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wow..not the game..but disgust
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Turbine is garbage.. they keep putting these garbage games out..for some reason they are afraid of pvp..this game could have been so cool. If people were able to play the evil side..it could have been awesome..but of course instead you cant play the evil side..so it will be a garbage game with no pvp.. D&D online has to be one of the most dissapointing games i have ever played..this is looking to go down the same road...
I dont think this company knows how to put a good game out anymore.
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Did the same developers work on DDO that work on LOTRO?
Personally I'm holding my disgust for when the game comes out and if it isn't any good.
There are dozens of games that are pvp-centric or feature pvp. They don't all need those components, do they?
Even with this title, I could see large scale battles down the line, but maybe they just want to create the story based world first and work from there.
I can think of a certain game where the world creation was great, but they never added the story elements at all, and while focusing on combat exclusively and revamping it over and over, they are still scratching their heads and saying hmm...why doesn't this work? World/story/combat mechanics in that order.
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Do not hate it, but instead embrace the diversity.
For those who don't care about the lore or the story, about actaully adventuring in middle earth and who have not been dreaming about doing so since they were a kid and first read the books. Yes what you described would make a perfect game.
For those of us who do care about the lore and the story and have been dreaming about exploring middle earth since we were kids. What turbine is doing is the perfect game for us.
Not everyone has the same taste in games, not everygame caters to everyones whims. There is not a single game out there that pleases everyone who plays it.
With all the PVP based games coming out, Darkfall for one. Why do you have to doomsay on a game you will not play. Why can't you just say this game is not for me and i will not play it.
From the original poster :
"If people were able to play the evil side..it could have been awesome..but of course instead you cant play the evil side..so "
Yeah, speak for yourself and the rest of the garbage community that would bring, no thankx, stay in your WoWoW.
For those who don't care about the lore or the story, about actaully adventuring in middle earth and who have not been dreaming about doing so since they were a kid and first read the books. Yes what you described would make a perfect game.
For those of us who do care about the lore and the story and have been dreaming about exploring middle earth since we were kids. What turbine is doing is the perfect game for us.
Not everyone has the same taste in games, not everygame caters to everyones whims. There is not a single game out there that pleases everyone who plays it.
With all the PVP based games coming out, Darkfall for one. Why do you have to doomsay on a game you will not play. Why can't you just say this game is not for me and i will not play it.
I care very much about the lore of Tolkien's world. I also have dreamed of being able to explore every square inch of Middle Earth.
However, Im not very convinced Turbine's vision is the perfect game for me. I much more prefer Vivendi's previous version of Middle Earth (before Turbine bought them out and scrapped it).
I want to explore on my own and discover hidden places. I want to do quests that arent handed to me or easy to find. I dont want to play a linear WoW clone where Im led like a child to each zone for a series of quests.
I want choice, freedom, sandbox style of play, no level restrictions, crafting that matters, non-combat professions (99% of hobbits where no where near combat).
Turbine's vision and mine are very different
My words exactly.
And btw, people say Turbine is all about lore and keeping the game 'middle-earthis'... how does that teleporting through stables fit in?
i agree .. there are plenty of games with heavy emphasis on pvp (warhammer)
LOTR doesnt have to be PVP ... and it kind of sucks that PVP has become such a selling point to a game .. half of the people will bitch for PVP .. the other half will discourage other players from playing because of lack of PVP ... but then when PVP is implemented ... practically no one PVP's
ive played many fatasy games ... and aside from UO, and DAOC, PVP is pretty much dead in all of em, as in no one participates in it.. your better off buying a sci fi mmo these days if your really into PVP ..
unless of course you want to play ( warhammer )
Well you know I really didn't expect this game to have PvP from the beginning. It maybe will be possible to include it later but really I don't care - most people tend to like PvE anyways (me included).
See I've seen so much childish and profane coments doing PvP battles that I really got tired of it.
Hell - if some of the people participating in an PvP battle would be sitting next to each other, they probably would have started fighting in real life.
No, I actually like haveing a non-PvP in middle-earth - for now.
*Pwned!*
What if I don't want to participate in PvP? No matter how PvP is manifested in LOTRO, you will not get attacked by another player without your consent. PvP does not mean getting “ganked” – that won’t happen in LOTRO. If you don't like PvP, you don’t have to participate if you don’t want to. Ever.
