By the way, the issue is actually getting way worse. There are two upcoming male classes (Destroyer and Scouter), neither of which are mages to a ton of female ones.
And fuck this studio kindly for making the upcoming Gambit style card magician class female-only.
Yeah, I've been putting the game down at least until the summoner and that card class come out (Destroyer looks fun but I'd rather go back when a few more are in there an run through in a bigger play through).
I’ve seen that character in game and she looks like the first picture.
Not unlike every other MMO in the last 20 years. Most MMOs I've played have had some sort of skin tone shading and most look as bad or worse than this. New World, Fallout, DDO, and the list goes on and on. Honestly, the complaint posted above comes across rather thin, overly sensitive, and cringy.
But I do not think it's even real. I think that was some amateur using Paintshop. I've see that NPC in the US version and she looks like the initial pic...
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I’ve seen that character in game and she looks like the first picture.
Not unlike every other MMO in the last 20 years. Most MMOs I've played have had some sort of skin tone shading and most look as bad or worse than this. New World, Fallout, DDO, and the list goes on and on. Honestly, the complaint posted above comes across rather thin, overly sensitive, and cringy.
But I do not think it's even real. I think that was some amateur using Paintshop. I've see that NPC in the US version and she looks like the initial pic...
Gotcha, thanks for explaining. I haven't seen the NPC in this game so I totally take your word for it. My impression from the screenshot posted is that it didn't really look much worse than most of the MMOs I've seen in the past. It really made me think of DDO lol. Sorry DDO fans but the character models and skin textures are just hard to look at.
She's on a small island far out of the way... Ill try and sail there over the weekend and take a screenshot.
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I like playing as a guy because in real life I'm a dude, gender locked classes always turn me off no matter what the game is, I like immersing myself in the game feeling like this character would be what I would be in a game, me being a girl in a game when im a dude irl isn't my cup of tea
So play one of the other classes that are Dudes...
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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I like playing as a guy because in real life I'm a dude, gender locked classes always turn me off no matter what the game is, I like immersing myself in the game feeling like this character would be what I would be in a game, me being a girl in a game when im a dude irl isn't my cup of tea
So play one of the other classes that are Dudes...
The MMORPG genre is about roleplaying. If your mechanical roleplaying is intrinsically limited by your aesthetic/character roleplaying for arbitrary reasons not connected to the immersion of the story/world, that is a BAD thing. Why is this concept so hard to grasp?
I like playing as a guy because in real life I'm a dude, gender locked classes always turn me off no matter what the game is, I like immersing myself in the game feeling like this character would be what I would be in a game, me being a girl in a game when im a dude irl isn't my cup of tea
So play one of the other classes that are Dudes...
The MMORPG genre is about roleplaying. If your mechanical roleplaying is intrinsically limited by your aesthetic/character roleplaying for arbitrary reasons not connected to the immersion of the story/world, that is a BAD thing. Why is this concept so hard to grasp?
Not really. If I design a world where lets for the sake of arguing.. say.. Paladins are a Holy Order of males. Or The Coven is a magic order of females... Or Dwarves have developed a specific fighting style that makes then a "Guardian" in a game... or Race X is a psionic based race (and the only ones to use Psionics)
Why is that so hard to grasp from a Role Playing perspective?
I mean... why do I have to be the "special" person who insists on being the female Paladin, the Male Coven Member, the Human Guardian... or whatever. It's not MY world, its the world of the creators.
To me... playing a ROLE playing game means that you take a ROLE in a living breathing world... not that you can do anything you dream up. Sure, those oddball edge cases (The girl raised by the Holy Order, the baby male found and raised by the coven) might make for an interesting side story... that would ruin the setting if everyone did it.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
I like playing as a guy because in real life I'm a dude, gender locked classes always turn me off no matter what the game is, I like immersing myself in the game feeling like this character would be what I would be in a game, me being a girl in a game when im a dude irl isn't my cup of tea
So play one of the other classes that are Dudes...
