but they are ok in your book? And as far as Brown-nosers -- there must be a benefit to gain when someone "brown noses' -- I see no personal gain in believeing and agreeing with someone who has the truth (and the evidence) behind them. Displaying juvenile tactics when you are shown the errors of your ways is tiring IK.
  • IKShadowIKShadow Member UncommonPosts: 783


    Originally posted by Cholayna

    Originally posted by IKShadow


    Iam following game since April 05 when release was announced ) when I saw it was delayed I just left till another release was announced and they started to put bunch of ppl into beta. So lets say I activly follow it from Avg05 ... 


    Forgive me if Im wrong but what you are saying is you came on board in April 05, then left, then came back when beta opened? Forgive me but I do believe the beta you speak of (the only one they had ppl come in for) was way back in 04? or is it 03? With so much going on in the mmo gaming industry, its hard to remember. A few of the beta testers are here at this board, I am sure they can clarify this.


    I found out about in in April 05 but i did not registered at forums etc...
    ( never heared about in in 03/04 )

    About Hard to work with?
    Isnt it strange that Pix and his partners develop that tehnology than after it he got in legal tangle with them and same shit happened when he joined NP3.
    Do you think in the time that he was paid by NP3 he did not develop/improve any bits and pieces of his "engine" and took it with him when he left ?

    We can only assume what will happen when Pix find new partners which will found his project.

    p.s. Cholayna try to avoid double and tripple posting, there is an edit button.

    Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by IKShadow




    I found out about in in April 05 but i did not registered at forums etc...
    ( never heared about in in 03/04 )

    the point was, there was no beta gathering when you tried to say there was ....

    About Hard to work with?
    Isnt it strange that Pix and his partners develop that tehnology than after it he got in legal tangle with them

    Pix developed this technology on his own. Made a company with another. This other stole money from the company. (Cant you read? Its right there under your inflammatory post) The "legal tangle" you speak of is him going after the partner that stole money from the company. The kind of thing anyone in business would do.

    and same shit happened when he joined NP3.

    Read the warcry article, AGAIN pls. You will see why and its a completely different deal. Both display devious machinations on the part of OTHERS.


    Do you think in the time that he was paid by NP3 he did not develop/improve any bits and pieces of his "engine" and took it with him when he left ?

    gee, and do you think that these ppl who claim game "titles" (plural) and a "successful and long standing record in the gaming industry" which NPCube and Farlan claim will have any sort of impact on a professionals future prospects? Hardly. If anything, they will pat him on the back and say "oh man so sorry, you were mixed up in the early days with that nasty group -- good thing you got out!"

    He owned it. It was his. He did not sell the technology. He can do with it what he pleases. Farlan/NP# should have kept that in the back of their minds before he left with it. None of them were competent in the respect to carry on after he and a few others left.

    And when its all said and done - it would have the potential to catapult his career when the news is let out.

    p.s. Cholayna try to avoid double and tripple posting, there is an edit button.

    you the moderator?

    These are distinct views and each one has a distinct reply post.


    Heres an edit :

    Where are those links to what you are trying to claim? Where are the links you got your information from? You still havent produced any.

  • _Pix__Pix_ Member Posts: 276

    You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted and used against you

    Ok, IKShadow. I can only applaud for your being so constant and faithful to your motto. Well, it's just curious how your flaming behaviour reminds me of so many other people that would be better advised not to assume a too much threatening attitude. Good luck with your own way of thinking, you will need treasures of imagination, although I tend to be pretty confident in your capabilities to produce far-fetched theories (but I've already heard of some of them, somewhere, strange...).

    To me, the immediate obvious question you should ask yourself as a gamer is not really how a supposedly crazy developer like me will go on making a decent living but how you, as a supposedly simple gamer will make sure not to waste your money and time on an project that doesn't seem to be in such a good shape, no? Oh no, stupid me, I forgot... It's because you like better spending your time contradicting people.

    We can only assume what will happen when Pix find new partners which will found his project.

    Erm,"We" you said? you are not only one in your thinking? Hum ...interesting...

    Interesting to hear also, once again, that you've got brand new information on a "project" that I am supposed to have and I am supposed to be looking for investors to achieve, lol , busy little bee, but nice try IK.

    Any links to ratify your position? I would truly appreciate.Or was it just direct attack for some obscure reasons.

