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System · December 2021

Diablo IV Closes The Year With Latest Quarterly Update | MMORPG.com

Diablo IV is closing out the year with their December quarterly update, this time focusing in on itemization and visual effects.

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toljar · December 2021

I am honestly more excited about D2:R update and season than I am about D4 after hearing this... It is hard to believe they are remaking D3 essentially with D4, but also copying some systems from POE... Where did all of the brilliant talent go at Blizzard?

feelinswank · December 2021

D3 clone with updated graphics? Interesting...

IceAge · December 2021

In before "is D3 Clone" : Please use proper glasses.

Oh, there are already 2 not using them.

Here, let me help you :

Diablo 3 ->

Diablo 4 ->

If you still can't see the difference beside .... Graphics, then i'm afraid I cannot help you anymore.

cameltosis · December 2021

IceAge said:

In before "is D3 Clone" : Please use proper glasses.

Oh, there are already 2 not using them.

Here, let me help you :

Diablo 3 ->

Diablo 4 ->

If you still can't see the difference beside .... Graphics, then i'm afraid I cannot help you anymore.

Honestly, I can't see much difference

Looks like the same number of skills, same style of movement, same sort of graphics and visual effects.

The combat looked slower in IV, and the damage numbers are turned off so it looks clearer than the vid of 3. But, that could just be down to using a 2h weapon in the second vid.

The spell effects did look more impactful in the vid for IV, but whether changing a 2 second effect to a 4 second effect will make much difference to the player remains to be seen.

Truvidienn · December 2021

And just like that instant buy for me.

IceAge · December 2021

cameltosis said:

IceAge said:

In before "is D3 Clone" : Please use proper glasses.

Oh, there are already 2 not using them.

Here, let me help you :

Diablo 3 ->

Diablo 4 ->

If you still can't see the difference beside .... Graphics, then i'm afraid I cannot help you anymore.

Honestly, I can't see much difference

Looks like the same number of skills, same style of movement, same sort of graphics and visual effects.

The combat looked slower in IV, and the damage numbers are turned off so it looks clearer than the vid of 3. But, that could just be down to using a 2h weapon in the second vid.

The spell effects did look more impactful in the vid for IV, but whether changing a 2 second effect to a 4 second effect will make much difference to the player remains to be seen.

Similarities doesn't mean is a clone. Do cars look all the same to you? If the answer is yes, then carry on!

Same sort of graphics and visual affects /facepalm

D3 :

https://www.gamingcfg.com/img/1721/Diablo-3-Imperial-Palace.jpg

https://www.gamingcfg.com/img/1927/Highlands-Crossing-Diablo-3.jpg

D4 :

https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/diablo-4-screenshots-13-2060x1288.jpg

https://www.dsogaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Diablo-4-feature-1-1914x1080.jpg

Do keep in mind that this is very early in D4 development and it will improve a lot.

If the graphics looks the same, then PoE , D3, Grim Dawn all look the same, right?

Magnetia · December 2021

Just looks like a port of d2 onto the d3 engine

jtckline3 · December 2021

People here hating D4 before its even out are the ones who rush to preorder it.

Who knows behind close doors.

ElonMusk · December 2021

All the people in the comment section arguing lol. At the end of the day, regardless of how they do things, you're all gonna suck at the game, majorly. You folks spend more time typing on forums than playing games.

FrodoFragins · December 2021

It's definitely improving and already appears to be miles better than D3. but yes it's clear they are building on the D3 engine, which is buttery smooth for combat.

I still need to see more details on endgame and some improvements to itemization and skills. And of course that paragon system needs fleshing out.

It's already shown that it will likely be better than Last Epoch, which is a game I think still has promise.

D2R holds no interest to me unless they add personal loot for grouping on ladders or the major conversion mods work for non ladder multiplayer someday. D2 was revolutionary and my favorite game at one time. but it's ridiculously dated and Activision being so greedy and anti-mods turns me off greatly.

IceAge · December 2021

FrodoFragins said:

It's definitely improving and already appears to be miles better than D3. but yes it's clear they are building on the D3 engine, which is buttery smooth for combat.

D3 has the most amazing and fluid combat from all the "clones" ( lol ), I agree, and I love the idea of having it in D4 with improvements of course.

Maybe that's why people say "clone!!!" because they see the similarities in combat animation and are like "clone!!!".

ElonMusk said:

You folks spend more time typing on forums than playing games.

I have some .. thousands of hours in D3 and I am currently playing S25 which is amazing. I bet the ones saying D4 is a D3 clone don't even play or played D3, let alone being able to tell the differences between D3 and D4, which are many.

cameltosis · December 2021

IceAge said:

cameltosis said:

IceAge said:

In before "is D3 Clone" : Please use proper glasses.

Oh, there are already 2 not using them.

Here, let me help you :

Diablo 3 ->

Diablo 4 ->

If you still can't see the difference beside .... Graphics, then i'm afraid I cannot help you anymore.

Honestly, I can't see much difference

Looks like the same number of skills, same style of movement, same sort of graphics and visual effects.

The combat looked slower in IV, and the damage numbers are turned off so it looks clearer than the vid of 3. But, that could just be down to using a 2h weapon in the second vid.

The spell effects did look more impactful in the vid for IV, but whether changing a 2 second effect to a 4 second effect will make much difference to the player remains to be seen.

Similarities doesn't mean is a clone. Do cars look all the same to you? If the answer is yes, then carry on!

Same sort of graphics and visual affects /facepalm

D3 :

https://www.gamingcfg.com/img/1721/Diablo-3-Imperial-Palace.jpg

https://www.gamingcfg.com/img/1927/Highlands-Crossing-Diablo-3.jpg

D4 :

https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/diablo-4-screenshots-13-2060x1288.jpg

https://www.dsogaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Diablo-4-feature-1-1914x1080.jpg

Do keep in mind that this is very early in D4 development and it will improve a lot.

If the graphics looks the same, then PoE , D3, Grim Dawn all look the same, right?

You previously said "If you still can't see the difference beside .... Graphics, then i'm afraid I cannot help you anymore."

I can see the difference in graphics. My post was all about not being able to see any differences apart from the graphics. So far, no-one seems to have pointed out any other differences either, so it very much looks like a D3 clone so far.

And, well, yeh, PoE, D3 and Grim Dawn all look the same to me. Graphics quality really means bugger all to me, I couldnt care less about higher resolution textures or spell effects. Art style, perspective and IP have a far bigger influence on my aesthetic preferences than graphics quality.

IceAge · December 2021

cameltosis said:

And, well, yeh, PoE, D3 and Grim Dawn all look the same to me.

Thanks for proving my point. Nothing to .. see here! I'll move along!

toljar · December 2021

IceAge said:

cameltosis said:

And, well, yeh, PoE, D3 and Grim Dawn all look the same to me.

Thanks for proving my point. Nothing to .. see here! I'll move along!

Man you are quite the schill... Most people here are saying the same thing (The it looks like a clone) but you just won't let it go. Maybe you need to step back and understand if it looks like a shit pile... maybe it is a shit pile?

cameltosis · December 2021

IceAge said:

cameltosis said:

And, well, yeh, PoE, D3 and Grim Dawn all look the same to me.

Thanks for proving my point. Nothing to .. see here! I'll move along!

So, does that mean you are saying that the differences in gameplay between D3 and D4 can only be seen and explained to extreme fans of the ARPG genre?

You keep saying that there are clear differences in gameplay between the two games, but you've yet to actually say what they are.....despite us asking. I am genuinely curious, and I'm pretty certain I'll be able to understand you if you explain the differences to me.

IceAge · December 2021

toljar said:

IceAge said:

cameltosis said:

And, well, yeh, PoE, D3 and Grim Dawn all look the same to me.

Thanks for proving my point. Nothing to .. see here! I'll move along!

Man you are quite the schill... Most people here are saying the same thing (The it looks like a clone) but you just won't let it go. Maybe you need to step back and understand if it looks like a shit pile... maybe it is a shit pile?

Man, you will be surprised how "anti" are most of the users in here.

Until you, or the ones who says "IS A CLONE", come up with actual evidences and explain what exactly is a "clone" beside "...but is a clone", i'll keep my stand.

As I said, don't take similarities as being a clone. D4 can easily stand on his own as we speak, even tho' the alpha is not even there.

In comparation to D3, D4 have : New graphics, new atmosphere, new systems, new art-work, new and improved animation, new itemization, etc.

What D3 have in common with D4 as we speak, is the combat animations, which I'm happy they took this path, because D3 have the most amazing combat ever.

Now, is your turn, or .. whoever wants to point out, what exactly is 'cloning'.

For a fair comparation, I should have pointed out D3 Closed Beta Screenshots ( or Alpha ), vs D4 ( not even in Alpha ), but I won't, because the differences will be extremely big.

cameltosis said:

IceAge said:

cameltosis said:

And, well, yeh, PoE, D3 and Grim Dawn all look the same to me.

Thanks for proving my point. Nothing to .. see here! I'll move along!

So, does that mean you are saying that the differences in gameplay between D3 and D4 can only be seen and explained to extreme fans of the ARPG genre?

You keep saying that there are clear differences in gameplay between the two games, but you've yet to actually say what they are.....despite us asking. I am genuinely curious, and I'm pretty certain I'll be able to understand you if you explain the differences to me.

No, not to extreme fans of ARPG, but as I said above, if you make a statement, come up with ...evidences, like I did some posts above, showing D3 vs D4 Graphics, which are very clearly different, even tho' you and some of people around here, says other-wise.

I've posted above the differences in game-play. Oh, I should also add, if we are speaking about gameplay, that D4 will be very , very different in terms of game-play in comparation with D3.

D4 will be open-world ( to some extend ), with a focus on dungeons, big open world bosses, etc. You can meet lots of people on the same screen vs 4 in D3. You can do Raiding, vs ..no such thing in D3, etc.

D4 will have mounts and a lot more of a char customization than D3.

Now go ahead and tell me with a straight face, that D4 gameplay is a D3 clone!

Iselin · December 2021

FrodoFragins said:

... it's clear they are building on the D3 engine, which is buttery smooth for combat.

Didi you play it last season or the one before that?

It was anything but buttery smooth for any build that uses area damage not to mention the problems they had with the new Wizard Firebird rework and the use of clones. It was a bloody lag fest for many that was somehow related to sound of all things: if you turned the sound channel down to minimum number of channels it helped a bit but the lag was still there for many even with that workaround.

There were literally hundreds of posts about it in the D3 tech support forum.

kjempff · December 2021

I just hope it will be not be a number game like...
POE, with incomprehensible wording and complex formulas that 99% don't understand, which then can be combined for a 100 gazillion multiplier.
D4 with one very linear multiplier, void of excitement and tactical decisions.

Just less number game.

FrodoFragins · December 2021

Iselin said:

FrodoFragins said:

... it's clear they are building on the D3 engine, which is buttery smooth for combat.

Didi you play it last season or the one before that?

It was anything but buttery smooth for any build that uses area damage not to mention the problems they had with the new Wizard Firebird rework and the use of clones. It was a bloody lag fest for many that was somehow related to sound of all things: if you turned the sound channel down to minimum number of channels it helped a bit but the lag was still there for many even with that workaround.

There were literally hundreds of posts about it in the D3 tech support forum.

I've played the last 6 seasons I believe for the journey rewards. It seems you are handpicking one revamped set that had issues and a bug with sound that had a workaround.

Anyway, yeah it's the smoothest combat in the industry. POE has always been clunky in comparison.

IceAge · December 2021

FrodoFragins said:

Iselin said:

FrodoFragins said:

... it's clear they are building on the D3 engine, which is buttery smooth for combat.

Didi you play it last season or the one before that?

It was anything but buttery smooth for any build that uses area damage not to mention the problems they had with the new Wizard Firebird rework and the use of clones. It was a bloody lag fest for many that was somehow related to sound of all things: if you turned the sound channel down to minimum number of channels it helped a bit but the lag was still there for many even with that workaround.

There were literally hundreds of posts about it in the D3 tech support forum.

I've played the last 6 seasons I believe for the journey rewards. It seems you are handpicking one revamped set that had issues and a bug with sound that had a workaround.

Anyway, yeah it's the smoothest combat in the industry. POE has always been clunky in comparison.

If PoE had the D3 combat, it would of been the best thing in the industry.

Sadly, is very clunky and not responsive at all. I still play PoE here and there, depending on the season, but hopefully, PoE2 will improve a lot, because I want both games to succeed, since competition is very good, at least for us, players.

FrodoFragins · December 2021

IceAge said:

FrodoFragins said:

Iselin said:

FrodoFragins said:

... it's clear they are building on the D3 engine, which is buttery smooth for combat.

Didi you play it last season or the one before that?

It was anything but buttery smooth for any build that uses area damage not to mention the problems they had with the new Wizard Firebird rework and the use of clones. It was a bloody lag fest for many that was somehow related to sound of all things: if you turned the sound channel down to minimum number of channels it helped a bit but the lag was still there for many even with that workaround.

There were literally hundreds of posts about it in the D3 tech support forum.

I've played the last 6 seasons I believe for the journey rewards. It seems you are handpicking one revamped set that had issues and a bug with sound that had a workaround.

Anyway, yeah it's the smoothest combat in the industry. POE has always been clunky in comparison.

If PoE had the D3 combat, it would of been the best thing in the industry.

Sadly, is very clunky and not responsive at all. I still play PoE here and there, depending on the season, but hopefully, PoE2 will improve a lot, because I want both games to succeed, since competition is very good, at least for us, players.

Well they need to improve a lot about POE first as I don't think POE development is moving very fast at all. Apparently they are going to make a major revamp of the atlas, after trimming it for this season. That's a good start.

ConstantineMerus · December 2021

Doesn't matter what they release, I don't even want to know beforehand, since I am sure I am going to play the hell of it, even if it would be an exact D3 clone.

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