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Amazon and Smilegate RPG Will Revise Lost Ark Content Roadmap to Better Reflect and Support Progress

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edited March 2022 in News & Features Discussion

imageAmazon and Smilegate RPG Will Revise Lost Ark Content Roadmap to Better Reflect and Support Progression | MMORPG.com

Smilegate RPG and Amazon Games released a joint community update addressing Lost Ark progression, lessons from the Western launch so far, and plans for a revised content roadmap.

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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,203
    Its an Alt Game in an Alt World ..

    This is literally the first game where I need to make alts in order to "boost up" my main in this manner. And not 1 alt , but .. all of them!

    I'm still kinda playing it, but man .. all I do is : Chaos Dungeon x8 ( 3 alts ), Guardian Bosses, and that's almost it. This..rotation sucks.

    Since I got in T3, I've never left "Lai Lai" Island. All I do with my main is sit there and spam Chaos and Guardian Bosses. The world is big, the Sea is amazing, yet .. there is no content there to be done.

    Oh well. I'm interested in Lancer but .. at this point the game is meh for me.
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  • TruvidiennTruvidienn Member UncommonPosts: 347
    I quit the game a long time ago.. Didn't like going from the Demon theme to some core punk style then hitting a brick wall with a 302 or 320 item level wall? My friends are enjoying it but it's not for me... However the Destroyer class from the videos look fun.
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,057
    edited March 2022


    I quit the game a long time ago.. Didn't like going from the Demon theme to some core punk style then hitting a brick wall with a 302 or 320 item level wall? My friends are enjoying it but it's not for me... However the Destroyer class from the videos look fun.



    yeah there's no 302(or 320) wall. But there is a boring daily grind to boost ilevel.

    Look into honing - there  is an ingame guide to get above 302
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  • ObligatoryFObligatoryF Member UncommonPosts: 37

    IceAge said:

    Its an Alt Game in an Alt World ..



    This is literally the first game where I need to make alts in order to "boost up" my main in this manner. And not 1 alt , but .. all of them!



    I'm still kinda playing it, but man .. all I do is : Chaos Dungeon x8 ( 3 alts ), Guardian Bosses, and that's almost it. This..rotation sucks.



    Since I got in T3, I've never left "Lai Lai" Island. All I do with my main is sit there and spam Chaos and Guardian Bosses. The world is big, the Sea is amazing, yet .. there is no content there to be done.



    Oh well. I'm interested in Lancer but .. at this point the game is meh for me.



    Except no one actually said you "need" to make alts to rush. This is the most common misconception the game has. Who is forcing you to go to T3 ASAP? It'd be yourself.

    People will always find a reason to complain, but there are the occasional people who are willing to put their energy into finding something to do instead, such as the occasional person loving the game for lore reasons, soaking up exploring the world and doing sub quests. Or those mokoko seed hunters.

    Almost all end-game in any game is the same repetitive dungeon crawl. It's just a matter of whether that crawl has any "sense of progression" in mob/boss killing efficiency.
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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,203

    IceAge said:

    Its an Alt Game in an Alt World ..



    This is literally the first game where I need to make alts in order to "boost up" my main in this manner. And not 1 alt , but .. all of them!



    I'm still kinda playing it, but man .. all I do is : Chaos Dungeon x8 ( 3 alts ), Guardian Bosses, and that's almost it. This..rotation sucks.



    Since I got in T3, I've never left "Lai Lai" Island. All I do with my main is sit there and spam Chaos and Guardian Bosses. The world is big, the Sea is amazing, yet .. there is no content there to be done.



    Oh well. I'm interested in Lancer but .. at this point the game is meh for me.



    Except no one actually said you "need" to make alts to rush. This is the most common misconception the game has. Who is forcing you to go to T3 ASAP? It'd be yourself.

    People will always find a reason to complain, but there are the occasional people who are willing to put their energy into finding something to do instead, such as the occasional person loving the game for lore reasons, soaking up exploring the world and doing sub quests. Or those mokoko seed hunters.

    Almost all end-game in any game is the same repetitive dungeon crawl. It's just a matter of whether that crawl has any "sense of progression" in mob/boss killing efficiency.
    No one is forcing me to go to T3 ASAP. I'm ...just there, by playing the game. Did most of the Islands ( at least the ones for T1 and T2 mats ) and whatever else there was, except hunting mokoko's ( yea that's .. side side side content from my pov ). 

    The problem is how do we do repetitive end game content. Sitting in the "town" since 1 week ago in T3 and all I do is 2 things, chaos and bosses which are not even hard, is brainless grind. 

    And on top of that, you do the above for ...30% then 15% chance ( boosted to an additional max 20% with other mats ) to add 1 to your weapon/armors. That's it. 

    I mean the game is not that bad , but in the long run I'm not seeing it shine or hold interest for many gamers. It's a game where you come back for each major update, play it for few weeks, and then pause it until the next major update arrive. Nothing wrong with that, is just I was...expecting more!