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by _Pix_

    .Interesting to hear also, once again, that you've got brand new information on a "project" that I am supposed to have and I am supposed to be looking for investors to achieve, lol , busy little bee, but nice try IK.
    Any links to ratify your position? I would truly appreciate.Or was it just direct attack for some obscure reasons.


    Dont waste your time waiting for it _Pix_, its quite obvious hes pulling this crap outta the air or simply could not comprehend an article, he does seem to have a very big problem with it. But give him time and he will come up with a new way to weasel out of the poor showing he displays. I am so glad you are here to dissuade the attempts of these incredible fanbois.


  • Originally posted by Cholayna

    Originally posted by _Pix_

    .Interesting to hear also, once again, that you've got brand new information on a "project" that I am supposed to have and I am supposed to be looking for investors to achieve, lol , busy little bee, but nice try IK.
    Any links to ratify your position? I would truly appreciate.Or was it just direct attack for some obscure reasons.

    Dont waste your time waiting for it _Pix_, its quite obvious hes pulling this crap outta the air or simply could not comprehend an article, he does seem to have a very big problem with it. But give him time and he will come up with a new way to weasel out of the poor showing he displays. I am so glad you are here to dissuade the attempts of these incredible fanbois.


    Dnl and whoever is working on/for/with the sucky game will go far to disquise the truth.  Great thread btw. One of the few worth reading.
  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604
    still no links to the false allegations presented by IK here?
  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    Just in case anyone has not noticed over on the official forums Serpico has announced DnL will be sharing a booth with Bigworld.

    I miss DAoC

  • _Pix__Pix_ Member Posts: 276

    I was pretty sure they will say they will share BigWorld's booth.(oh strange, see one of my previous post in this thread)

    In 2003, Farlan/NPCube shared a booth at South Hall with other game companies. In 2004, they took a booth (medium sized) at Kentia Hall. Last year, Farlan/NPCube's booth was quite big (# 6001, which is the German Pavillion this year as can be seen on the flloor plan http://www.e3expo.com/_assets/pdfs/kentia_floor.pdf ). In 2006, they announced they will be present at E3, but did not indicate any booth number, and then, a few days right before the show said they will be present on BigWorld booth. Well, maybe eventually they were told that usually publishing houses don't say they're going to E3 if it is not to have a booth: in that case, you will get a visitor's badge. Obviously, all visitors do not "announce" that they can be met at E3. Unless of course this time they are allowed to wear a BigWorld staff badge.

    In 2005, BigWorld was on Farlan's BigBooth ( http://www.sumea.com.au/sarticle.asp?art_ID=36  "BigWorld will be exhibiting at booth #6001") BTW, BigWorld announced 43 games to come.

     "BigWorld has licensed their technology for use in 43 different upcoming games, making it the de facto standard MMOG development platform." 
    Can anybody give info on the current status of development of these 43 games? Should be very interesting to see how well BigWorld performs on other MMO games.

    I don't know what was said at this occasion (as unfortunatly I was not here to check), but what we can still read today is that journalists made a confusion between BigWorld and VWorld. For example here : http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm?setview=features&loadFeature=110&gameID=58&from=features&fp=1280,1024,1146808743352,20060505015903

    MMORPG.COM quotes BigWorld as the technology used in DnL:

    "The team employs BigWorld technology and a layering system of LODs (level of details) to allow players to see a long way [...] With a world this big, the game was 90% generated, partly using satelite imagery"

    BigWorld is the server technology used in DnL, and even if the company provides also a 3D engine of his own (but not a procedural engine making use of satellite data), DnL does not make use of it. It seems that nobody told the author of the article that LOD system and satellite imagery was not a BigWorld feature used in DnL but a VWorldTerrain feature (see 2004 E3 articles on this subject). Strange again how Farlan/NPCube (but seems that they are not the only ones) can mis-inform people and journalists. It is quite surprising to note that it not the first time that BigWorld is mentionned instead of VWorldTerrain. Any clue? And don't tell me Mafate new new new proprietary engine changed into ... BigWorld. Lol. Too big to swallow.

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by _Pix_

    "The team employs BigWorld technology and a layering system of LODs (level of details) to allow players to see a long way [...] With a world this big, the game was 90% generated, partly using satelite imagery"
    BigWorld is the server technology used in DnL, and even if the company provides also a 3D engine of his own (but not a procedural engine making use of satellite data), DnL does not make use of it. It seems that nobody told the author of the article that LOD system and satellite imagery was not a BigWorld feature used in DnL but a VWorldTerrain feature (see 2004 E3 articles on this subject). Strange again how Farlan/NPCube (but seems that they are not the only ones) can mis-inform people and journalists. It is quite surprising to note that it not the first time that BigWorld is mentionned instead of VWorldTerrain. Any clue? And don't tell me Mafate new new new proprietary engine changed into ... BigWorld. Lol. Too big to swallow.


