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System · August 2021

Elder Scrolls Online Receiving More Graphical Updates in Update 31 | MMORPG.com

Zenimax Online's Elder Scrolls Online will see the consoles receive a fair share of graphical and performance improvements alongside the arrival of Update 31.

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Scot · August 2021

The only thing players seem to call out for is changes to the combat system, not sure players are overly concerned the graphics are getting old? But a step in the right direction, I just think players don't have this as a priority?

Greatsword · August 2021

This game needs an overhaul of the horrible character animations (and the combat).
The graphics can already easily be fixed with reshade.

xkeeper · August 2021

Scot said:

The only thing players seem to call out for is changes to the combat system, not sure players are overly concerned the graphics are getting old? But a step in the right direction, I just think players don't have this as a priority?

Everything about this update is about performance... has nothing to do with making the game pretty

ashiru_1978 · August 2021

Scot said:

The only thing players seem to call out for is changes to the combat system, not sure players are overly concerned the graphics are getting old? But a step in the right direction, I just think players don't have this as a priority?

You don't know the player base. All the veterans and players who want a challenge left the game long ago. Now 95% of ESO's population is some noobs who just buy costumes and pets and mounts and are content with the brain-dead combat, because they are brain-dead as well and something more sophisticated will make them feel incompetent.

You have no idea how many times I tried suggesting options to make the game more challenging without affecting the experience of those who like it as it is.

Each time I get jumped and bombarded by the same brain-dead entitled noobs who only buy costumes and pets and mounts. They are ruining the game.

Worst of all the moderators of the game kiss their ass, they delete my posts and send me warnings, but they never delete theirs, because they protect them, because they are the whales that keep this train wreck of a game going.

Iselin · August 2021

ashiru_1978 said:

Scot said:

The only thing players seem to call out for is changes to the combat system, not sure players are overly concerned the graphics are getting old? But a step in the right direction, I just think players don't have this as a priority?

You don't know the player base. All the veterans and players who want a challenge left the game long ago. Now 95% of ESO's population is some noobs who just buy costumes and pets and mounts and are content with the brain-dead combat...

<SNIP>

... noobs who only buy costumes and pets and mounts. They are ruining the game.

Dead giveaway is that all the "top tier" rewards for seasonal events are mount skins, costumes and motif pages that are not even used for crafting, just for transmog purposes.

Same with new chapters: they may have a few more weapon and armor sets that do things slightly different than the hundreds of other sets already in the game but the emphasis is on dress-up with both, rare in game drops and cash shop "premium" items. It's all about the cash shop now and the bulk of the current population absolutely loves that.

Casuals dressing up (with pretty ugly stuff I may add) has been progressively the focus aimed at that crowd more and more each year.

ashiru_1978 · August 2021

Iselin said:

ashiru_1978 said:

Scot said:

The only thing players seem to call out for is changes to the combat system, not sure players are overly concerned the graphics are getting old? But a step in the right direction, I just think players don't have this as a priority?

You don't know the player base. All the veterans and players who want a challenge left the game long ago. Now 95% of ESO's population is some noobs who just buy costumes and pets and mounts and are content with the brain-dead combat...

<SNIP>

... noobs who only buy costumes and pets and mounts. They are ruining the game.

Dead giveaway is that all the "top tier" rewards for seasonal events are mount skins, costumes and motif pages that are not even used for crafting, just for transmog purposes.

Same with new chapters: they may have a few more weapon and armor sets that do things slightly different than the hundreds of other sets already in the game but the emphasis is on dress-up with both, rare in game drops and cash shop "premium" items. It's all about the cash shop now and the bulk of the current population absolutely loves that.

Casuals dressing up (with pretty ugly stuff I may add) has been progressively the focus aimed at that crowd more and more each year.

Each DLC or Chapter has two version:

1. Peasant version with only the story content and gameplay features (the one I care about)
2. Top-Tier Premium VIP Demigod version with a bunch of useless mounts, pets, hairstyles or whatever useless crap for the whales

They even name them properly so you feel like a peasant for buying only the practical version and the brain-dead whales feeling like demigods for buying the version that comes with all that pointless crap.

I never in my life cared about cosmetics in games, be it skins, costumes, mounts, pets. It all started in Vanilla WoW when everyone was obsessed with collecting mounts, like grinding Zul'Gurub just to get that Armored Razzashi Raptor and all the time I kept thinking to myself: "Why do I need this mount when the base mount of my race also has 100% run speed?"

I played a lot of F2P Online FPS games where everyone had skins on their guns and I always found them tasteless and making you look like a clown, I always enjoyed the default version of how guns looked like.