The MMORPG genre is about roleplaying. If your mechanical roleplaying is intrinsically limited by your aesthetic/character roleplaying for arbitrary reasons not connected to the immersion of the story/world, that is a BAD thing. Why is this concept so hard to grasp?
Not really. If I design a world where lets for the sake of arguing.. say.. Paladins are a Holy Order of males. Or The Coven is a magic order of females... Or Dwarves have developed a specific fighting style that makes then a "Guardian" in a game... or Race X is a psionic based race (and the only ones to use Psionics)
Why is that so hard to grasp from a Role Playing perspective?
I mean... why do I have to be the "special" person who insists on being the female Paladin, the Male Coven Member, the Human Guardian... or whatever. It's not MY world, its the world of the creators.
To me... playing a ROLE playing game means that you take a ROLE in a living breathing world... not that you can do anything you dream up. Sure, those oddball edge cases (The girl raised by the Holy Order, the baby male found and raised by the coven) might make for an interesting side story... that would ruin the setting if everyone did it.
Reread what I said. For reasons not connected to the immersion of the story/world.
Not being able to be a male mage in the Wheel of Time makes sense because it's a major part of the world.
Not being able to be a male mage in *insert Korean MMO* is because the developers are lazy hacks. There is usually NO lore reason, and even if there were, a throwaway lore reason written to justify lazy hackery does not make up for bad game design.
I like playing as a guy because in real life I'm a dude, gender locked classes always turn me off no matter what the game is, I like immersing myself in the game feeling like this character would be what I would be in a game, me being a girl in a game when im a dude irl isn't my cup of tea
So play one of the other classes that are Dudes...
The MMORPG genre is about roleplaying. If your mechanical roleplaying is intrinsically limited by your aesthetic/character roleplaying for arbitrary reasons not connected to the immersion of the story/world, that is a BAD thing. Why is this concept so hard to grasp?
Not really. If I design a world where lets for the sake of arguing.. say.. Paladins are a Holy Order of males. Or The Coven is a magic order of females... Or Dwarves have developed a specific fighting style that makes then a "Guardian" in a game... or Race X is a psionic based race (and the only ones to use Psionics)
Why is that so hard to grasp from a Role Playing perspective?
I mean... why do I have to be the "special" person who insists on being the female Paladin, the Male Coven Member, the Human Guardian... or whatever. It's not MY world, its the world of the creators.
To me... playing a ROLE playing game means that you take a ROLE in a living breathing world... not that you can do anything you dream up. Sure, those oddball edge cases (The girl raised by the Holy Order, the baby male found and raised by the coven) might make for an interesting side story... that would ruin the setting if everyone did it.
Reread what I said. For reasons not connected to the immersion of the story/world.
Not being able to be a male mage in the Wheel of Time makes sense because it's a major part of the world.
Not being able to be a male mage in *insert Korean MMO* is because the developers are lazy hacks. There is usually NO lore reason, and even if there were, a throwaway lore reason written to justify lazy hackery does not make up for bad game design.
Your opinion about motivations is noted... maybe even correct frequently... but at the end of the day really those motivations do not matter. They made a world where all Bards are female (in Lost Ark). Sure I wanted to play a Bard... but instead I made a Paladin.
It's THEIR world I am playing in...
...and I want to play a ROLE in their world. Not my world. My world is kind of boring.
Just like I think it's silly to have hoverboards and mechs and laser guns in the same game where I swing the sword. My world would never have that... even my fantasy world would never have that. But I'm not playing in my world.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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I like playing as a guy because in real life I'm a dude, gender locked classes always turn me off no matter what the game is, I like immersing myself in the game feeling like this character would be what I would be in a game, me being a girl in a game when im a dude irl isn't my cup of tea
So play one of the other classes that are Dudes...
The MMORPG genre is about roleplaying. If your mechanical roleplaying is intrinsically limited by your aesthetic/character roleplaying for arbitrary reasons not connected to the immersion of the story/world, that is a BAD thing. Why is this concept so hard to grasp?
