3 days, probably with another wipe after, can't get any further than I did before. Just a glorified stress test, I may get on for a while just to re-wet my appetite for October.
3 days, probably with another wipe after, can't get any further than I did before. Just a glorified stress test, I may get on for a while just to re-wet my appetite for October.
Of course there'll be a wipe. Just like in any real beta ever.
Not like the fake betas some people buy with "founders packs" or some shit. And even then most of those also wipe unless it's called "early access."
Unless their name is Cryptic Studios and they have horseshit "betas" + cash shop that's just their way of doing a release "but don't judge us 'cause it's just a beta."
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How very old school of them having a free for all open beta like all MMOs used to do years ago.
Seems like this is becoming a thing again with demos and open betas for many games over the past month or so. Try before you buy is as games consumer friendly as it gets.
It'll also be great to log-in again and see the (likely) last patch notes before release.
Really! if that was the case the last beta would of been a try before you buy open beta but it wasn't. They know the only way to test the load is by doing an open beta, no one is going to pay for a beta after the last mess.
They need to have more pve content and meaningful quest since the last beta, i just about got to level 40 and won't be doing it again unless something has seriously changed.
It's not a beta test of the game itself, it's much too late for that.
This is a beta test of the launch. When everybody hops on and the servers crash, it will be the beta test, or stress test, that failed. Not the launch.
I went to check the steam discussion board, and man, people are so angry about getting a free open beta lol. Can't please everyone I guess.
Pff, being mad at others due to their own impatience, so silly. Plus, wasn't the previous one kinda "free" too, since you could pre-order at zero charge and cancel the pre-order?
Some were complaining that this is just an excuse to get another delay (so what if its true? better a good game, than a flawed one), others said 3 days is not enough (what do you expect? a whole week? the arrogance of some people), then the usual folks that the game needs to be delayed another year and some other crap.
This is the first time I see a steam discussion board filled with so many angry people.
My guess/opinion is that there are still a lot of angry folks from Alpha when they changed the game from non-consentual pvp to a more pve centric game. It's weird but you see people still commenting in-game and in forum posts that can't seem to move on with their lives...
Steam only ?? No thanks I don't install spyware on my PC
Interesting opinion of Steam. Lately, I'm of the mindset that I'll 'only' play a game if it's available for DL from Steam. Always spyware free for me. Plus, I liked the auto-saved config settings, save-games, and a central repo for games & screenshots.. et al.
I guess you don't know or did not relaise that steam IS the spyware. I'm talkng about. Very few do
Anyone spying on my life will likely die of boredom so problem solved, right?
Well unless they want to know how many bags of cat litter I go through monthly.
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I went to check the steam discussion board, and man, people are so angry about getting a free open beta lol. Can't please everyone I guess.
Pff, being mad at others due to their own impatience, so silly. Plus, wasn't the previous one kinda "free" too, since you could pre-order at zero charge and cancel the pre-order?
Some were complaining that this is just an excuse to get another delay (so what if its true? better a good game, than a flawed one), others said 3 days is not enough (what do you expect? a whole week? the arrogance of some people), then the usual folks that the game needs to be delayed another year and some other crap.
This is the first time I see a steam discussion board filled with so many angry people.
Ohh, I could share a pretty long list of subs full of angry people, it's just what people do on Reddit regardless the subject.
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How very old school of them having a free for all open beta like all MMOs used to do years ago.
Seems like this is becoming a thing again with demos and open betas for many games over the past month or so. Try before you buy is as games consumer friendly as it gets.
It'll also be great to log-in again and see the (likely) last patch notes before release.
Really! if that was the case the last beta would of been a try before you buy open beta but it wasn't. They know the only way to test the load is by doing an open beta, no one is going to pay for a beta after the last mess.
They need to have more pve content and meaningful quest since the last beta, i just about got to level 40 and won't be doing it again unless something has seriously changed.
You played which beta? A month ago or a year ago?
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“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
Steam only ?? No thanks I don't install spyware on my PC
Interesting opinion of Steam. Lately, I'm of the mindset that I'll 'only' play a game if it's available for DL from Steam. Always spyware free for me. Plus, I liked the auto-saved config settings, save-games, and a central repo for games & screenshots.. et al.
I guess you don't know or did not relaise that steam IS the spyware. I'm talkng about. Very few do
Anyone spying on my life will likely die of boredom so problem solved, right?
Well unless they want to know how many bags of cat litter I go through monthly.
My last count was 5 but I did nod off for a bit.
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Steam only ?? No thanks I don't install spyware on my PC
Interesting opinion of Steam. Lately, I'm of the mindset that I'll 'only' play a game if it's available for DL from Steam. Always spyware free for me. Plus, I liked the auto-saved config settings, save-games, and a central repo for games & screenshots.. et al.