Maybe this means I'm not the target audience of these games, especially ESO in particular as I could not care any less what mount or costume or pet someone has, I run with the default Bay Dun Horse and it looks nice and clean, while someone else's mount glows in the dark... WTF is this shit?!

I don't see how that makes them better than anyone else, to me it makes me look like the candidate for the saying: "A Fool and His Money Are Soon Parted".

Alomar · August 2021

Too little too late, 99% of those this would appeal to have given up on the game and moved on (myself and dozens of friends included). The only people left are casual pve'ers and rp'ers who don't realize they're being milked by a drastically trending down game performance/additions over the year.

Sovrath · August 2021

ashiru_1978 said:

Scot said:

The only thing players seem to call out for is changes to the combat system, not sure players are overly concerned the graphics are getting old? But a step in the right direction, I just think players don't have this as a priority?

You don't know the player base. All the veterans and players who want a challenge left the game long ago. Now 95% of ESO's population is some noobs who just buy costumes and pets and mounts and are content with the brain-dead combat, because they are brain-dead as well and something more sophisticated will make them feel incompetent.

You have no idea how many times I tried suggesting options to make the game more challenging without affecting the experience of those who like it as it is.

Each time I get jumped and bombarded by the same brain-dead entitled noobs who only buy costumes and pets and mounts. They are ruining the game.

Worst of all the moderators of the game kiss their ass, they delete my posts and send me warnings, but they never delete theirs, because they protect them, because they are the whales that keep this train wreck of a game going.

You're kind of full of yourself and disrespectful of others.

I'm sure they aren't brain dead and are just regular people enjoying themselves. You want a challenge? Go find a game that touts that as a feature.

Kyleran · August 2021

Sovrath said:

ashiru_1978 said:

Scot said:

The only thing players seem to call out for is changes to the combat system, not sure players are overly concerned the graphics are getting old? But a step in the right direction, I just think players don't have this as a priority?

You don't know the player base. All the veterans and players who want a challenge left the game long ago. Now 95% of ESO's population is some noobs who just buy costumes and pets and mounts and are content with the brain-dead combat, because they are brain-dead as well and something more sophisticated will make them feel incompetent.

You have no idea how many times I tried suggesting options to make the game more challenging without affecting the experience of those who like it as it is.

Each time I get jumped and bombarded by the same brain-dead entitled noobs who only buy costumes and pets and mounts. They are ruining the game.

Worst of all the moderators of the game kiss their ass, they delete my posts and send me warnings, but they never delete theirs, because they protect them, because they are the whales that keep this train wreck of a game going.

You're kind of full of yourself and disrespectful of others.

I'm sure they aren't brain dead and are just regular people enjoying themselves. You want a challenge? Go find a game that touts that as a feature.

I've always wondered how far those complaining about the lack of challenge in ESO have gotten with regards to veteran level DLC dungeons, hard mode bosses and trial runs, not to mention the PVP side of things.

I've found some of the content quite challenging and while I actually bought a glow in the dark ghost mount (a terrible idea in Cryodill btw) I don't see myself as a clueless noob whale, just a person with some extra disposable income to spend.

ashiru_1978 · August 2021

Sovrath said:

ashiru_1978 said:

Scot said:

The only thing players seem to call out for is changes to the combat system, not sure players are overly concerned the graphics are getting old? But a step in the right direction, I just think players don't have this as a priority?

You don't know the player base. All the veterans and players who want a challenge left the game long ago. Now 95% of ESO's population is some noobs who just buy costumes and pets and mounts and are content with the brain-dead combat, because they are brain-dead as well and something more sophisticated will make them feel incompetent.

You have no idea how many times I tried suggesting options to make the game more challenging without affecting the experience of those who like it as it is.

Each time I get jumped and bombarded by the same brain-dead entitled noobs who only buy costumes and pets and mounts. They are ruining the game.

Worst of all the moderators of the game kiss their ass, they delete my posts and send me warnings, but they never delete theirs, because they protect them, because they are the whales that keep this train wreck of a game going.

You're kind of full of yourself and disrespectful of others.

I'm sure they aren't brain dead and are just regular people enjoying themselves. You want a challenge? Go find a game that touts that as a feature.

I'm full of myself, because I want the leveling experience to be as challenging as it once was? And I'm in the wrong for suggesting to add an optional debuff that can reduce the stats of only those people who want it and those who like the game as it currently is can still enjoy it the same? This is the kind of suggestion I was trying to make and everyone of those clowns jumped me as if it's something that will affect their experience negatively. It will not. The reality is that they are greedy hypocrites and they don't want the game to change to be more inclusive for other people, even if it doesn't affect them whatsoever.

