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jarger22
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All pictures were taken with highest graphics settings possible. And as the french have put up screens i really couldnt care less.
Well my take it this all,
* Now the landscape courtesy of the bigworld engine/mafate/vworld ( waiting on someone to explain this to me
) is visually stunning viewing distance on max settings is the best i have seen in any game, the new structures and towns also blend nicely into the surroundings and are also intricately detailed.
*The character creation as it stands is quite ordinary possible the worst i have seen, limited choices on almost everything. And the character models look terrible, as you can see.
*Ui is terrible like SoG but harder to see and understand if that was possible.
*Translations from french are incomplete.
i wont comment on anything else as i have not experienced enough of game, to give an honest opinion.
All in all i was not to disappointed, why because my expectations were lowered, for those expecting the greatest show on earth you may get a rude shock. Ill play the game as im a pioneer and have 2 months "free" access. If they get the lag down PVP and exploration (my favourite) might actually be enjoyable due to large size of the land. But it will need a lot more than that to play with the big boys of MMORG's i think.
Ooooooh now I understand why the DnL fanboys/girls say the graphics are so way better now.
But well, you know, it is like compareing the first car which got manufactured with a car from 1995. Of course there is improvement, but not really enough to call it up to date in my oppinion according to those SS. Would love to see some buildings tho.
Thanks for the SS. I can totally believe that those did not got manipulated.
What kind of detail you had on as you took them?
Edit: NM my questions
all on the highest settings graphics maxed out. The graphics look the same as SoG, but to me SoG ran better.
ill try and find some screens i have from Sog for a better comparrison the first one from sog is on a dodgy computer.
The latest one were taken on a
AMD 64x2 4200+
2 gig ram
x850GT card (i think thats what it is)
They are all the ones i had time to take before getting booted with the server crash.
Those two are from SoG
*please note the engine and lanscape was never an issue(with me anyways) it was all the other stuff that populates the world, and the lies the horrible hideous lies
No, it's not only a flight sim
Current Work In Progress
_Pix_
That was no insult to u but take it as u like. What would you prefer me to call it? ( i will go back and edit my post to include both your title and theirs no worries)
But you can take as a complement the redeeming feature of this game is the terrain modelling
Lol.
I'm not here to tell your what you have to write or who you have to mention. Just funny to see you misquoted the name of the "redeeming" terrain technology, but I already predicted some people were bound to do this. Don't take it bad, your are not the first, certainly not the last.
BTW, thanks for the screenshots from the rewritten Mafate engine. Lol.
I'm sure you could have found even better ones. Need links?
Pix - Clairvoyant
No, it's not only a flight sim
Current Work In Progress
I could comment how the gameplay is crap and the content is none existant, but hey, they cant even bring the servers to run properly, so whats the point..
Basicly the only thing which is good in this game is the world/landscape generator which they stole hah.
"Now the landscape courtesy of the bigworld engine is visually stunning viewing distance on max settings is the best i have seen in any game"
whats so good about that landscape? It looks very ordinary to me. In fact the texture work looks more like melted candles than anything else..
Ugh. Please don't feel that way about DnL's landscape and environmental graphics. It's the only good thing that Farlan/NPCube has going for it.
After playing SoG, I really got to love the environmental graphics. Even though the weather effects were very limited, I enjoyed that part of the game, too. Character models left a lot to be desired, but as far as the landscapes go, I think they are among the best of any mmorpg.
This is the only good thing I have to say about Dark and Light.
Firstly _Pix_
To be honest i couldnt give a shit what u think, i was however trying to be polite and acknowledge who was needed. The screens (the last two on my third post) were taken by me during SoG (believe it or not up to you again i couldnt care less.)
And if you think im defending this game again up to you i dont really care, maybe reread the previous posts of mine and have a think again.
Lysanding
As for the landscape, i never did get round to playing WoW, just not my type of game, late here and i cant be bothered to check my previous posts but i think i said the landscape was the best i have seen in a MMORPG (please note the IVE SEEN bit)
And once more saying that i like the landscape although everything else is poor does not constitutes a glowing opinion of the game.