I guess you don't know or did not relaise that steam IS the spyware. I'm talkng about. Very few do
Anyone spying on my life will likely die of boredom so problem solved, right?
Well unless they want to know how many bags of cat litter I go through monthly.
Thats the problem with kids these days. They have no idea what privacy is anymore. Thanks to places like failbook and instahoe they post all of thier lives on line and they think eveyone else should as well. BTW Its all done by computers now. So they don't get bored. I for one don't want to and never will, and I'm sure there are a LOT more like me.
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Steam only ?? No thanks I don't install spyware on my PC
Interesting opinion of Steam. Lately, I'm of the mindset that I'll 'only' play a game if it's available for DL from Steam. Always spyware free for me. Plus, I liked the auto-saved config settings, save-games, and a central repo for games & screenshots.. et al.
I guess you don't know or did not relaise that steam IS the spyware. I'm talkng about. Very few do
Anyone spying on my life will likely die of boredom so problem solved, right?
Well unless they want to know how many bags of cat litter I go through monthly.
Thats the problem with kids these days. They have no idea what privacy is anymore. Thanks to places like failbook and instahoe they post all of thier lives on line and they think eveyone else should as well. BTW Its all done by computers now. So they don't get bored. I for one don't want to and never will, and I'm sure there are a LOT more like me.
Definitely are a lot more like that out there I think.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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The background music of this game and the sense of the picture is still worth the affirmation, the character costume design character of the subtle movements are done very well, very real. I played this game during the closed beta, and it feels pretty good.usually I often go to other websites to see the information about this game, such as mmoball.com, this website is good, the content is very rich, I suggest to have a look, there are game benefits yo.
Steam only ?? No thanks I don't install spyware on my PC
Interesting opinion of Steam. Lately, I'm of the mindset that I'll 'only' play a game if it's available for DL from Steam. Always spyware free for me. Plus, I liked the auto-saved config settings, save-games, and a central repo for games & screenshots.. et al.
I guess you don't know or did not relaise that steam IS the spyware. I'm talkng about. Very few do
Anyone spying on my life will likely die of boredom so problem solved, right?
Well unless they want to know how many bags of cat litter I go through monthly.
Thats the problem with kids these days. They have no idea what privacy is anymore. Thanks to places like failbook and instahoe they post all of thier lives on line and they think eveyone else should as well. BTW Its all done by computers now. So they don't get bored. I for one don't want to and never will, and I'm sure there are a LOT more like me.
Definitely are a lot more like that out there I think.
So not wanting to be spied on and wanting privacy makes you a tin foil hat wearer?? Thanks for proveing my point
Top 3 MMO's PRE-CU SWG GW1 GW2
Worst 2 wow and Lotro Under standing stones it went woke
Steam only ?? No thanks I don't install spyware on my PC
Interesting opinion of Steam. Lately, I'm of the mindset that I'll 'only' play a game if it's available for DL from Steam. Always spyware free for me. Plus, I liked the auto-saved config settings, save-games, and a central repo for games & screenshots.. et al.
I guess you don't know or did not relaise that steam IS the spyware. I'm talkng about. Very few do
Anyone spying on my life will likely die of boredom so problem solved, right?
Well unless they want to know how many bags of cat litter I go through monthly.
Thats the problem with kids these days. They have no idea what privacy is anymore. Thanks to places like failbook and instahoe they post all of thier lives on line and they think eveyone else should as well. BTW Its all done by computers now. So they don't get bored. I for one don't want to and never will, and I'm sure there are a LOT more like me.
Definitely are a lot more like that out there I think.
He hasn't even got a full tinfoil bodysuit, half arsed chancer if you ask me.
I guess you don't know or did not relaise that steam IS the spyware. I'm talkng about. Very few do
I understand that Steam collects information to suggest games to you, probably also anonymised data for marketing purposes. Is there something else? Sources?
Also is this in any way different or more egregious than the data that Windows, Google, and most other services collect in order to offer a more personalized service (along with the risk of misuse of the data being collected)?
An awful lot of data is being collected, the issue is what are they doing with it, if it is just advertising and marketing I don't see a problem. If it goes beyond that we have seen governments investigating and setting standards. All that really matters is standards are set and they are followed, that's going to be a two way tussle from now on but it always has been. Look at the way there are legal challenges over the use of a political parties membership list, this sort of information issue has always been around but in a far smaller way.
An awful lot of data is being collected, the issue is what are they doing with it, if it is just advertising and marketing I don't see a problem. If it goes beyond that we have seen governments investigating and setting standards. All that really matters is standards are set and they are followed, that's going to be a two way tussle from now on but it always has been. Look at the way there are legal challenges over the use of a political parties membership list, this sort of information issue has always been around but in a far smaller way.
