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Games you love yet are ruined by a fatal flaw?

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  • eoloeeoloe Member RarePosts: 864
    Elyon.

    The combat theory-crafting looks fun, the world looks interesting, the PvPvE is also worth trying, yet I am not really sure why, I dropped after less hours than I expected.

    I guess the graphics did not satisfied me enough or maybe it is just the lack of originality. Or maybe I did not have enough faith in its success.

    Something in these lines.
    AlBQuirky
  • mrputtsmrputts Member UncommonPosts: 284
    Atlas.

    Fantastic Idea the Ship combat, the ground warfare, trading.

    It's fatal flaw is the Dev Team. They can not do a damn thing correct to make the product any better.
    AlBQuirky

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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    eoloe said:
    Elyon.

    The combat theory-crafting looks fun, the world looks interesting, the PvPvE is also worth trying, yet I am not really sure why, I dropped after less hours than I expected.

    I guess the graphics did not satisfied me enough or maybe it is just the lack of originality. Or maybe I did not have enough faith in its success.

    Something in these lines.
    Elyon, formally Ascent Infinite Realm.

    I had my eye on this game, because I liked the steam punk setting, but, then it dropped off my radar, and.... I just forgot about it.

    NGL, the idea that the game was interwoven with PvP, was not a sell point for me, so there is that.
    AlBQuirky
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • TwistedSister77TwistedSister77 Member EpicPosts: 1,144
    edited December 2021
    Ungood said:
    eoloe said:
    Elyon.

    The combat theory-crafting looks fun, the world looks interesting, the PvPvE is also worth trying, yet I am not really sure why, I dropped after less hours than I expected.

    I guess the graphics did not satisfied me enough or maybe it is just the lack of originality. Or maybe I did not have enough faith in its success.

    Something in these lines.
    Elyon, formally Ascent Infinite Realm.

    I had my eye on this game, because I liked the steam punk setting, but, then it dropped off my radar, and.... I just forgot about it.

    NGL, the idea that the game was interwoven with PvP, was not a sell point for me, so there is that.
    I tried Elyon, I actually was excited about zones where 100+ vs 100+ players fought each other.  The progression system is very interesting and unique.

    However, a couple things killed it for me:  

    People at end game that loved the game, were mostly going to open world mob grind locations... rounding up mobs (with other players) and mass nuking the mobs for their entire play sessions.  That was the big thing to do.  Hence the term we use around here... Korean Grinder (I don't mind if you like that, just not my type of game).

    Second, the lore and atmosphere just didn't grab me.  I didn't feel like I gave a crap about anything, just being mechanical with my toon.

    Finally, there were only 2 North American servers... at the recent launch... one was dead, the other dying... super small population for a launch ...

    Keep in mind I put several hundred hours into New World when Eylon launched, and my New World server went from queues (over the 2k player server cap trying to log in)... to a paltry 200 players at peak in <2 months.  So I didn't want to invest time to a new mmorpg just for it to be dead in <6 months.  No thanks.

    However, Elyon has a lot of solid systems and content.  Truthfully, New World did taint my desire to give a new mmorpg a few hundred hours of my precious gaming time (or more).
    UngoodAlBQuirky
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404
    Any game with action combat has a fatal flaw since I cannot play them. Not really the topic but that is from my personal point of view. Fatal because I literally cannot play them.
    UngoodAlBQuirky
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Ungood said:
    eoloe said:
    Elyon.

    The combat theory-crafting looks fun, the world looks interesting, the PvPvE is also worth trying, yet I am not really sure why, I dropped after less hours than I expected.

    I guess the graphics did not satisfied me enough or maybe it is just the lack of originality. Or maybe I did not have enough faith in its success.

    Something in these lines.
    Elyon, formally Ascent Infinite Realm.

    I had my eye on this game, because I liked the steam punk setting, but, then it dropped off my radar, and.... I just forgot about it.

    NGL, the idea that the game was interwoven with PvP, was not a sell point for me, so there is that.
    I tried Elyon, I actually was excited about zones where 100+ vs 100+ players fought each other.  The progression system is very interesting and unique.

    However, a couple things killed it for me:  

    People at end game that loved the game, were mostly going to open world mob grind locations... rounding up mobs (with other players) and mass nuking the mobs for their entire play sessions.  That was the big thing to do.  Hence the term we use around here... Korean Grinder (I don't mind if you like that, just not my type of game).