Not really. If I design a world where lets for the sake of arguing.. say.. Paladins are a Holy Order of males. Or The Coven is a magic order of females... Or Dwarves have developed a specific fighting style that makes then a "Guardian" in a game... or Race X is a psionic based race (and the only ones to use Psionics)
Why is that so hard to grasp from a Role Playing perspective?
I mean... why do I have to be the "special" person who insists on being the female Paladin, the Male Coven Member, the Human Guardian... or whatever. It's not MY world, its the world of the creators.
To me... playing a ROLE playing game means that you take a ROLE in a living breathing world... not that you can do anything you dream up. Sure, those oddball edge cases (The girl raised by the Holy Order, the baby male found and raised by the coven) might make for an interesting side story... that would ruin the setting if everyone did it.
Reread what I said. For reasons not connected to the immersion of the story/world.
Not being able to be a male mage in the Wheel of Time makes sense because it's a major part of the world.
Not being able to be a male mage in *insert Korean MMO* is because the developers are lazy hacks. There is usually NO lore reason, and even if there were, a throwaway lore reason written to justify lazy hackery does not make up for bad game design.
Surely you understand it's not because the devs are "lazy" or for lore reasons, they go with gender locked classes to save on development costs and get the game to market faster.
They just don't see the market of gamers who care about such being worth the expense of not gender locking classes.
I suspect (with no actual evidence) that most Asian gamers (their initial target audience) don't care very much that some classes are gender locked.
You do, that's fine, but no amount of complaining about it will change the situation, well not here on these forums.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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I like playing as a guy because in real life I'm a dude, gender locked classes always turn me off no matter what the game is, I like immersing myself in the game feeling like this character would be what I would be in a game, me being a girl in a game when im a dude irl isn't my cup of tea
So play one of the other classes that are Dudes...
The MMORPG genre is about roleplaying. If your mechanical roleplaying is intrinsically limited by your aesthetic/character roleplaying for arbitrary reasons not connected to the immersion of the story/world, that is a BAD thing. Why is this concept so hard to grasp?
Not really. If I design a world where lets for the sake of arguing.. say.. Paladins are a Holy Order of males. Or The Coven is a magic order of females... Or Dwarves have developed a specific fighting style that makes then a "Guardian" in a game... or Race X is a psionic based race (and the only ones to use Psionics)
Why is that so hard to grasp from a Role Playing perspective?
I mean... why do I have to be the "special" person who insists on being the female Paladin, the Male Coven Member, the Human Guardian... or whatever. It's not MY world, its the world of the creators.
To me... playing a ROLE playing game means that you take a ROLE in a living breathing world... not that you can do anything you dream up. Sure, those oddball edge cases (The girl raised by the Holy Order, the baby male found and raised by the coven) might make for an interesting side story... that would ruin the setting if everyone did it.
Reread what I said. For reasons not connected to the immersion of the story/world.
Not being able to be a male mage in the Wheel of Time makes sense because it's a major part of the world.
Not being able to be a male mage in *insert Korean MMO* is because the developers are lazy hacks. There is usually NO lore reason, and even if there were, a throwaway lore reason written to justify lazy hackery does not make up for bad game design.
Surely you understand it's not because the devs are "lazy" or for lore reasons, they go with gender locked classes to save on development costs and get the game to market faster.
They just don't see the market of gamers who care about such being worth the expense of not gender locking classes.
I suspect (with no actual evidence) that most Asian gamers (their initial target audience) don't care very much that some classes are gender locked.
You do, that's fine, but no amount of complaining about it will change the situation, well not here on these forums.
Call it what you will. Even your ascribed motivation describes a corner being cut. And as with all cut corners, it is one's prerogative to point it out, and reasonably decide to take issue. It's a flaw and people are trying to seek change as such.
I like playing as a guy because in real life I'm a dude, gender locked classes always turn me off no matter what the game is, I like immersing myself in the game feeling like this character would be what I would be in a game, me being a girl in a game when im a dude irl isn't my cup of tea
So play one of the other classes that are Dudes...
The MMORPG genre is about roleplaying. If your mechanical roleplaying is intrinsically limited by your aesthetic/character roleplaying for arbitrary reasons not connected to the immersion of the story/world, that is a BAD thing. Why is this concept so hard to grasp?
Not really. If I design a world where lets for the sake of arguing.. say.. Paladins are a Holy Order of males. Or The Coven is a magic order of females... Or Dwarves have developed a specific fighting style that makes then a "Guardian" in a game... or Race X is a psionic based race (and the only ones to use Psionics)
Why is that so hard to grasp from a Role Playing perspective?
I mean... why do I have to be the "special" person who insists on being the female Paladin, the Male Coven Member, the Human Guardian... or whatever. It's not MY world, its the world of the creators.
To me... playing a ROLE playing game means that you take a ROLE in a living breathing world... not that you can do anything you dream up. Sure, those oddball edge cases (The girl raised by the Holy Order, the baby male found and raised by the coven) might make for an interesting side story... that would ruin the setting if everyone did it.
Reread what I said. For reasons not connected to the immersion of the story/world.
Not being able to be a male mage in the Wheel of Time makes sense because it's a major part of the world.
Not being able to be a male mage in *insert Korean MMO* is because the developers are lazy hacks. There is usually NO lore reason, and even if there were, a throwaway lore reason written to justify lazy hackery does not make up for bad game design.
Surely you understand it's not because the devs are "lazy" or for lore reasons, they go with gender locked classes to save on development costs and get the game to market faster.
They just don't see the market of gamers who care about such being worth the expense of not gender locking classes.
I suspect (with no actual evidence) that most Asian gamers (their initial target audience) don't care very much that some classes are gender locked.
You do, that's fine, but no amount of complaining about it will change the situation, well not here on these forums.
Call it what you will. Even your ascribed motivation describes a corner being cut. And as with all cut corners, it is one's prerogative to point it out, and reasonably decide to take issue. It's a flaw and people are trying to seek change as such.
It's also one's prerogative to point out when others are digging their own holes.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I like playing as a guy because in real life I'm a dude, gender locked classes always turn me off no matter what the game is, I like immersing myself in the game feeling like this character would be what I would be in a game, me being a girl in a game when im a dude irl isn't my cup of tea
So play one of the other classes that are Dudes...
The MMORPG genre is about roleplaying. If your mechanical roleplaying is intrinsically limited by your aesthetic/character roleplaying for arbitrary reasons not connected to the immersion of the story/world, that is a BAD thing. Why is this concept so hard to grasp?
Not really. If I design a world where lets for the sake of arguing.. say.. Paladins are a Holy Order of males. Or The Coven is a magic order of females... Or Dwarves have developed a specific fighting style that makes then a "Guardian" in a game... or Race X is a psionic based race (and the only ones to use Psionics)
Why is that so hard to grasp from a Role Playing perspective?
I mean... why do I have to be the "special" person who insists on being the female Paladin, the Male Coven Member, the Human Guardian... or whatever. It's not MY world, its the world of the creators.
To me... playing a ROLE playing game means that you take a ROLE in a living breathing world... not that you can do anything you dream up. Sure, those oddball edge cases (The girl raised by the Holy Order, the baby male found and raised by the coven) might make for an interesting side story... that would ruin the setting if everyone did it.
Reread what I said. For reasons not connected to the immersion of the story/world.
Not being able to be a male mage in the Wheel of Time makes sense because it's a major part of the world.
Not being able to be a male mage in *insert Korean MMO* is because the developers are lazy hacks. There is usually NO lore reason, and even if there were, a throwaway lore reason written to justify lazy hackery does not make up for bad game design.
Surely you understand it's not because the devs are "lazy" or for lore reasons, they go with gender locked classes to save on development costs and get the game to market faster.
They just don't see the market of gamers who care about such being worth the expense of not gender locking classes.
I suspect (with no actual evidence) that most Asian gamers (their initial target audience) don't care very much that some classes are gender locked.
You do, that's fine, but no amount of complaining about it will change the situation, well not here on these forums.
Call it what you will. Even your ascribed motivation describes a corner being cut. And as with all cut corners, it is one's prerogative to point it out, and reasonably decide to take issue. It's a flaw and people are trying to seek change as such.
It's also one's prerogative to point out when others are digging their own holes.
I like playing as a guy because in real life I'm a dude, gender locked classes always turn me off no matter what the game is, I like immersing myself in the game feeling like this character would be what I would be in a game, me being a girl in a game when im a dude irl isn't my cup of tea
So play one of the other classes that are Dudes...
The MMORPG genre is about roleplaying. If your mechanical roleplaying is intrinsically limited by your aesthetic/character roleplaying for arbitrary reasons not connected to the immersion of the story/world, that is a BAD thing. Why is this concept so hard to grasp?
Not really. If I design a world where lets for the sake of arguing.. say.. Paladins are a Holy Order of males. Or The Coven is a magic order of females... Or Dwarves have developed a specific fighting style that makes then a "Guardian" in a game... or Race X is a psionic based race (and the only ones to use Psionics)
Why is that so hard to grasp from a Role Playing perspective?
I mean... why do I have to be the "special" person who insists on being the female Paladin, the Male Coven Member, the Human Guardian... or whatever. It's not MY world, its the world of the creators.
To me... playing a ROLE playing game means that you take a ROLE in a living breathing world... not that you can do anything you dream up. Sure, those oddball edge cases (The girl raised by the Holy Order, the baby male found and raised by the coven) might make for an interesting side story... that would ruin the setting if everyone did it.
Reread what I said. For reasons not connected to the immersion of the story/world.
Not being able to be a male mage in the Wheel of Time makes sense because it's a major part of the world.
Not being able to be a male mage in *insert Korean MMO* is because the developers are lazy hacks. There is usually NO lore reason, and even if there were, a throwaway lore reason written to justify lazy hackery does not make up for bad game design.
Surely you understand it's not because the devs are "lazy" or for lore reasons, they go with gender locked classes to save on development costs and get the game to market faster.
They just don't see the market of gamers who care about such being worth the expense of not gender locking classes.
I suspect (with no actual evidence) that most Asian gamers (their initial target audience) don't care very much that some classes are gender locked.
You do, that's fine, but no amount of complaining about it will change the situation, well not here on these forums.
I remember some really smart guy saying the same thing...
I’ve seen that character in game and she looks like the first picture.
Not unlike every other MMO in the last 20 years. Most MMOs I've played have had some sort of skin tone shading and most look as bad or worse than this. New World, Fallout, DDO, and the list goes on and on. Honestly, the complaint posted above comes across rather thin, overly sensitive, and cringy.
But I do not think it's even real. I think that was some amateur using Paintshop. I've see that NPC in the US version and she looks like the initial pic...
Gotcha, thanks for explaining. I haven't seen the NPC in this game so I totally take your word for it. My impression from the screenshot posted is that it didn't really look much worse than most of the MMOs I've seen in the past. It really made me think of DDO lol. Sorry DDO fans but the character models and skin textures are just hard to look at.
As a DDO fan.. I agree with you. It's an old game, and it looks it.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
I like playing as a guy because in real life I'm a dude, gender locked classes always turn me off no matter what the game is, I like immersing myself in the game feeling like this character would be what I would be in a game, me being a girl in a game when im a dude irl isn't my cup of tea
So play one of the other classes that are Dudes...
Or just not play the game lol
If a class is gender restricted and I need to play as a girl just to be the class I want I'm no longer doing what I wish I'm catering to someone elses wishes on what I personally want to do in a game I play, I find such things silly, why must I change how and why I want to play as based on what a dev wants me to do based on their logic, I've done enough catering to devs for a life time I'm kinda over it, If can't immerse myself by playing how I want to play even something as little as gender control I just won't play, in the end I'll do them a service, they wont be hearing me bitch about said game and they can keep forcing others to play how they want win win
Yes. If you feel very strongly that you MUST play only 1 particular class and it MUST be a particular sex, then you should skip a game that has gender locked your class...
As I said... I find it silly to have laser guns, mechs, kung-fu tournaments, swords, pirates, and aliens in the same game... but I play it because it is THEIR world. If I found it too off putting I would skip it.
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I like playing as a guy because in real life I'm a dude, gender locked classes always turn me off no matter what the game is, I like immersing myself in the game feeling like this character would be what I would be in a game, me being a girl in a game when im a dude irl isn't my cup of tea
So play one of the other classes that are Dudes...
Or just not play the game lol
If a class is gender restricted and I need to play as a girl just to be the class I want I'm no longer doing what I wish I'm catering to someone elses wishes on what I personally want to do in a game I play, I find such things silly, why must I change how and why I want to play as based on what a dev wants me to do based on their logic, I've done enough catering to devs for a life time I'm kinda over it, If can't immerse myself by playing how I want to play even something as little as gender control I just won't play, in the end I'll do them a service, they wont be hearing me bitch about said game and they can keep forcing others to play how they want win win
Yes. If you feel very strongly that you MUST play only 1 particular class and it MUST be a particular sex, then you should skip a game that has gender locked your class...
As I said... I find it silly to have laser guns, mechs, kung-fu tournaments, swords, pirates, and aliens in the same game... but I play it because it is THEIR world. If I found it too off putting I would skip it.
But what they shouldn't do is whine about it everywhere, when it's clearly their decision and personal problem.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I like playing as a guy because in real life I'm a dude, gender locked classes always turn me off no matter what the game is, I like immersing myself in the game feeling like this character would be what I would be in a game, me being a girl in a game when im a dude irl isn't my cup of tea
So play one of the other classes that are Dudes...
Or just not play the game lol
If a class is gender restricted and I need to play as a girl just to be the class I want I'm no longer doing what I wish I'm catering to someone elses wishes on what I personally want to do in a game I play, I find such things silly, why must I change how and why I want to play as based on what a dev wants me to do based on their logic, I've done enough catering to devs for a life time I'm kinda over it, If can't immerse myself by playing how I want to play even something as little as gender control I just won't play, in the end I'll do them a service, they wont be hearing me bitch about said game and they can keep forcing others to play how they want win win
Yes. If you feel very strongly that you MUST play only 1 particular class and it MUST be a particular sex, then you should skip a game that has gender locked your class...
As I said... I find it silly to have laser guns, mechs, kung-fu tournaments, swords, pirates, and aliens in the same game... but I play it because it is THEIR world. If I found it too off putting I would skip it.
But what they shouldn't do is whine about it everywhere, when it's clearly their decision and personal problem.
Or, you know, maybe you're the problem. Maybe you, who do not mind the issue, have no business telling others how they should feel. Maybe they *should* voice their opinions to enact positive change, because it does lead to responses, like the one that started this thread to begin with. Whether they actually adequately follow through remains to be seen, but the response is worth *something.*
And it's not like the issue doesn't predate the game's western launch. They've been unlocking classes per posts years ago.
I like playing as a guy because in real life I'm a dude, gender locked classes always turn me off no matter what the game is, I like immersing myself in the game feeling like this character would be what I would be in a game, me being a girl in a game when im a dude irl isn't my cup of tea
So play one of the other classes that are Dudes...
Or just not play the game lol
If a class is gender restricted and I need to play as a girl just to be the class I want I'm no longer doing what I wish I'm catering to someone elses wishes on what I personally want to do in a game I play, I find such things silly, why must I change how and why I want to play as based on what a dev wants me to do based on their logic, I've done enough catering to devs for a life time I'm kinda over it, If can't immerse myself by playing how I want to play even something as little as gender control I just won't play, in the end I'll do them a service, they wont be hearing me bitch about said game and they can keep forcing others to play how they want win win
Yes. If you feel very strongly that you MUST play only 1 particular class and it MUST be a particular sex, then you should skip a game that has gender locked your class...