    Yup. It is quite apparent that the ppl of DNL confused the writer.Intentionally driving the technology to BW as the boss of the process, leaving out that how BW works is with technology from VWT. Your predicted scenarios however were a success! They pulled off what was expected without a hitch! LOL

    As far as the rest of the interview, a few things struck me right off.  It would also appear that mayhaps their event(s) didnt pan out as expected,,,again...LOL thus losing the chance for writers to see just how something REAL in action works on their engine. LOL It would also appear that generally the writer agreed with many of the views here, insofar as to the "adequate" and "average" quality of the game graphics. Lets not forget the "up close" graphics the writer was not too impressed with. Doesnt mention anything about any forts or anything that had already been built but I would imagine they didnt want any writers to see the displacement of any added images on this generated environment.

    I also loved the comparison to Shadowbane and the "old school" games ......seems the writer agreed with many of the views here at the mmorpg.com boards. Solobility was confirmed as being exempt in this game. Not for the average player, but one who enjoys grouping. THE SXP was apparently not clear enough at this point in time, so near release, to be explained fully and rationally to the writer as he appeared questioning but with no firm answers forthcoming.  No instances and dungeons and other options in the big enviroment was a surprise and a disappointment to the writer it seems .

    Loved the last sentence as well...a "niche" game...Not everything can nor will be there for the average anytime player to just sit for hours and enjoy the game on his own. Apparently the writer was not as impressed as he expected.

    one other thing that hit me ......... the writer stated the game to be released "LATER THIS YEAR" , not the end of the month. Hmmmmm...

    things that make you say hmmmmmmm...................<munch munch munch>

  • indiramournindiramourn Member UncommonPosts: 884


    Originally posted by _Pix_

    BigWorld is the server technology used in DnL...


    If BigWorld was used on the SoG servers, then I am NOT impressed.
  • _Pix__Pix_ Member Posts: 276


    Originally posted by Cholayna
    Yup. It is quite apparent that the ppl of DNL confused the writer.Intentionally driving the technology to BW as the boss of the process, leaving out that how BW works is with technology from VWT.


    The point is that BW is by no way working "with technology from VWT". In DnL, VWorldTerrain is the terrain technology, BigWorld is the server technology: it makes use of each in their own specialty. Both are totally independent, but what would be left of DnL without the large terrain and weather, vegetation, lights and shadows etc system... So, just like you, I see no "boss" server technology in here. 

    Does it ring anybody a bell that NPCube started blaming on BigWorld for the first delays in DnL's development coz BW tech was supposedly long to integrate for DnL's needs? (BTW nice to hear for people who offer you a room in their own booth a couple of years later..).

    Hmmm, here for example : http://www.just-rpg.com/default.asp?pid=1057

    "We’ve been working on this for over a year and have had to customise things a bit as Microforte didn’t cater for a game world as vast as ours."

    or here : http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/550/550097p1.html

    "We are one full year back on our initial schedule for Dark and Light. This is essentially due to the development of the integration tools linked to the game design, and also due, to some extent, to the integration of Micro Forte's BigWorld technology with ours. "

    and http://www.darknlight.net/forums/printthread.php?t=10023

    "Dark and Light has had a big delay due to the integration the Big World server cluster technology with their existing code."

    And after that, a few months later, next reason evoked for DnL being late was finally the rendering engine's incompatibility with DnL's needs?

    http://www.darkandlight.net/article.php3?id_article=616&lang=fr

    "The development team has been reorganized and reinforced in order to strengthen its technical experience and to rewrite the elements of the game engine that were too slow and lacked the flexibility required for DnL expectations. The game has to be able to permanently evolve along with its community"

     So who's REALLY to blame, huh? BigWorld, VWorld or NPCube/ Farlan's world? 

    Anyway, for some obscure reasons, Farlan/NPCube would apparently like people to make the confusion and possibly imply that BW is also used for the rendering, which is not the case. But after having claimed they were no longer using VWT and claimed that Mafate 2.2345.01-2006_debug_candidate_version was their entire proprietary engine, maybe they will now claim they are also using BW for the terrain side. Who knows.