When I politely suggested to add some debuff to newly created characters who want to have more challenge, these same people jumped me and berated me for wanting more challenge. Some said "If you want challenge, strip your character naked", your suggestion is the same - go find another game.

Then why did I pay for ESO? Also in 2014 and 2015 the game was a lot more challenging and enjoyable. If you pulled too many mobs you'd die easily. Now if you pull 10 mobs, you can go make a cup of tea or have lunch and come back and you will still be alive. I've seen it be like this and I've seen it be ruined, I think the one full of themselves is you.

In the end you act like those idiots on the ESO forums - they chase away anyone they don't agree with, that's why the game is predominantly played by such clowns who like to pat themselves on the back, if you don't like my opinion, ignore it and move on, it's not very difficult.

That's why I quit the game, it wasn't because of the fact that ZOS ruined it, it was because I tried to get my opinion out there and I got stifled by these people, and when I try to fight my point, the moderators delete my posts and send me warnings. That's why I quit the game, because it favors only brain-dead noob whales who collect cosmetics.

Whether you agree with me or not, I don't care, just look at the game game, or even better - play it and see how dumbed-down it is - there is no enjoyment in anything when you're mowing through enemies and you can't even die.

Kyleran · August 2021

ashiru_1978 said:

Sovrath said:

ashiru_1978 said:

Scot said:

The only thing players seem to call out for is changes to the combat system, not sure players are overly concerned the graphics are getting old? But a step in the right direction, I just think players don't have this as a priority?

You don't know the player base. All the veterans and players who want a challenge left the game long ago. Now 95% of ESO's population is some noobs who just buy costumes and pets and mounts and are content with the brain-dead combat, because they are brain-dead as well and something more sophisticated will make them feel incompetent.

You have no idea how many times I tried suggesting options to make the game more challenging without affecting the experience of those who like it as it is.

Each time I get jumped and bombarded by the same brain-dead entitled noobs who only buy costumes and pets and mounts. They are ruining the game.

Worst of all the moderators of the game kiss their ass, they delete my posts and send me warnings, but they never delete theirs, because they protect them, because they are the whales that keep this train wreck of a game going.

You're kind of full of yourself and disrespectful of others.

I'm sure they aren't brain dead and are just regular people enjoying themselves. You want a challenge? Go find a game that touts that as a feature.

I think not.

When I politely suggested to add some debuff to newly created characters who want to have more challenge, these same people jumped me and berated me for wanting more challenge. Some said "If you want challenge, strip your character naked", your suggestion is the same - go find another game.

Then why did I pay for ESO? Also in 2014 and 2015 the game was a lot more challenging and enjoyable. If you pulled too many mobs you'd die easily. Now if you pull 10 mobs, you can go make a cup of tea or have lunch and come back and you will still be alive. I've seen it be like this and I've seen it be ruined, I think the one full of themselves is you.

In the end you act like those idiots on the ESO forums - they chase away anyone they don't agree with, that's why the game is predominantly played by such clowns who like to pat themselves on the back, if you don't like my opinion, ignore it and move on, it's not very difficult.

Nah, it's more fun to mock misguided opinions, far more entertaining.

ashiru_1978 · August 2021

Alomar said:

Too little too late, 99% of those this would appeal to have given up on the game and moved on (myself and dozens of friends included). The only people left are casual pve'ers and rp'ers who don't realize they're being milked by a drastically trending down game performance/additions over the year.

Agreed. ESO died around 2016 when they implemented that stupid level scaling crap. With it the challenge of the game disappeared and it was left a souless shell of a game.

Yes, ESO is PvE-only now, but somehow it's a worse experience than LOTRO, which is also a PvE game, I'm not saying LOTRO is bad, in fact it's a superior PvE experience than ESO even though you easily outlevel content there and have to buy a Stone of the Tortoise to freeze your XP gains when needed.

Even the content they release is no longer interesting - it's the same as with Retail WoW - artificial time sinks and lackluster story.

Instead of exploring Black Marsh or Hammerfell, they are milking Morrowind, Skyrim and Cyrodiil, which is complete BS.

It's a 100% fact that the only people who still play this game are either completely oblivious or just don't know any better.

I loved ESO so much between 2014 and 2015, but after they completely ruined it since and the Morrowind DLC was a complete disappointment, I had nothing to keep me there anymore.

KnightFalz · August 2021

Iselin said:

ashiru_1978 said:

Scot said:

The only thing players seem to call out for is changes to the combat system, not sure players are overly concerned the graphics are getting old? But a step in the right direction, I just think players don't have this as a priority?