As I said... I find it silly to have laser guns, mechs, kung-fu tournaments, swords, pirates, and aliens in the same game... but I play it because it is THEIR world. If I found it too off putting I would skip it.
But what they shouldn't do is whine about it everywhere, when it's clearly their decision and personal problem.
I like playing as a guy because in real life I'm a dude, gender locked classes always turn me off no matter what the game is, I like immersing myself in the game feeling like this character would be what I would be in a game, me being a girl in a game when im a dude irl isn't my cup of tea
So play one of the other classes that are Dudes...
Or just not play the game lol
If a class is gender restricted and I need to play as a girl just to be the class I want I'm no longer doing what I wish I'm catering to someone elses wishes on what I personally want to do in a game I play, I find such things silly, why must I change how and why I want to play as based on what a dev wants me to do based on their logic, I've done enough catering to devs for a life time I'm kinda over it, If can't immerse myself by playing how I want to play even something as little as gender control I just won't play, in the end I'll do them a service, they wont be hearing me bitch about said game and they can keep forcing others to play how they want win win
Yes. If you feel very strongly that you MUST play only 1 particular class and it MUST be a particular sex, then you should skip a game that has gender locked your class...
As I said... I find it silly to have laser guns, mechs, kung-fu tournaments, swords, pirates, and aliens in the same game... but I play it because it is THEIR world. If I found it too off putting I would skip it.
But what they shouldn't do is whine about it everywhere, when it's clearly their decision and personal problem.
Or, you know, maybe you're the problem. Maybe you, who do not mind the issue, have no business telling others how they should feel. Maybe they *should* voice their opinions to enact positive change, because it does lead to responses, like the one that started this thread to begin with. Whether they actually adequately follow through remains to be seen, but the response is worth *something.*
And it's not like the issue doesn't predate the game's western launch. They've been unlocking classes per posts years ago.
I only play guys in MMORPG's but if the class I wanted to play was female only that would not be a problem unless I was going into a proper roleplaying guild, then I would select my next favourite class that was a guy. That would not be the end of the world.
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Yeah, I've been putting the game down at least until the summoner and that card class come out (Destroyer looks fun but I'd rather go back when a few more are in there an run through in a bigger play through).
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Why is that so hard to grasp from a Role Playing perspective?
I mean... why do I have to be the "special" person who insists on being the female Paladin, the Male Coven Member, the Human Guardian... or whatever. It's not MY world, its the world of the creators.
To me... playing a ROLE playing game means that you take a ROLE in a living breathing world... not that you can do anything you dream up. Sure, those oddball edge cases (The girl raised by the Holy Order, the baby male found and raised by the coven) might make for an interesting side story... that would ruin the setting if everyone did it.
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Not being able to be a male mage in the Wheel of Time makes sense because it's a major part of the world.
Not being able to be a male mage in *insert Korean MMO* is because the developers are lazy hacks. There is usually NO lore reason, and even if there were, a throwaway lore reason written to justify lazy hackery does not make up for bad game design.
It's THEIR world I am playing in...
...and I want to play a ROLE in their world. Not my world. My world is kind of boring.
Just like I think it's silly to have hoverboards and mechs and laser guns in the same game where I swing the sword. My world would never have that... even my fantasy world would never have that. But I'm not playing in my world.
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They just don't see the market of gamers who care about such being worth the expense of not gender locking classes.
I suspect (with no actual evidence) that most Asian gamers (their initial target audience) don't care very much that some classes are gender locked.
You do, that's fine, but no amount of complaining about it will change the situation, well not here on these forums.
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As I said... I find it silly to have laser guns, mechs, kung-fu tournaments, swords, pirates, and aliens in the same game... but I play it because it is THEIR world. If I found it too off putting I would skip it.
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And it's not like the issue doesn't predate the game's western launch. They've been unlocking classes per posts years ago.