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  • theGnadetheGnade Member UncommonPosts: 147
    I find gearing up pretty boring. Only time it is fun is when you beat content first time, because then you have new armor set to earn. But you earn that basically with one week and after that whole game is just boring braindead gem farming. In WoW it takes weeks if not month to get set and even if you beat boss once, that doesn't mean it wont provide challenge next week. And even when boss doesn't provide challenge, leaders boards do. So I find Lost Ark content pretty much easy content. Well not as easy as New Worlds, but still compared to WoW the replayability of Lost Ark is pretty boring,
  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,675
    IceAge said:

    IceAge said:

    Its an Alt Game in an Alt World ..



    This is literally the first game where I need to make alts in order to "boost up" my main in this manner. And not 1 alt , but .. all of them!



    I'm still kinda playing it, but man .. all I do is : Chaos Dungeon x8 ( 3 alts ), Guardian Bosses, and that's almost it. This..rotation sucks.



    Since I got in T3, I've never left "Lai Lai" Island. All I do with my main is sit there and spam Chaos and Guardian Bosses. The world is big, the Sea is amazing, yet .. there is no content there to be done.



    Oh well. I'm interested in Lancer but .. at this point the game is meh for me.



    Except no one actually said you "need" to make alts to rush. This is the most common misconception the game has. Who is forcing you to go to T3 ASAP? It'd be yourself.

    People will always find a reason to complain, but there are the occasional people who are willing to put their energy into finding something to do instead, such as the occasional person loving the game for lore reasons, soaking up exploring the world and doing sub quests. Or those mokoko seed hunters.

    Almost all end-game in any game is the same repetitive dungeon crawl. It's just a matter of whether that crawl has any "sense of progression" in mob/boss killing efficiency.
    No one is forcing me to go to T3 ASAP. I'm ...just there, by playing the game. Did most of the Islands ( at least the ones for T1 and T2 mats ) and whatever else there was, except hunting mokoko's ( yea that's .. side side side content from my pov ). 

    The problem is how do we do repetitive end game content. Sitting in the "town" since 1 week ago in T3 and all I do is 2 things, chaos and bosses which are not even hard, is brainless grind. 

    And on top of that, you do the above for ...30% then 15% chance ( boosted to an additional max 20% with other mats ) to add 1 to your weapon/armors. That's it. 

    I mean the game is not that bad , but in the long run I'm not seeing it shine or hold interest for many gamers. It's a game where you come back for each major update, play it for few weeks, and then pause it until the next major update arrive. Nothing wrong with that, is just I was...expecting more!



    Unfortunately, many korean games have a similar progression system with alt play boosting progression (BDO, Archeage, Blade and Soul are some I can think of). These are really just those types of games you really have to like whatever 2-3 things you're playing since you'll probably be playing them the most if you want to do other things in the long run. Pretty much why I'm waiting on summoner and that cardmage until I try to get into the game a bit more.
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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,057
    edited March 2022
    I just hit 1300 today(the reset let me reach 1325 as well).  I think I may be done.  The gear progression is horrible compared with actual ARPGs. 


    I may stick it out through the event to grab mats in case I return.
    Kyleran
  • WordsworthWordsworth Member UncommonPosts: 173
    Just got to 1013 today.  Need two more pieces to get 1020.  I've been selling most of my tradable mats for gold since I'd rather resource hoard now and have the gold on-hand when the mats tank over time.  Just starting to get my alts to T2 since T1 mats have totally tanks, rendering it pointless to sell.

    I definitely feel the tedium.  It's mostly when I don't have enough time.  I sometimes wish I didn't feel like I would fall behind if I skipped daily chaos or guardian raids.  I have a lot of fun just exploring islands when I have enough time after all the 'chores'.
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  • KratierKratier Member RarePosts: 626
    most korean mmos require alts, like BDO.
    and most of you all will be , or already have been filtered. like how everyone quit because they couldnt do basic mechanics for guardian raids

    personally the only thing giving me burn out for this game is amazon's incompetence. its like the third patch now, and the timers are all still broken due to DST. its still not fixed. Its been like 4 days and they can't even fix the fucking clock in the game right now. forget everything else, the entire game revolves around events based on the clock times. They didn't even test it again, because even the thing they gave compensation for, is still not fixed, the racing minigame.

    its very draining ,
  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,203
    I just hit 1300 today(the reset let me reach 1325 as well).  I think I may be done.  The gear progression is horrible compared with actual ARPGs. 


    I may stick it out through the event to grab mats in case I return.
    Wait till you try to go to 1340, then 1350, etc! :D 

    At some point, you will grind 1 week to be able to afford a +1 to weapon or armor. +1 with a big chance of failing of course..unless you P2W.

    What we had until 1325 it's .. NOTHING, lol. 

    And don't forget about alts. You will want them in T2 and then T3. Its a bit easier vs your main in T1/T2, but still a brainless grind, doing the same chaos dungeons and bosses and nothing else.

    I think i'll go back to TBC. I kinda regret "leaving" it .. 