Remeber opionions are like arseholes everyone got one....
Terrain improved a lot.
Player made SS:
There are a lot of better player made screen shots, but dont want to violate NDA ( hope they removed it asap ).
Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]
At distance I will say the landscapes were cool, however up close the terrain and weather effects were fairly miserable too me. It was very obvious that the graphics engine started out as a weather simulator.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
That is a large improvement over what I saw last...
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Ok jarger22, you are mistaken, I was by no means doubting you could make pretty nice screenshots from SoG/DnL. I was just stating once again there was a confusion being made between what you judge as the redeeming feature of this game which apparently is the landscape with its stunning viewing distance as you mentionned below, which for unknown reasons to me, you consider to be due to BigWorld:
* Now the landscape courtesy of the bigworld engine is visually stunning viewing distance on max settings is the best i have seen in any game, the new structures and towns also blend nicely into the surroundings and are also intricately detailed.
BigWorld once again has nothing to do with the procedural landscape creation in DnL : it's the server technology used in DnL. And as apparently I cannot count on NPCube nor Farlan nor AD to state this clearly, well I see no reason why I shouldn't correct you in your false statements, particularly since you seem to greatly appreciate the terrain part of DnL.
No need to be aggressive about that.
No, it's not only a flight sim
Current Work In Progress
landscape is vworld or was i dunno what they use in mafte 1.5
after being schooled by people and pix about what i do and dont know about the facts i wont say anything.
but the depth of the landscape is better in DNL and i like it. i wish vworld and np3 could work out everything , as i saw the vworld 4.0 preview video and all i can say is WOW that is amazing. but can you have that great of detail without actual satillite photos?
bigworld is the server technology that allows the one world stuff to happen. (you cant correct what fans/doubters say as its them talking not the offical people, sucks but is true)
the lack of shaders in the 1.5 engine is obvious as we can see from the screen shots.link of tranlation stating lack of shaders (ozerworld quote)
hopefully mafte 2.0 isnt that far behind
but this game does look better then, fenterus(sp), and a few other mmos that are comming out soon.
hopefully with mafte 2.0 and the addition of pixel shaders will made this game look even better.
_Pix_
As i asked please correct me? (really please correct me)
I was lead to believe that the bigworld engine was responsible for the world creation, obviusly from a few other posts they have corrected me, either vworld or mafate 1.5. Both of which ring a bell no i think about it. Again i dont pay to much attention to what runs what in the game as its not my forte'.
Trust me i enjoy being corrected its the only way we learn.
Cheers.
So just to sort out my own confusion
Bigworld= Server technology for managing the world
Vworld = Landscape and terrain (which is what they stole, borrowed, took, made. Whatever the discussion is in another thread.)
*better now IK this is not a discussion on who stole what or who owns what. Just want to know how the thing works so there is no confusion on my part
Mafate= characters and models
Is this how it works?
This will be interesting.
p.s. Merge nr2 and nr3 ... and about stole eh nvm.
Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]
BigWorld = Server technology. They also provide a 3D engine, not used for DnL. Link: http://www.bigworldtech.com/index/index_en.php
VWorldTerrain = Terrain (but not only) technology. Technology developed/distributed by VWorld Company. Link: http://www.vworldpowered.com/Gb/GB.htm
Mafate = a game engine making use of not in-house developed technologies: BigWorld, VWorldTerrain but also others as DblManager (a scenario tool, no link) or Loona (a modeling tool developed by Dream-up company) Link in French only: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/dreamup/Entrer.htm . Mafate is an in-house NPCube developement tailored for the needs of DnL.
Hope this can help you to have a better picture.
So you finally agreed BigWorld has nothing to do with viewing distance nor landscape in Sog/DnL/Mafate. But understandably you could not have now for sure, given the surprisingly recurring miscommunication around this feature.
No, it's not only a flight sim
Current Work In Progress
A few other examples... hopefully more to come
Cheers _Pix_
Alot clearer now