You don't know the player base. All the veterans and players who want a challenge left the game long ago. Now 95% of ESO's population is some noobs who just buy costumes and pets and mounts and are content with the brain-dead combat...

<SNIP>

... noobs who only buy costumes and pets and mounts. They are ruining the game.

Dead giveaway is that all the "top tier" rewards for seasonal events are mount skins, costumes and motif pages that are not even used for crafting, just for transmog purposes.

Same with new chapters: they may have a few more weapon and armor sets that do things slightly different than the hundreds of other sets already in the game but the emphasis is on dress-up with both, rare in game drops and cash shop "premium" items. It's all about the cash shop now and the bulk of the current population absolutely loves that.

Casuals dressing up (with pretty ugly stuff I may add) has been progressively the focus aimed at that crowd more and more each year.

Events are quick and easy, much more so than every other game I've played. What magnificent rewards were you expecting for effort so trifling?

Gear isn't meant to escalate in power with each new expansion. It is meant to increase the pool of gearing options available by not devaluing everything that came before it was added.

Players like the customize their characters' appearance in any game that allows it, and aesthetics are a matter of taste.

The game is casual in base content, but not increasingly so. As in many MMORPGs these days one must actively seek out content of greater difficulty.

Iselin · August 2021

KnightFalz said:

Events are quick and easy, much more so than every other game I've played. What magnificent rewards were you expecting for effort so trifling?

Gee IDK why don't we ask WOW about their mix of cosmetics, convenience and gear rewards you can buy with Darkmoon Faire tickets for completing their quick and easy yearly event?

Or hey how about even a ten-pack of riding lessons as a reward?

Just an idea of things they could have as rewards instead of the 100% cosmetic shit.

Ya know?

KnightFalz · August 2021

Scot said:

The only thing players seem to call out for is changes to the combat system, not sure players are overly concerned the graphics are getting old? But a step in the right direction, I just think players don't have this as a priority?

I'm surprised you haven't seen complaints about performance, especially in PvP areas. They tend to be abundant and addressing them should take priority over changing a combat system that works but some find distasteful.

Aside from that, they haven't shown much interest in changing combat despite the ongoing requests, instead working on just about anything else over the years.

I'd expect either a new class or weapon type before, at least.

Iselin · August 2021

Kyleran said:

I've always wondered how far those complaining about the lack of challenge in ESO have gotten with regards to veteran level DLC dungeons, hard mode bosses and trial runs, not to mention the PVP side of things.

Pretty damn far and I bet one hell of a lot farther than you so far... noob

No sense in explaining to someone how things have changed for the worse over its 7 year life span unless you were there to see it and feel it.

Overland questing in the Veteran zones before they ditched the VR system and replaced it with CP was no joke. A lot of people grouped to do delves because they needed to... delves lol.

I've found some of the content quite challenging and while I actually bought a glow in the dark ghost mount (a terrible idea in Cryodill btw) I don't see myself as a clueless noob whale, just a person with some extra disposable income to spend.

I'm not going to tell you how to spend your money but hey, Elvis black velvet paintings are tacky

KnightFalz · August 2021

Iselin said:

KnightFalz said:

Events are quick and easy, much more so than every other game I've played. What magnificent rewards were you expecting for effort so trifling?

Gee IDK why don't we ask WOW about their mix of cosmetics, convenience and gear rewards you can buy with Darkmoon Faire tickets for completing their quick and easy yearly event?

Or hey how about even a ten-pack of riding lessons as a reward?

Just an idea of things they could have as rewards instead of the 100% cosmetic shit.

Ya know?

Why would I ask WoW about their annual quick and easy event when I am content with ESO's every quick and easy event. That seems a downgrade to me.

Quick and easy events don't merit a ten-pack of riding lessons as a reward.

Perhaps they could add Seals of Endeavour to event prizes. These once accumulated can be used to purchase riding lessons, potions, mimic stones, and other useful things that should be more pleasing to those that dislike cosmetics.

They're already earned through play, albeit slowly. It should be easy to add them as event rewards in a greater amount more suitable to such.

Iselin · August 2021

KnightFalz said:

Iselin said:

KnightFalz said:

Events are quick and easy, much more so than every other game I've played. What magnificent rewards were you expecting for effort so trifling?

Gee IDK why don't we ask WOW about their mix of cosmetics, convenience and gear rewards you can buy with Darkmoon Faire tickets for completing their quick and easy yearly event?

Or hey how about even a ten-pack of riding lessons as a reward?

Just an idea of things they could have as rewards instead of the 100% cosmetic shit.

Ya know?

Why would I ask WoW about their annual quick and easy event when I am content with ESO's every quick and easy event. That seems a downgrade to me.

