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Path of Exile First Expedition Patch to Bring QoL Improvements and Heap of Fixes | MMORPG.com

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edited August 2021 in News & Features Discussion

imagePath of Exile First Expedition Patch to Bring QoL Improvements and Heap of Fixes | MMORPG.com

The first big patch notes for Path of Exile's latest expansion, Expedition, has arrived and brings with it a bunch of quality of life improvements and a sizable serving of fixes.

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  • 10chai10chai Member UncommonPosts: 23
    Waiting next league
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,057
    I actually left a negative review of the game on Steam yesterday. Chris and GGG really haven't done a great job the last couple of years. They are sooooo focused on pumping out new leagues every three months that they never take the time needed to polish and de-convolute the systems. They also keep dropping 99% junk that requires loot filters.

    I may not return until POE2 or if they smarten up and give players an option to level without doing the same boring story over and over. Leveling via delve during that short event was soo much better.

    Lost Ark is looking more and more like it will take POE's place for me from time to time. I'm even finding the new D3 league more fun/rewarding than I have found POE in quite some time. POE just doesn't respect your time and that's doubly true for casuals.
    [Deleted User]ValdheimSetzerkjempff
  • hupahupa Member UncommonPosts: 177
    edited August 2021
    PoE hasn't actually been fun since Metamorph league. I played this league for a whopping 2 days before stopping. It's not just fun anymore and what I've read about Chris' ideas, it's only going to gain momentum going downhill.
    When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself

    - Earl Nightingale
  • ValdheimValdheim Member RarePosts: 711
    This game would be so much better if it would be easier to respec your character. With so much customization its like its made for experimenting different builds but to always start a new character, I don't know. As far as I know its very expensive to respec or has this changed in the last few years? Also I agree that PoEs loot is very unsatisfying.
  • Shredmn21Shredmn21 Newbie CommonPosts: 9

    Valdheim said:

    This game would be so much better if it would be easier to respec your character. With so much customization its like its made for experimenting different builds but to always start a new character, I don't know. As far as I know its very expensive to respec or has this changed in the last few years? Also I agree that PoEs loot is very unsatisfying.



    Completely agree. The game would be much better if there was an easy way to respec. No one wants to make a new character and spend weeks doing the same boring story over and over and over again to level up. It’s so easy to gimp your character as well, and the system does not encourage experimenting with different builds, it encourages looking the best one up online and just following that.
    FrodoFragins
  • CelciusCelcius Member RarePosts: 1,878
    3.15 ruined the game for me with the slowing down of it. They tried to make the game less zoom zoom when the reality is that is where the gameplay shines. The reason the game got more popular in the last 4-5 years as opposed to the first 5 years or so it was out is because the pace of the game early on was not good for the basic gameplay it has. I really hope they speed it back up again a bit in 3.16. I know it was getting a little out of hand, but they really swung the nerf bat HARD on this one. Nerfing everything doesn't make a game more fun.
    FrodoFraginsSetzer
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,057
    While they have more than enough separate ladders as it is, I think it may be time to make the main ladder more casual friendly and add a harder ladder for the epeeners.  It's impossible to cater to the 1% and casuals with the same ladder.
    kjempff[Deleted User]
  • kjempffkjempff Member RarePosts: 1,760
    I appreciate the idea of slowing the game down, less zoomzoom, more casual friendly. The execution of that idea in this patch is a comlete fail.
    The increased difficulty = more random one shotting, the one thing I dislike above any other things in PoE.
    Trying to chamge "piano flask" meta .. great idea, fail execution, and then giving in to the crying "pianists" and rolling back.
    Zoomzoom still there, it is just more exclusive for the 1% who plays strong meta builds. If they want to fix zoomzoom, redesign the movement skill to be dodge skills instead.
    Build diversity has gone down, because of the difficulty (cough one shotting) increase.
    Obviously most players agree that the current league mechanic is pretty poorly designed, but ok can't make a hit every 3 months.

    ...and in general, the usual PoE problems:
    I enjoy PoE the game, I don't enjoy ... the meta, spending half my time not actually playing because I have to look up complex systems and calculating stuff I barely understand. I hate trading as it is, they don't want to make a nice ingame trading system and yet the entire game is set up to require trading to hit any kind of endgame. I dislike the league mechanic creep, and I think the game would instantly become 50% better by removing 2/3 of it all; things I could live without: Temple (I dislike all complete before timer runs out mechanics), Abyss, Metamorph, Prophecies, Essences, Splinters, Beasts (sorry Einar), Syndicate, and more .. Well as ideas these are not bad, but they require complete redesign and simplification to be fun again, and we all know this is not going to happen.

    Unfortunately, I think PoE is unfixable at this point. I was excited for PoE 2 until I heard it is not actually a new game .. A clean slate seem to be the only way to fix PoEs massive amount of problems.
    This may sound like bashing PoE, but on the other hand even though I only enjoy 10% of the game at this point, those 10% are still better than most other games out there (which says more about the quality of other games than PoE).
    FrodoFragins
  • TiamatRoarTiamatRoar Member RarePosts: 1,689
    edited August 2021
    This is just a problem specific to me. but whatever.  I love playing summoners in ARPGs and never play anything else.  It's the only playstyle I enjoy.

    In Path of Exile, summoners have been nerfed for like, 7 leagues straight (every single league had some summoner nerfs ever since the summoner revamp in Legion that brought me back to POE in the first place)

    It gets old.  I play and grind in ARPGs to get stronger over time, not to see myself get weaker over time.

    But the stupidest most infuriating thing is that despite this latest patch containing yet more nerfs to summoners, perhaps even bigger than any other single league thus far, everyone else was nerfed even MORE, so summoners are still meta and the top build (basically in the land where everyone else is blind, the one-eyed man is king).  Which means that since everyone else is even crappier and since summoners are still meta, I probably have nothing to look forward to in future updates for the only playstyle I personally enjoy besides even MORE nerfs to get summoners in line with everyone else.

    Meh, guess I'll just stop buying supporter packs and play the game a lot less (if at all) now.  First time I've stopped buying supporter packs since I came back for Legion.  My wallet is happy at least.
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,057
    kjempff said:

    Unfortunately, I think PoE is unfixable at this point. I was excited for PoE 2 until I heard it is not actually a new game .. A clean slate seem to be the only way to fix PoEs massive amount of problems.

    This may sound like bashing PoE, but on the other hand even though I only enjoy 10% of the game at this point, those 10% are still better than most other games out there (which says more about the quality of other games than PoE).
    I think it's fixable, but the fixes go against Chris' vision so it will never happen.  It also will require several maintenance leagues where they put minimal effort into the league mechanics and instead fix the myriad of issues they have.  I seriously doubt tencent would be OK with that as those type of leagues don't really sell nearly as many supporter packs and such.

    I think D2R and Lost Ark will take a non-negligable chunk out of their pie later this year.  Last Epoch may have an impact next year but it's too early to tell.  Competition, and the ensuing loss in sales, are the only things that can get Chris to open his eyes.
  • vonryan123vonryan123 Member UncommonPosts: 516
    I went to Last Epoch and am having a blast. Some of the crafting feels meh but word from Dev's " Crafting is getting a future update that among other things is meant to address the "feels bad" of fracturing an item that has a high chance of success"

    Other than that LE is great! POE is dead!
    p.s. if you do try LE don't mention POE in chat they will rage lol

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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404
    If they would just put in a combat log I would come back.
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  • UtinniUtinni Member EpicPosts: 2,209
    Valdheim said:
    This game would be so much better if it would be easier to respec your character. With so much customization its like its made for experimenting different builds but to always start a new character, I don't know. As far as I know its very expensive to respec or has this changed in the last few years? Also I agree that PoEs loot is very unsatisfying.

    regret orbs are really cheap
  • AlexanderVendiAlexanderVendi Member UncommonPosts: 378
    I only make 1 maybe 2 builds per league, build some currency, craft some crazy shit then quit.
    Nothing changed.
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