I do not disagree but I do not see how Steam is more harmful than other services that most people use already. Windows and Google are collecting a much larger amount of data than Steam (possibly including the data that Steam collects) but people will still use them over the more privacy-conscious alternatives (Linux, DDG, Firefox) for the convenience they offer, including the personalized experience which actually needs that data to be collected. So how is Steam harming me more than those services already do?
I was asking in case the other poster has sources with incidents of data misuse by Steam (like the many documented incidents with Facebook and Google for example). Otherwise I am more keen to dismiss him like Kyleran did.
I don't think Steam is, but you might say that's just down to what they collect, Google has far more to draw on. So the standards for Steam would not be as inclusive, but lets not dismiss anyone, we can't expect great ideas from everyone all the time. Carry on Posting!
I use Duck Duck Go myself, not sure if that means I should also wear a tin hat though, just seems prudent considering those documented incidents.
I use Duck Duck Go myself, not sure if that means I should also wear a tin hat though, just seems prudent considering those documented incidents.
It is prudent. Like with many things in life it is a trade-off. You value not sharing your data or search preferences over having a better search algorithm, or being outside of the Filter bubble over the convenience of Google bringing you personalized searches that might be better for you. As far as I am concerned there is nothing wrong with either choice, it's just a matter of where your personal priorities lie. I use both google and DDG depending on what I want to search.
What's the advantage of a personalised search, I never thought it much cop?
I use Duck Duck Go myself, not sure if that means I should also wear a tin hat though, just seems prudent considering those documented incidents.
It is prudent. Like with many things in life it is a trade-off. You value not sharing your data or search preferences over having a better search algorithm, or being outside of the Filter bubble over the convenience of Google bringing you personalized searches that might be better for you. As far as I am concerned there is nothing wrong with either choice, it's just a matter of where your personal priorities lie. I use both google and DDG depending on what I want to search.
What's the advantage of a personalised search, I never thought it much cop?
Well, imagine that you primarily search about MMORPGs and your buddy is primarily searching about books. If you put in "New World" in Google, you get results on Amazon's New World, your buddy gets results on "Brave New World". Or something to that effect. The search engine learns about your preferences and tries to guess what you want to find when the search is ambiguous, so you have much higher chances to get what you are looking for in the top of the 1st page.
The problems start when you want to get a wider perspective (say in a controversial politics topic) and you mostly get results that reinforce your belief (confirmation bias), especially if you are not aware of it. That's the filter bubble. I remember for example a blogger once bragging how his blog calling out WoT being rigged was the first result in google when googling "World of Tanks", and obviously that was far from the truth - it was just what google was giving him based on his browsing history.
That's why, privacy concerns aside, I find both Google and DDG to be useful depending on what I want to find.
We live in digital bubbles now so that's definitely not for me, break out of those bubbles! I think the case can be made that social media bubbles and "search bubbles" stifle our mental growth. You see the same arguments, hear the same things, you just have your world view reinforced, your views about the world are affirmed not informed.
Maybe that guy searching for New World could have his mind opened to new vistas reading even a snippet about Brave New World. I see what you are saying about using both systems but it sounded like too much hassle to me.
As for your last post, just be careful what you click on has to be the lesson there.
People are so hungry for a new game they could have saved money on the lipstick and you all still would have bought the pig.
Lots of people loved the game even after they had the chance to try it out for free. They just have different tastes than yours.
I don't think he has a taste. Just seems to bitch and moan about everything.
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“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
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Not like the fake betas some people buy with "founders packs" or some shit. And even then most of those also wipe unless it's called "early access."
Unless their name is Cryptic Studios and they have horseshit "betas" + cash shop that's just their way of doing a release "but don't judge us 'cause it's just a beta."
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Really! if that was the case the last beta would of been a try before you buy open beta but it wasn't. They know the only way to test the load is by doing an open beta, no one is going to pay for a beta after the last mess.
They need to have more pve content and meaningful quest since the last beta, i just about got to level 40 and won't be doing it again unless something has seriously changed.
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My guess/opinion is that there are still a lot of angry folks from Alpha when they changed the game from non-consentual pvp to a more pve centric game. It's weird but you see people still commenting in-game and in forum posts that can't seem to move on with their lives...
Well unless they want to know how many bags of cat litter I go through monthly.
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"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
My last count was 5 but I did nod off for a bit.
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Top 3 MMO's PRE-CU SWG GW1 GW2
Worst 2 wow and Lotro Under standing stones it went woke
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Top 3 MMO's PRE-CU SWG GW1 GW2
Worst 2 wow and Lotro Under standing stones it went woke
I use Duck Duck Go myself, not sure if that means I should also wear a tin hat though, just seems prudent considering those documented incidents.
Maybe that guy searching for New World could have his mind opened to new vistas reading even a snippet about Brave New World. I see what you are saying about using both systems but it sounded like too much hassle to me.
As for your last post, just be careful what you click on has to be the lesson there.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo