Sony Is Acquiring Destiny and Halo Creator Bungie In $3.6 Billion Deal | MMORPG.com

System · January 2022

Sony Is Acquiring Destiny and Halo Creator Bungie In $3.6 Billion Deal | MMORPG.com

Just two weeks after Microsoft announced its intent to buy Activision Blizzard, Sony has joined the studio-buying club again, acquiring Destiny developer Bungie for $3.6 billion.

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Tiller · January 2022

So in the future MS and Sony will own most of everything. The thing that annoys me with Sony is they tend to grip more exclusive titles to try and force gamers onto their platform than Microsoft has in the past; which makes me not want to buy into their platform.

Aeander · January 2022

Microsoft now owns Sony's mascots and Sony now owns the makers of Microsoft's mascot.

In fairness, this was an intelligent move by Sony. They lack a good fps, and this gives them leverage against MS pulling CoD.

And the optimist in me sees this as a potentially good marriage. Bungie gives Sony the shooting mechanics they lack, and Sony gives Bungie the storytelling they woefully lack.

ACommonMugger · January 2022

Sigh.

Tuor7 · January 2022

Bungie really likes selling themselves, but they don't like being sold.

laserit · January 2022

So is this a game of attrition now?

Instead of opening up, the reality will be closing up?

Not looking very good for console players, maybe they should consider the PC

lordsmok · January 2022

meh bungie are greedy fs co dont care :P

BLNX · January 2022

Tiller said:

So in the future MS and Sony will own most of everything. The thing that annoys me with Sony is they tend to grip more exclusive titles to try and force gamers onto their platform than Microsoft has in the past; which makes me not want to buy into their platform.

While I agree with you, I think most people are forgetting another player here: Nintendo. Nintendo has been living off their exclusives (and second party developers) since they made the NES.

I don't like exclusives, but for Microsoft and Sony to be buying companies and IP isn't outside the practice of one of the leading companies of the last 30 years. It sucks, like a lot of things in the industry.

Aeander · January 2022

BLNX said:

Tiller said:

So in the future MS and Sony will own most of everything. The thing that annoys me with Sony is they tend to grip more exclusive titles to try and force gamers onto their platform than Microsoft has in the past; which makes me not want to buy into their platform.

While I agree with you, I think most people are forgetting another player here: Nintendo. Nintendo has been living off their exclusives (and second party developers) since they made the NES.

I don't like exclusives, but for Microsoft and Sony to be buying companies and IP isn't outside the practice of one of the leading companies of the last 30 years. It sucks, like a lot of things in the industry.

Eh. There's a key difference.

Most Nintendo and Sony exclusives enrich the industry. They are built for their platforms from the start, and they are meant to be games of such excellent quality that they sell the platform on merit.

Microsoft's recent moves haven't been value creation - they've been value destruction. Pulling established and popular franchises away from other platforms.

Aeander · January 2022

Torval said:

Aeander said:

BLNX said:

Tiller said:

So in the future MS and Sony will own most of everything. The thing that annoys me with Sony is they tend to grip more exclusive titles to try and force gamers onto their platform than Microsoft has in the past; which makes me not want to buy into their platform.

While I agree with you, I think most people are forgetting another player here: Nintendo. Nintendo has been living off their exclusives (and second party developers) since they made the NES.

I don't like exclusives, but for Microsoft and Sony to be buying companies and IP isn't outside the practice of one of the leading companies of the last 30 years. It sucks, like a lot of things in the industry.

Eh. There's a key difference.

Most Nintendo and Sony exclusives enrich the industry. They are built for their platforms from the start, and they are meant to be games of such excellent quality that they sell the platform on merit.

Microsoft's recent moves haven't been value creation - they've been value destruction. Pulling established and popular franchises away from other platforms.

lolwut? Enrich the industry? Maybe you mean line corporate pockets and push a platform, but "enriching the industry" is some serious mental gymnastics. There is nothing enriching about platform exclusives. If a platform can only compete by exclusives instead of the features or power it brings then it isn't enriching anything.

I profoundly and completely disagree, and the evidence backs me up. Gamers care about games, not power or features. The weaker platforms have consistently won the last few generations because of better game lineups. And even on PC, was the viable competitor to Steam the feature superior GoG? No, it was the feature inferior EGS, entirely because of exclusives.

Exclusives are good for the industry, because they are meritocracy incarnate. The best games, often with the fewest microtransactions, taking on the highest risks because they are meant to get people into a platform. I'll take that business cost over lootboxes any day.

BLNX · January 2022

What about the Wii U?

Aeander · January 2022

BLNX said:

What about the Wii U?