    BTW, if anybody wants to know more on another soon to come MMO project that started about the same period as DnL, have a look at http://www.citizen-zero.com/

    PS: Cholayna, enjoy your pop-corn.

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by _Pix_

    Originally posted by Cholayna
    Yup. It is quite apparent that the ppl of DNL confused the writer.Intentionally driving the technology to BW as the boss of the process, leaving out that how BW works is with technology from VWT.

    The point is that BW is by no way working "with technology from VWT". In DnL, VWorldTerrain is the terrain technology, BigWorld is the server technology: it makes use of each in their own specialty. Both are totally independent, but what would be left of DnL without the large terrain and weather, vegetation, lights and shadows etc system... So, just like you, I see no "boss" server technology in here. 




    Aaccck! Looks like I confused myself. Sorry _Pix_!! I just re-read what I wrote and yup! I see how I mixed the two. So the SERVER - BW , the TERRAIN GRAPHICS - VWorld, right?

    My gawd, that made it sound like well,. welll like i said it LOL. No mention that the terrain technology is from VWorld and instead making it sound as tho BW and their programmers does it all.

    Thanx for the clarification _Pix_. I admit I was bit addled after reading that interview. LOL

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by _Pix_

     So who's REALLY to blame, huh? BigWorld, VWorld or NPCube/ Farlan's world? 
    Anyway, for some obscure reasons, Farlan/NPCube would apparently like people to make the confusion and possibly imply that BW is also used for the rendering, which is not the case. But after having claimed they were no longer using VWT and claimed that Mafate 2.2345.01-2006_debug_candidate_version was their entire proprietary engine, maybe they will now claim they are also using BW for the terrain side. Who knows.
    BTW, if anybody wants to know more on another soon to come MMO project that started about the same period as DnL, have a look at http://www.citizen-zero.com/

    PS: Cholayna, enjoy your pop-corn.


    They sure made it sound that way in the interview. Funny tho,no mention of the jerry-rigged Mafate engine however either. It just simply kills me that they would lay claim to the development of the terrain tech to you undoubtedly, then turn around and totally wipe you out from it and now apparently this Mafate appears to not be worth a mention either. Hmmmm, the interviewer did say the up close graphics werent very good at all (that was my opinion as well) - maybe now they will blame it on your technology LOL.

    Popcorn needs butter

  • _Pix__Pix_ Member Posts: 276

    Hmmm. See what I mean ? http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/76607/page/2

    "Is it a good idea for bigworld to let DNL be shown at their booth , I don't think so. But like I said before if its just a demo of the possibilities of what can be done with terrain then DNL is a good representation.
    As to what Bigworld is ,, think of it as a head start on making the world. Nothing to do with combat or characters or skills, just the world itself."

    It seems that people were told that BW had something to do with the engine creating the World in DnL. Incredible.

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by _Pix_

    It seems that people were told that BW had something to do with the engine creating the World in DnL. Incredible.


    makes ya wanna kinda sit a few brews in the ice cooler and sit back and wait for the explanation from Farlan/NP when it becomes common knowledge that VWorld is the Father and BW is actually the multicolored malformed stepchild.....
  • PriscilapramPriscilapram Member Posts: 67


    Originally posted by _Pix_



    1- No, wrong. Eingana product (not project since this product was released on time in December 2001).Eingana was a coproduction between MSat (a satellite database provider company) and my former company (the one I owned between 1997 to 2003, not NPCube, not Farlan ok?). Farlan or NPCube didn't fund anything on this product.NPCube did not even exist and I don't even know if Farlan existed at the time, and it's not the matter anyway. I am the author/developer of this product which I did partly fund myself. It of course makes use of the terrain technology I'm developing since 1996, but I'm sure you aleady know that.( http://www.vworldpowered.com/Press/PressE.htm )

    2 - No AGAIN, I did not take them to court. You have preliminary things to do before reaching that point. Ask a laywer if you want to know how long it can take. And they didn't sue me either, even if they announced it in writing and don't ask me a link here, you may be surprised to see how right I am! They lied and AD and fanbois did duplicate that lie everywhere.Can you imagine a second that if NPCube were within their rights, I would have the right to go on with my business and the right to continue to develop and sell my technology?


    Again, I already answered all these (here http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/72817/page/5) and if you were so interested in the subject you would have had a look at www.pourieux.com to know more and not deliberatly scatter false rumors like that. As I already said, I won a case in 2003 against my former partner, not NPCube (and it took me more than a year to get it settled, ok?) on a subject that had nothing to do with the matter at hand.