Because your knowledge of how others do events with prizes to cater to a variety of play styles and interests seems to be an alien concept for you.

My comment about ESO event prizes is about their obsessive focus on cosmetics and only cosmetics. Other MMOs do not do it that way.

You should broaden your horizons so you're not so quick to defend ESOs way as the only possible way.

MikeJezZ · August 2021

xkeeper said:

Scot said:

The only thing players seem to call out for is changes to the combat system, not sure players are overly concerned the graphics are getting old? But a step in the right direction, I just think players don't have this as a priority?

Everything about this update is about performance... has nothing to do with making the game pretty

Last time I played was at the Skyrim expansion, and every update since then appeared to be performance updates, and they still haven't fixed stuff.

Hariken · August 2021

I hope one day they get around to combat. And give us more that 5 slots for abilities. IT really makes the combat so boring to me. Also they need to read up on the racial lore and give the races the proper passives.

bcbully · August 2021

Scot said:

The only thing players seem to call out for is changes to the combat system, not sure players are overly concerned the graphics are getting old? But a step in the right direction, I just think players don't have this as a priority?

the only thing the key turning tab-target players call out for

Sovrath · August 2021

Hariken said:

I hope one day they get around to combat. And give us more that 5 slots for abilities. IT really makes the combat so boring to me. Also they need to read up on the racial lore and give the races the proper passives.

Well, technically you have more than 5. You have 10 not counting your two ultimate slots.

Sovrath · August 2021

ashiru_1978 said:

I'm full of myself, because I want the leveling experience to be as challenging as it once was? And I'm in the wrong for suggesting to add an optional debuff that can reduce the stats of only those people who want it and those who like the game as it currently is can still enjoy it the same? This is the kind of suggestion I was trying to make and everyone of those clowns jumped me as if it's something that will affect their experience negatively. It will not. The reality is that they are greedy hypocrites and they don't want the game to change to be more inclusive for other people, even if it doesn't affect them whatsoever.

You can suggest all you want and they can disagree all they want, they are not brain dead for liking what they like.

Also, what mmorpg has really had challenging leveling other than maybe some of the really old games?

That's not really the point of leveling as mobs and points of xp are just mini power-ups.

I'm sure someone will say "don't use armor, don't use x, y and z and make it more challenging" but that really doesn't lend to having a shared experience.

No, I would say that having (in Elder Scrolls Online's case) a challenging "channel" that a player might have more difficult overland mobs might be a better option.

Otherwise, wear the worst armor. There's your debuff.

Now, I'm being sarcastic when I suggest that. But that in essence is what you are asking for. Some way to make it individually more difficult for those who want challenge.

KnightFalz · August 2021

Iselin said:

KnightFalz said:

Iselin said:

KnightFalz said:

Events are quick and easy, much more so than every other game I've played. What magnificent rewards were you expecting for effort so trifling?

Gee IDK why don't we ask WOW about their mix of cosmetics, convenience and gear rewards you can buy with Darkmoon Faire tickets for completing their quick and easy yearly event?

Or hey how about even a ten-pack of riding lessons as a reward?

Just an idea of things they could have as rewards instead of the 100% cosmetic shit.

Ya know?

Why would I ask WoW about their annual quick and easy event when I am content with ESO's every quick and easy event. That seems a downgrade to me.

Because your knowledge of how others do events with prizes to cater to a variety of play styles and interests seems to be an alien concept for you.

My comment about ESO event prizes is about their obsessive focus on cosmetics and only cosmetics. Other MMOs do not do it that way.

You should broaden your horizons so you're not so quick to defend ESOs way as the only possible way.

I've played a good many MMORPGs over the years, including WoW. There is very little alien to me other than what goes on in PvP-centric games. I never suggested ESO's way is the only possible. Don't put words in my mouth to suit your purpose.

I addressed moving beyond cosmetics later on in the post you quoted, but for some reason you didn't bother mentioning and commenting on that part. Odd.

Here's a simple and easier proposal instead. If you don't like cosmetics don't do events that reward them and instead pursue what you find valuable. Problem solved.

Urden · August 2021

I played ESO for the first time this year. I prefer leveling to end game. At first I thought the game was great, had hopes that this might be my new game. I quit after two months due to the dumbfoundingly easy leveling experience. It took me a bit to realize what was happening, I threw the notion away at first and figured things would get harder. When it didn't I did some googling and was amazed that it was intended to be as easy as it was. I didn't even get to understand my characters as I leveled, what abilities worked best and what rotation was ideal. There was no need, just run up to a group of mobs, click any of your abilities in any order and they die. Boring.

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