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More Game Companies Are Joining In The Digital Blockade Against Russia | MMORPG.com

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edited March 2022 in News & Features Discussion

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As Russia's war of aggression wages against Ukraine, companies from all over the Western world have been joining in to isolate Russia. The games industry isn't being left out here, with major companies announcing they are joining the likes of Visa, Mastercard and more in boycotting Russia.

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  • Gobstopper3DGobstopper3D Member RarePosts: 970
    More PR moves. This will have little if any impact on Putin or Russian leadership. All this will do is make a situation worse for the civilians of Russia, who have nothing to do with the invasion.

    Let see if they take the same steps against China when they invade Taiwan.
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  • RungarRungar Member RarePosts: 1,132
    the "west" is isolating itself or should I say cancelling itself? All by design. Pivot to Asia nearing completion. 
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  • BrotherMaynardBrotherMaynard Member RarePosts: 647
    Yeah... no. This is because major credit card companies and payment processors can't realistically operate in Russia due to the current sanctions. If Visa, MasterCard and others are unable to process payments from Russia, then there will be no game sales there - no matter how much Activision, EA, Microsoft and others wish to spin it, the spineless liars.

    Making this kind of public statements just makes them look pathetic, to be honest (even more than usual, that is). But I'm sure there will be plenty of gamers who will swallow this BS and applaud them for it.
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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    I'm going to nitpick here, but an embargo is not a blockade.  A blockade is intrinsically implemented by military force.  It's also an act of war, and the country under blockade is unquestionably justified in using their own military force to try to break the blockade.  Gaming companies don't have real-life armies of their own and aren't going to try to blockade anyone.

    What we have here is an embargo.  Various western nations, including but not limited to the United States, are implementing an embargo against Russia.  A lot of companies would be in severe legal trouble if they continue doing business in Russia.  An embargo isn't an act of war, as it's basically saying, you can do business with either Russia or the United States but not both.  Companies could legally decide to stop doing business with various western countries and only do business with Russia and other countries that are friendly toward Russia (or at least neutral).  That would be suicidal for companies that get most of their revenue from the US and Europe and very little revenue from Russia.

    Companies saying that they'll comply with the embargo isn't really surprising.  It's not really their decision, as they're effectively being forced into it, whether willingly or otherwise.

    Donating money to charities is their decision, though when corporations do this, it's generally for the sake of good PR.  You can applaud that or not, and you can encourage it if you want to by favoring companies that donate to charities you like over those that don't.  But it's not really a moral decision on the part of the corporation the way it often is when individuals donate to charity.
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  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,675
    edited March 2022


    Yeah... no. This is because major credit card companies and payment processors can't realistically operate in Russia due to the current sanctions. If Visa, MasterCard and others are unable to process payments from Russia, then there will be no game sales there - no matter how much Activision, EA, Microsoft and others wish to spin it, the spineless liars.



    Making this kind of public statements just makes them look pathetic, to be honest (even more than usual, that is). But I'm sure there will be plenty of gamers who will swallow this BS and applaud them for it.



    I agree that this is just for show, but honestly they would be stupid to not go for an easy win like this, especially when you have companies like McDonalds/Coke/Pepsi not refusing to do service there (even though those can easily operate on physical currency and much less so for the ones listed here).
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  • RaagnarzRaagnarz Member RarePosts: 647

    Rungar said:

    the "west" is isolating itself or should I say cancelling itself? All by design. Pivot to Asia nearing completion. 



    China and Russia have always been bed buddies. No major change to world operations is happening other than every country worth a shit in this world that isn't China is vehemently against Russia and has turned them into a pariah. China isn't speaking out against Russia because they want to use the Russian example here to do the same to Taiwan later.
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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    More PR moves. This will have little if any impact on Putin or Russian leadership. All this will do is make a situation worse for the civilians of Russia, who have nothing to do with the invasion.

    Let see if they take the same steps against China when they invade Taiwan.
    Of course it's a PR move.

    But it might not be that ineffective. Putin's control over Russia is not strong enough that he could just ignore the population and internal matters. All the embargoes together might be strong enough that if the war continues longer we might see some party within Russia trying to topple Putin. Though I think for that to happen, Europe would also need to figure a way to stop buying gas from Russia, but that's easier said than done.

    Also Russia has bombarded a lot of residential buildings in Ukraine, caused shortages of food and water, and more than a million refugees. Compared to that, the inconvenience caused to Russian civilians doesn't really matter, since it's only inconveniences and they still have their homes, food, water and other essentials.
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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    Raagnarz said:

    Rungar said:

    the "west" is isolating itself or should I say cancelling itself? All by design. Pivot to Asia nearing completion. 



    China and Russia have always been bed buddies. No major change to world operations is happening other than every country worth a shit in this world that isn't China is vehemently against Russia and has turned them into a pariah. China isn't speaking out against Russia because they want to use the Russian example here to do the same to Taiwan later.
    For China I think this is like a free test bed on what their invasion to Taiwan would cause.

    China isn't that good buddies with neither Ukraine nor Russia and I don't think they really care who wins. But they want to see how Western Countries react, and use that to judge what our reaction would be should they attack Taiwan.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    More PR moves. This will have little if any impact on Putin or Russian leadership. All this will do is make a situation worse for the civilians of Russia, who have nothing to do with the invasion.

    Let see if they take the same steps against China when they invade Taiwan.
    Probably will work the other way, Chinese backed game publishers will institute a boycott of Western gamers, who will likely cave immediately. ;)
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    Vrika said:
    Raagnarz said:

    Rungar said:

    the "west" is isolating itself or should I say cancelling itself? All by design. Pivot to Asia nearing completion. 



    China and Russia have always been bed buddies. No major change to world operations is happening other than every country worth a shit in this world that isn't China is vehemently against Russia and has turned them into a pariah. China isn't speaking out against Russia because they want to use the Russian example here to do the same to Taiwan later.
    For China I think this is like a free test bed on what their invasion to Taiwan would cause.

    China isn't that good buddies with neither Ukraine nor Russia and I don't think they really care who wins. But they want to see how Western Countries react, and use that to judge what our reaction would be should they attack Taiwan.
    Time to move the missle subs in a bit closer...


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  • Viper482Viper482 Member LegendaryPosts: 4,101
    Stick to playing games, some of you obviously don't understand anything else.
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  • MnemnosyneMnemnosyne Member UncommonPosts: 8
    edited March 2022
    I seriously doubt that anyone in the slightest position to make any decisions in Russia is playing video games, so the only people it'll hurt are random Russian civilians that very likely don't exactly support the war anyway.

    So honestly? Strikes me as a major asshole move. Not that it makes much difference since due to the cutting off of ways to transfer money, it'd be very challenging for Russians to even pay for games right now.
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    I hear that this all has something to do with tradable currency, hence why Visa and Mastercard dropped out, and nothing to do virtue signaling. I mean, fuck all if I know the real or whole picture, and some of it might virtue signaling, but I think there is some other reason, some fiscal reason, because, since when did companies like Blizzard have virtues.
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  • vegetableoilvegetableoil Member RarePosts: 768

    Ungood said:

    I hear that this all has something to do with tradable currency, hence why Visa and Mastercard dropped out, and nothing to do virtue signaling. I mean, fuck all if I know the real or whole picture, and some of it might virtue signaling, but I think there is some other reason, some fiscal reason, because, since when did companies like Blizzard have virtues.



    You know it's bad when Russian sovereign bond that is issued in USD that initially paying interest in USD and now it's paying it's interest in Rouble, and have a yield of larger than 20%. their banks are pretty much screwed. the companies that scream "boycott" it's just pretending to jump the band wagon, but in fact they cannot bring the cash out of Russia because the banks got the big middle finger, so might as well scream "boycott" it sounds better for the PR campaign. I pity the short seller, even though their prediction were correct, they can't cash out either because the moscow exchange has not been open since monday after invasion. LOL
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  • DigDuggyDigDuggy Member RarePosts: 694
    I hate to see it. Gamers are probably the least likely to support the war Ukraine. It is the way of the world at the moment and like every other war, citizens are gonna suffer. Putin isn't. I wish ordinary Russian citizens well, while hoping the Ukrainians prevail. Glory to Ukraine. This American stands with you.
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  • RungarRungar Member RarePosts: 1,132

    achesoma said:

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  • KratierKratier Member RarePosts: 626
    i think this has to do more about corporations flexing over nations
    and personally believe russians should suffer, as they are the people invading and murdering innocent people. maybe if they suffer enough, putin can finally get gone
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    Can the ordinary Russian do anything about their dear leader?

  • waveslayerwaveslayer Member UncommonPosts: 607
    edited March 2022

    kitarad said:

    Can the ordinary Russian do anything about their dear leader?



    yes enough together could

    Hats off to any company that sends a message that the invasion of another democratic free country is not OK

    Lets face it, Putin is testing the USA and the EU to see how far he can go, Putin wants eastern europe under his control and if he gets away with the ukraine invasion whats next, Poland Finland Germany, he wont stop with Ukraine, and the meantime China sits back and watches what happens they have thier own asperations to expand into the pacific
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    kitarad said:
    Can the ordinary Russian do anything about their dear leader?
    Can the ordinary (insert totalitarian citizenship of your choice here) do anything about theirs?
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,427
    edited March 2022
    Donating to the Ukrainian Red Cross is a noble gesture, not selling your games in Russia is gesture politics. Why not sell the games and donate the proceeds to the Red Cross?
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  • DigDuggyDigDuggy Member RarePosts: 694

    kitarad said:

    Can the ordinary Russian do anything about their dear leader?



    yes enough together could

    Hats off to any company that sends a message that the invasion of another democratic free country is not OK

    Lets face it, Putin is testing the USA and the EU to see how far he can go, Putin wants eastern europe under his control and if he gets away with the ukraine invasion whats next, Poland Finland Germany, he wont stop with Ukraine, and the meantime China sits back and watches what happens they have thier own asperations to expand into the pacific
    They could, but you've got to remember that their news, internet, newspapers, etc show that the Ukrainians are the bad guys.  Also, you've gotta remember that most are affraid of the government.  These things are much easier said when you aren't under the bootheel of a dictator.

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  • BLNXBLNX Member UncommonPosts: 275
    Rungar said:

    achesoma said:

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    Once you know who the devil is , its all pretty much the same thing.
    Wait Harold is the devil?!
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