    So, maybe since you seem to be so interested in the subject you could tell me who told you all these lies? I'm pretty sure this will interest my laywer, u know. But, you are right in one thing: I am doing everything that is in my power to make Farlan/NPCube respect my IP rights and believe me, it is not easy.

    3- Rights for what? If you speak about Eingana, yes, they bought the name Eingana in 2003 and the rights to sell the second version of that product, but not the rights of the technology which produced it. Do not mingle everything. Farlan/NPCube did that end 2003 because we (and when I say "we", this include me, my present partners and the remaining NPCube shareholders) decided to release another version of Eingana. I brought them that business, we made that product called Eingana 1.5., but it is not even Farlan/NPCube whodid fund that development, it was the publisher who was very happy the people that made Eingana first version (that is to say the now VWORLD team, ok?) agreed to issue another version, because that product was successful. 

    You certainly don't know everything since the V-World Powered logo is on the splash screen of Eingana 1.5 as the technology has always belonged to me and there was already a web site dedicated to it. Just buy the product to check your allegations: My IP was respected at the time...How come NPCube issued Eingana 1.5 quoting VWorld (now VWorldTerrain) in 2003, quote VWorld again on the splash screen of the beta version of DnL, then quote it again on the DnL.net website and then removed the quote just after E3 2004? Do you have any idea of the number of journalists that came to Farlan/NPCube's booth at E3 2004 and stated the potential of DnL? Ask Inferno, for example.And then magically, they removed the link to VWorld and then magically pretended the technology was not working for their needs and then said they have started to rewrite my algorithms...

     How come they did all this and never mentionned VWorld on NPCube website presenting the game engine Mafate? You know the answer? no? Surprising. Well know it and my laywer knows it, but it cannot be publicly stated. You are so well "informed" that you should know about laywers' duty to preserve secrecy. So you'd really better stop spreading false allegations to discredit what I have to say and will continue to say.

    It seems that its yours initial idea of a random but constant algorithm to generate the details of the ground ( true/false ?) you are being paid by Eingana Project to develop it for them, afterwards it seems you sue them, claim that its yours and lost.

    This is totally outrageous. What is "Eingana Project"? A company? A project? What did they tell you? Eingana is a product issued in 2001, see above. BTW, VWorldTerrain technology does not *only* generate details. I'm not here to advertise, just go to the web site to verify for yourself what it does.I'm sure you can do it, you don't need a link. It is really scary to see how deep they went into their lies. And I'd really appreciate if you could just open your eyes and see how much you were victim of their lies. Incredible.It is beyond all words.

    p.s. You are a Pioneer with your great idea and I respect you for it.

    Pionner of what? Wrong word again. I am only a developer that has invented something and that is living on that very know-how, and who is more and more determinate to make people respect his IP, which apparently is not your case.Why are you so obsessed by everything I did, IKShadow? Did somebody tell you that I certainly had other things to do rather than defending myself against people like you spreading lies as you do and that I was bound to quit the debate because I certainly wouldn't have the time for such a non-sense? I had a job to do (and I still have), and I did it the best I could. I left Farlan/NPCube take all the benefits of the communication on their project. I had other things to do than verifying everything they were saying behind my back, and now what I read is that they lied even beyond all expectations to their fan base and apparently even journalists. You are the perfect example in that respect.


    wow _Pix_  Best of luck to you. I am hoping this will all be resolved in a happy manner for you. I am glad too you allowed us here to know the truth. It really did make an impression. I commend you for your courage and honesty
  • I said earlier that the best posts are the ones that pop up after every bad smell Farlan dispenses...

    they just had a failed stress test (even while ppl were still trying to download!)

    whacha wanna bet we see some more "just preordered the game", "this game looks good!" and "this is the greatest" post pop up now?

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by Priscilapram

    Originally posted by _Pix_



    1- No, wrong. Eingana product (not project since this product was released on time in December 2001).Eingana was a coproduction between MSat (a satellite database provider company) and my former company (the one I owned between 1997 to 2003, not NPCube, not Farlan ok?). Farlan or NPCube didn't fund anything on this product.NPCube did not even exist and I don't even know if Farlan existed at the time, and it's not the matter anyway. I am the author/developer of this product which I did partly fund myself. It of course makes use of the terrain technology I'm developing since 1996, but I'm sure you aleady know that.( http://www.vworldpowered.com/Press/PressE.htm )

    2 - No AGAIN, I did not take them to court. You have preliminary things to do before reaching that point. Ask a laywer if you want to know how long it can take. And they didn't sue me either, even if they announced it in writing and don't ask me a link here, you may be surprised to see how right I am! They lied and AD and fanbois did duplicate that lie everywhere.Can you imagine a second that if NPCube were within their rights, I would have the right to go on with my business and the right to continue to develop and sell my technology?