    Second, the lore and atmosphere just didn't grab me.  I didn't feel like I gave a crap about anything, just being mechanical with my toon.

    Finally, there were only 2 North American servers... at the recent launch... one was dead, the other dying... super small population for a launch ...

    Keep in mind I put several hundred hours into New World when Eylon launched, and my New World server went from queues (over the 2k player server cap trying to log in)... to a paltry 200 players at peak in <2 months.  So I didn't want to invest time to a new mmorpg just for it to be dead in <6 months.  No thanks.

    However, Elyon has a lot of solid systems and content.  Truthfully, New World did taint my desire to give a new mmorpg a few hundred hours of my precious gaming time (or more).
    Good insight. Thank you.
    AlBQuirkyKyleran
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 7,432
    Ungood said:
    NGL

    It finally hit me what this means! "Not Gonna Lie" :)
    (I learned something, today.)
    UngoodConstantineMerusKyleran

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    - FARGIN_WAR


  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    AlBQuirky said:
    Ungood said:
    NGL

    It finally hit me what this means! "Not Gonna Lie" :)
    (I learned something, today.)
    I always read it as 'Nigel' and the following statement in British accent and to be honest it makes much more sense! ;)
    UngoodMendelAlBQuirky
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    AlBQuirky said:
    Ungood said:
    NGL

    It finally hit me what this means! "Not Gonna Lie" :)
    (I learned something, today.)
    I thought it was some sort of Imperial liquid unit of measure.

    ;)
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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    Cash shops and cheaters.

    I can sum it up with those two things. When they combine it gets even worse. I was playing EverQuest a year or two ago on the progression server. Got a shaman with his epic and was in Seb when I was informed the necros camping the hierophants cloak were bots who had been there for days that our entire group had no chance of contesting. All for the krono.
    AlBQuirky

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  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,675
    edited December 2021
    I'll say that I love WoW but I do not like the 'chores' they've implemented into the game since Legion. Legion was tolerable with the AP grind towards the end of the expansion, but BfA and SL were/are still ones that make me hesistant at re-subbing more often. WoD tried to do it with the daily garrison stuff but it kind of failed, but I miss just gearing up a character via the content I wanted to do originally on it and doing specific content on it, not having to do everything on each character that I want to play just for something specific.
    AlBQuirky
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Kyleran said:
    AlBQuirky said:
    Ungood said:
    NGL

    It finally hit me what this means! "Not Gonna Lie" :)
    (I learned something, today.)
    I thought it was some sort of Imperial liquid unit of measure.

    ;)
    Like Nice Gallon of Liquid?
    KyleranAlBQuirky
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • AkulasAkulas Member RarePosts: 3,029
    WoW - since DKs introduced the start of easy mode and LFG ruined the non random community feel.

    FFXIV: Lets face it, it's a walking simulator / dungeon grinder at the end of the day. Says the guy subbed and a current player.
    AlBQuirky

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  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,400
    Guild Wars 2:
    I know Guild is in the title, but the game focus too much on guilds. Its what ruined WvW, and will totally destroy WvW once Alliances come. Instead of adding Player Housing they added more Guild Housing which most players will never get the chance to play around with due to Guild Politics. The Developers refuse to abandon their failed attempt at Esports, which that refuse to move away from the 5v5 SPvP model. 

    ESO:
    The concept was cool. But it was ruined by the Combat system, trying to different for the sake of being different while also staying accessible to Console control methods. The Level grind was boring and unneeded really. The Ingame Store part of the game ruined it a lot for me because inventory was very limited unless you subbed. They could have at least handled this like Guild Wars 2 does.

    Rift:
    What killed that game for me was when they got rid of the macros. That was the best part of the play, since you had so many skills that needed to be chained together. It made the game playable. Also the level grind was boring mess. It goes against the Rift Portal concept since players would not be interested in Lower Level zones being invaded since the reward was low level. So as people level up they have no reason to go back. one of the major flaws of the Level grind system in MMOs in general.

    New World:
    Where to start? Um this game has lots of flaws, besides the Bugs, which is also a major issue as well. The Level Grind was boring and worse than Vanilla Rift. The combat system feels very limited with the 3 weapon skills model, when each weapon only has 2 trees. There are not many other ways to customize and be unique from anybody else. Also despite being Faction PvP based, I feel nothing is really Faction PvP at all. Everything is Guild vs Guild. If you not in a good Guild, you will be missing out because nothing really Faction like about this game other than the color.
    UngoodAlBQuirkyAmaranthar

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