Was why I said weaker over weakest. Because yes, the Wii U flopped due to lack of games. The PS4 Pro was weaker than the Xbox once the One X came out, and yet dominated that generation. And did the One X become their best selling platform for its power when it was released? No, it was outsold by the One S.

emperorhades1 · January 2022

For 3.6 billion or 76 billion or name your dollar amount, I would think you could hire the best in the business for a 5 year time frame and create a game engine and a plethora of games to fit every platform. I don't understand the buying of used IP. I mean if you buy a lean mean game producing machine ok. But, buying all this corporate fat doesnt seem logical. The apple computer was built in a garage. Diablo and diablo II had less than 40 people. Everquest had about 24ish developers. If 1000 people made 200k per year for 5 years. You would still have 2.6 billion in your budget. The 76 billion activision deal, holy crap.

Aeander · January 2022

emperorhades1 said:

For 3.6 billion or 76 billion or name your dollar amount, I would think you could hire the best in the business for a 5 year time frame and create a game engine and a plethora of games to fit every platform. I don't understand the buying of used IP. I mean if you buy a lean mean game producing machine ok. But, buying all this corporate fat doesnt seem logical. The apple computer was built in a garage. Diablo and diablo II had less than 40 people. Everquest had about 24ish developers. If 1000 people made 200k per year for 5 years. You would still have 2.6 billion in your budget. The 76 billion activision deal, holy crap.

The complexity and technological cost of development has increased so grossly since the days of Diablo and Everquest. Like, it's not even comparable. It just makes more sense as a short term investment to secure established studios. Especially for Microsoft who have the money to throw around and want to fast track their way into competing with the lineups that others have spent decades building.

And of course, this is a both situation. Sony and Microsoft make their own studios. They also buy them. They also make partnerships with third parties.

Same for Nintendo. They make some small acquisitions, but they make their own studios. They also have an abnormal tendency to form exclusive second party partnerships rather than acquire studios (this is the case with Pokemon's Gamefreak and Fire Emblem's Intelligent Systems). And they've been increasingly strengthening 3rd party co-development, particularly with Bandai Namco and Koei Tecmo.

IceAge · January 2022

I would have wish this to be the other way around. Blizzard bought up by Sony and Bungie by MS, since I like Sony more.

Anyway, hope this ..moves will make a solid "battleplayground" between MS and Sony which in the end will result in solid releases for us, the gamers.

Tiller · February 2022

BLNX said:

Tiller said:

So in the future MS and Sony will own most of everything. The thing that annoys me with Sony is they tend to grip more exclusive titles to try and force gamers onto their platform than Microsoft has in the past; which makes me not want to buy into their platform.

While I agree with you, I think most people are forgetting another player here: Nintendo. Nintendo has been living off their exclusives (and second party developers) since they made the NES.

I don't like exclusives, but for Microsoft and Sony to be buying companies and IP isn't outside the practice of one of the leading companies of the last 30 years. It sucks, like a lot of things in the industry.

Oh I'm not forgetting Nintendo, they are the worst. It's why so many emulators for their games have existed since the late 90's.

emperorhades1 · February 2022

Meanwhile..! At Microsoft, we have a new airplane called the Fokker FVII. Seems a bit deliberate.

OldKingLog · February 2022

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TwistedSister77 · February 2022

And... Amazon Game Studios: "we're almost in worse shape than the Amazon Fire Cellphone division before closure. "

Slapshot1188 · February 2022

Tiller said:

So in the future MS and Sony will own most of everything.

No...

Highlander quick - THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE

ConstantineMerus · February 2022

There is our FPS backup plan. And we have done it relatively cheap.

kjempff · February 2022

Wish they would have kept SOE and spent some of that money on EqNext. Maybe we would have a mmorpg worth playing by now.

cheyane · February 2022

kjempff said:

Wish they would have kept SOE and spent some of that money on EqNext. Maybe we would have a mmorpg worth playing by now.

I think SOE was costing them too much and they got rid of it.

Ginaz · February 2022

Slapshot1188 said:

Tiller said:

So in the future MS and Sony will own most of everything.

No...

Yeah, if anyone is going to win the war of which company can gobble up the most game studios it's MS. They have A LOT more money than Sony does to do it.

kitarad · February 2022

Ginaz said:

Slapshot1188 said:

Tiller said:

So in the future MS and Sony will own most of everything.

No...

Yeah, if anyone is going to win the war of which company can gobble up the most game studios it's MS. They have A LOT more money than Sony does to do it.

Which is terrible when there is no real competition we the consumer will lose.

ConstantineMerus · February 2022

Microsoft will not acquire anymore studios. Ever again.

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