    Again, I already answered all these (here http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/72817/page/5) and if you were so interested in the subject you would have had a look at www.pourieux.com to know more and not deliberatly scatter false rumors like that. As I already said, I won a case in 2003 against my former partner, not NPCube (and it took me more than a year to get it settled, ok?) on a subject that had nothing to do with the matter at hand.

    So, maybe since you seem to be so interested in the subject you could tell me who told you all these lies? I'm pretty sure this will interest my laywer, u know. But, you are right in one thing: I am doing everything that is in my power to make Farlan/NPCube respect my IP rights and believe me, it is not easy.

    3- Rights for what? If you speak about Eingana, yes, they bought the name Eingana in 2003 and the rights to sell the second version of that product, but not the rights of the technology which produced it. Do not mingle everything. Farlan/NPCube did that end 2003 because we (and when I say "we", this include me, my present partners and the remaining NPCube shareholders) decided to release another version of Eingana. I brought them that business, we made that product called Eingana 1.5., but it is not even Farlan/NPCube whodid fund that development, it was the publisher who was very happy the people that made Eingana first version (that is to say the now VWORLD team, ok?) agreed to issue another version, because that product was successful. 

    You certainly don't know everything since the V-World Powered logo is on the splash screen of Eingana 1.5 as the technology has always belonged to me and there was already a web site dedicated to it. Just buy the product to check your allegations: My IP was respected at the time...How come NPCube issued Eingana 1.5 quoting VWorld (now VWorldTerrain) in 2003, quote VWorld again on the splash screen of the beta version of DnL, then quote it again on the DnL.net website and then removed the quote just after E3 2004? Do you have any idea of the number of journalists that came to Farlan/NPCube's booth at E3 2004 and stated the potential of DnL? Ask Inferno, for example.And then magically, they removed the link to VWorld and then magically pretended the technology was not working for their needs and then said they have started to rewrite my algorithms...

     How come they did all this and never mentionned VWorld on NPCube website presenting the game engine Mafate? You know the answer? no? Surprising. Well know it and my laywer knows it, but it cannot be publicly stated. You are so well "informed" that you should know about laywers' duty to preserve secrecy. So you'd really better stop spreading false allegations to discredit what I have to say and will continue to say.

    It seems that its yours initial idea of a random but constant algorithm to generate the details of the ground ( true/false ?) you are being paid by Eingana Project to develop it for them, afterwards it seems you sue them, claim that its yours and lost.

    This is totally outrageous. What is "Eingana Project"? A company? A project? What did they tell you? Eingana is a product issued in 2001, see above. BTW, VWorldTerrain technology does not *only* generate details. I'm not here to advertise, just go to the web site to verify for yourself what it does.I'm sure you can do it, you don't need a link. It is really scary to see how deep they went into their lies. And I'd really appreciate if you could just open your eyes and see how much you were victim of their lies. Incredible.It is beyond all words.

    p.s. You are a Pioneer with your great idea and I respect you for it.

    Pionner of what? Wrong word again. I am only a developer that has invented something and that is living on that very know-how, and who is more and more determinate to make people respect his IP, which apparently is not your case.Why are you so obsessed by everything I did, IKShadow? Did somebody tell you that I certainly had other things to do rather than defending myself against people like you spreading lies as you do and that I was bound to quit the debate because I certainly wouldn't have the time for such a non-sense? I had a job to do (and I still have), and I did it the best I could. I left Farlan/NPCube take all the benefits of the communication on their project. I had other things to do than verifying everything they were saying behind my back, and now what I read is that they lied even beyond all expectations to their fan base and apparently even journalists. You are the perfect example in that respect.


    wow _Pix_  Best of luck to you. I am hoping this will all be resolved in a happy manner for you. I am glad too you allowed us here to know the truth. It really did make an impression. I commend you for your courage and honesty


    Someone here is at it again, thot this thread along with the last argumentive irrational post made and responded to needed a bump so this person could read it again for some very informative details.
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