Is LOTRO going to change because of PvP? We haven’t made any changes to our core designs (combat, questing, crafting, kinships, etc.) to accommodate PvP nor do we anticipate doing so. While there will probably be some balance changes for some of the class skills, the core game will not change. If you've been excited about LOTRO before we announced PvP there is no reason for that interest or excitement to diminish. In fact, everything we are discussing is always in the context of what will work best for this game, and for Middle-earth. The fact is, lots of things will cause us to change details within the game during development, Beta, and even after launch - with or without PvP. Which leads us to …
Didn't you say there wasn't going to be PvP? Yes we did. For a time we stated we had no plans to put in traditional forms of PvP. Our perspective has changed over time, and for many good reasons that we'll be discussing when we talk more about PvP. Change is a reality when dealing with a development project like LOTRO. In the past months we’ve been talking a lot more about LOTRO and in the coming months we’ll be releasing even more information. The more we communicate with you all, the more risk we take that something we communicated might change and that some of you may get upset about that. We would rather communicate than keep you all in the dark. I can guarantee you that as we get feedback during Beta that other things will change too. That’s the reality of these kinds of games and honestly, flexibility in design is a good thing.
Why did you add PvP? PvP creates an interesting gameplay dynamic that we believe will not only help LOTRO to be more successful, but will also add to the immersion of the game for those who enjoy PvP. For those who don’t, we’re going to make sure they don’t have to participate. Right now we’re finalizing how PvP will work and once we are comfortable with the design and feasibility of the plan, we will post it and ask for your feedback. Bear in mind that this system leverages the game we have already built, and is by no means a last-minute "add-on".
So what now? The PvP forum was created so players can tell us what they’d like to see regarding PvP in LOTRO. While everyone is entitled to their opinion about whether PvP is fun or not, the feedback that is most useful and that we are most looking for is:
Given that we are implementing PvP, how would you like to see it happen?
What are the aspects of PvP that you’d like to see and what aspects would you prefer we didn’t do and why?
Any other ideas or thoughts you may have how PvP should work in LOTRO in your opinion.
Etc. We understand that some of the confusion and frustration you all are expressing is caused largely because we haven’t released much information yet on how PvP will work. For that, we apologize. Hopefully we’ll be able to post some more detailed aspects of the design in the coming weeks and months. But in the meantime, if you want to give us feedback about how you’d like to see PvP implemented, now is the time to do it.
We’re going to be cleaning up the PvP forum a little as there are a lot of threads that are talking about the same thing. We know this is a controversial topic and we look forward to hearing your feedback.
Thanks in advance for your patience everyone. We appreciate it a lot.
-Jonathan "Calandryll" Hanna
Director of Community Relations
Turbine, Inc.
~ Ancient Membership ~
I actually enjoy the PvE environment much more than PvP. I played WoW for quite ome time and really got tired of all the trash talking 12 year olds that infest the PvP system. The good part was that you could not understand the players from the other races, lol. The general idea that the players should cooperate and play together is what Turbine is trying to promote rather than trash talking about who is a better such and such. This to me is a better environment to play in and tends to attract the more mature crowds. I have been amazed in DDO how few ego inflated pre-pubescents are represented compared to other mmorgps I have played.
I do however think that it would have brought an interesting perspective to the game to be able to play the evil side. It is something that the books really did not touch on and I believe would have allowed tons of artistic license by Turbine in storyline and side plots.
My words exactly.
And btw, people say Turbine is all about lore and keeping the game 'middle-earthis'... how does that teleporting through stables fit in?
You can teleport through stables? That sucks.
My words exactly.
And btw, people say Turbine is all about lore and keeping the game 'middle-earthis'... how does that teleporting through stables fit in?
You can teleport through stables? That sucks.
My words exactly.
And btw, people say Turbine is all about lore and keeping the game 'middle-earthis'... how does that teleporting through stables fit in?
You can teleport through stables? That sucks.
You can't teleport through stables. What you do is go to a stable and unlock it. Then you have to walk to the next stable and unlock it. Then you have an option to fast travel. Were you rent a horse and there will be a cut scene of a minute or so of a rider on a horse. When the scene is over you will be at the stable you choose to travel too. That is not instant teleporting. Just a faster way to travel around once you have been to places and unlock the stables. If you don't like it you do not have to utilize the feature. It is basically so that people can gather together faster than waiting for your tank to run to bree to meet you from the iron hills or hobbiton.
I am giving turbine one last chance not to mess up a great licence as they did with DDO.
But then again considering big brother M$ has dumped them it will probably be their last chance.A flop of LOTR without a big brother holding their hands will probably bankrupt them.
just thought i would mention that every game that has been officaly based on tolkiens original works has been done so under the strictest guidelines set out by those who own the rights to it, so no pvp/playing the bad guys unless it stays true to the original works off tolkien
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DDO turned out exactly how they said it would. Ok it hasnt worked quite as well as they thought, lack of content, no end game etc etc, but they have realised this and are adding more solo and high end content all the time.
With LOTRO just looking at the web site and all the fan sites out there you can see how great this game could be, you cant just right it off because its TURBINE.
have faith