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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,619
    edited March 2022
    I quit the game a long time ago.. Didn't like going from the Demon theme to some core punk style then hitting a brick wall with a 302 or 320 item level wall? My friends are enjoying it but it's not for me... However the Destroyer class from the videos look fun.

    lol what?

    There is no 302 wall just finish the main story line north vern and you get a full set of 302 gear and if you cant wait just go in the vern lvl 1 chaos dungeon which can be soloed to get your 302 gear...it's super easy to get....I swear there some peeps here that dunno wtf they are talking about.

    I agree though the t3 grind doesn't look interesting.  I am enjoying it but I am not making getting to T3 my main objective.
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  • Phoenix_HawkPhoenix_Hawk Member UncommonPosts: 298

    Kratier said:

    personally the only thing giving me burn out for this game is amazon's incompetence. its like the third patch now, and the timers are all still broken due to DST.


    Most of the world, and even some of North America doesn't use daylight savings time, so getting timers to work for the few areas that do, while still not screwing things of for the most of the world that doesn't, for a timers system that wasn't designed for such things is going to be more hassle than you seem to think.

    Honestly, I wish DST would just get thrown in the trash where it belongs. The idea of it was to give farmers more daylight time to work in, back when that was a relevant need, which it certainly isn't anymore, so all it is now, is a pointless hassle.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,064
    Torval said:

    Kratier said:

    personally the only thing giving me burn out for this game is amazon's incompetence. its like the third patch now, and the timers are all still broken due to DST.


    Most of the world, and even some of North America doesn't use daylight savings time, so getting timers to work for the few areas that do, while still not screwing things of for the most of the world that doesn't, for a timers system that wasn't designed for such things is going to be more hassle than you seem to think.

    Honestly, I wish DST would just get thrown in the trash where it belongs. The idea of it was to give farmers more daylight time to work in, back when that was a relevant need, which it certainly isn't anymore, so all it is now, is a pointless hassle.

    The US is in the process of moving to DST permanently. Half of our Congress has unanimously approved it and it is heading to the other half (House) and then to the president to sign. This is planned to go down in spring 2023 so just another year of this.
    As a resident of the "Sunshine" state the DST change is a QOL improvement I am firmly in support of.


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  • Veexer_NuiVeexer_Nui Member UncommonPosts: 268
    It's lost 60% of it's playerbase already.

    From 1.3m players to 500k.

    This is a faster drop than New World that lost 99% of it's player base from 1.1m to 2k (LOL)

    People fell for the twitch advertising scam, amazon owns Lost Ark and Twitch so pumped it with free ads/drops.

    People also fail to realize that this game has been out for 5 years in Korea and 2 years in Russia, when we told you it was pay 2 win, we know what we are talking about.

    I can make a new account, and with $2k reach ilvl 1376 in a single day, how long have you all been playing?

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  • romeosummers1980romeosummers1980 Newbie CommonPosts: 3


    It's lost 60% of it's playerbase already.



    From 1.3m players to 500k.



    This is a faster drop than New World that lost 99% of it's player base from 1.1m to 2k (LOL)



    People fell for the twitch advertising scam, amazon owns Lost Ark and Twitch so pumped it with free ads/drops.



    People also fail to realize that this game has been out for 5 years in Korea and 2 years in Russia, when we told you it was pay 2 win, we know what we are talking about.



    I can make a new account, and with $2k reach ilvl 1376 in a single day, how long have you all been playing?



    So what exactly are you winning for spending $2k and reaching 1376 in a day? Other than losing $2k to inflate your ego?
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,064


    It's lost 60% of it's playerbase already.



    From 1.3m players to 500k.



    This is a faster drop than New World that lost 99% of it's player base from 1.1m to 2k (LOL)



    People fell for the twitch advertising scam, amazon owns Lost Ark and Twitch so pumped it with free ads/drops.



    People also fail to realize that this game has been out for 5 years in Korea and 2 years in Russia, when we told you it was pay 2 win, we know what we are talking about.



    I can make a new account, and with $2k reach ilvl 1376 in a single day, how long have you all been playing?



    So what exactly are you winning for spending $2k and reaching 1376 in a day? Other than losing $2k to inflate your ego?
    Definitely a candidate for one of my favorite Reddit subs.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/WinStupidPrizes?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,445
    edited March 2022






    It's lost 60% of it's playerbase already.





    From 1.3m players to 500k.





    This is a faster drop than New World that lost 99% of it's player base from 1.1m to 2k (LOL)





    People fell for the twitch advertising scam, amazon owns Lost Ark and Twitch so pumped it with free ads/drops.





    People also fail to realize that this game has been out for 5 years in Korea and 2 years in Russia, when we told you it was pay 2 win, we know what we are talking about.





    I can make a new account, and with $2k reach ilvl 1376 in a single day, how long have you all been playing?






    So what exactly are you winning for spending $2k and reaching 1376 in a day? Other than losing $2k to inflate your ego?


    Welcome to the forums! :)
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