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Zenith: The Last City Developer Ramen VR Gets New $35M Funding Round and Looks Toward Major Growth |

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited March 2022 in News & Features Discussion

imageZenith: The Last City Developer Ramen VR Gets New $35M Funding Round and Looks Toward Major Growth | MMORPG.com

Ramen VR has landed a new $35m investment that will grow Zenith: The Last City, doubling the studio size and expanding the game into cross-platform interconnected experiences.

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  • ShutaraShutara Member UncommonPosts: 146
    tl;dr
    they will likely push most of the $$$ to side-projects and Zenith will be of course evolving, but in a slower pace than initial announcement might suggest. I really don't get it why they want to branch out to mobile/desktop so early on, not having anything special to offer aside from a barebones VR mmo.
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  • LackingMMOLackingMMO Member RarePosts: 664
    They need more classes, housing and actually something to make guilds worthwhile. Group dungeons might be a huge help as well. Hopefully funds are spent wisely because I want to be a damn cyberninja!
    ultimateduckUngood[Deleted User]
  • ultimateduckultimateduck Member EpicPosts: 1,309

    Shutara said:

    tl;dr

    they will likely push most of the $$$ to side-projects and Zenith will be of course evolving, but in a slower pace than initial announcement might suggest. I really don't get it why they want to branch out to mobile/desktop so early on, not having anything special to offer aside from a barebones VR mmo.



    They literally said the exact opposite. I've I ever gotten the impression from the devs that they want anything other than Zenith being a great, go to MMO for VR.



    LackingMMO said:

    They need more classes, housing and actually something to make guilds worthwhile. Group dungeons might be a huge help as well. Hopefully funds are spent wisely because I want to be a damn cyberninja!



    Agreed and I think Ramen knows this. It seems to be what they are focusing most of their attention on.
    Ungood
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,060
    This is what happens when your product idea shows it has legs, (has potential to make big money) investors flock to fund it.

    Contrast with indie MMORPG efforts based on aging mechanics, (and limited earning potential) they can't get investors to toss them a bone.
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  • giantessfangiantessfan Member UncommonPosts: 185
    Waiting for the PSVR2 but when i get one will def pick this up
    ultimateduck
  • HazenXIIIHazenXIII Member UncommonPosts: 163
    There are a lot of people dogging the game for some reason (especially on the Steam forums), but I think it's got amazing potential. I've already gotten my money's worth out of it, but I'm excited to see where they go. The devs seem like they're very passionate about the game.

    I wish Project Gorgon would get that kind of funding lol
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,178
    I think I asked this before and forgive me if I have and the question been answered (blame it on my advancing years) whether this can possibly be played without a VR device.

  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,990
    kitarad said:
    I think I asked this before and forgive me if I have and the question been answered (blame it on my advancing years) whether this can possibly be played without a VR device.
    It needs VR.

    Steam shows a big warning when a game requires VR device, and has also info what devices and play areas are supported.
    Look:  https://store.steampowered.com/app/1403370/Zenith_The_Last_City/
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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,990
    edited March 2022
    HazenXIII said:
    There are a lot of people dogging the game for some reason (especially on the Steam forums), but I think it's got amazing potential. I've already gotten my money's worth out of it, but I'm excited to see where they go. The devs seem like they're very passionate about the game.

    I wish Project Gorgon would get that kind of funding lol
    To me it looks like the people dogging it are right: The game has potential, but you can't play potential that the devs haven't managed to realize.

    Maybe a couple of years from now on we've got a good VR MMO, but right now Zenith is just a few hours fun and then it starts lacking content. At the moment 24 hour peak on Steamcharts is less than 200 players. It only counts Steam's players, but still. Even most of those who played it and liked it just put it on hold because the potential hasn't been realized and there just isn't enough to keep you playing.
    TheDalaiBomba
     
  • TheDalaiBombaTheDalaiBomba Member EpicPosts: 1,493
    Vrika said:
    HazenXIII said:
    There are a lot of people dogging the game for some reason (especially on the Steam forums), but I think it's got amazing potential. I've already gotten my money's worth out of it, but I'm excited to see where they go. The devs seem like they're very passionate about the game.

    I wish Project Gorgon would get that kind of funding lol
    To me it looks like the people dogging it are right: The game has potential, but you can't play potential that the devs haven't managed to realize.

    Maybe a couple of years from now on we've got a good VR MMO, but right now Zenith is just a few hours fun and then it starts lacking content. At the moment 24 hour peak on Steamcharts is less than 200 players. It only counts Steam's players, but still. Even most of those who played it and liked it just put it on hold because the potential hasn't been realized and there just isn't enough to keep you playing.
    It has always seemed like very few VR titles can include the depth required to match titles built for other platforms.  Many of those that do seem to be VR ports of titles originally built for other platforms.

    I really feel like it's VR's Achilles heel.
    Kyleranultimateduck
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Vrika said:
    HazenXIII said:
    There are a lot of people dogging the game for some reason (especially on the Steam forums), but I think it's got amazing potential. I've already gotten my money's worth out of it, but I'm excited to see where they go. The devs seem like they're very passionate about the game.

    I wish Project Gorgon would get that kind of funding lol
    To me it looks like the people dogging it are right: The game has potential, but you can't play potential that the devs haven't managed to realize.

    Maybe a couple of years from now on we've got a good VR MMO, but right now Zenith is just a few hours fun and then it starts lacking content. At the moment 24 hour peak on Steamcharts is less than 200 players. It only counts Steam's players, but still. Even most of those who played it and liked it just put it on hold because the potential hasn't been realized and there just isn't enough to keep you playing.
    Eh, I have heard many people say the same thing about MMO in general, that it never has enough content.

    In fact, people cried that EQ lacked content when it first launched.

    New game, new company, new platform, looking forward to seeing where this might go. I am excited for the future, even if this becomes some UO or Project99, of the past, something people will look back on with rose colored goggles, talking about the good old days of early VR MMO's.

    For me, I am glad this happening.
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  • ultimateduckultimateduck Member EpicPosts: 1,309
    TheDalaiBomba said:
    Vrika said:
    HazenXIII said:
    There are a lot of people dogging the game for some reason (especially on the Steam forums), but I think it's got amazing potential. I've already gotten my money's worth out of it, but I'm excited to see where they go. The devs seem like they're very passionate about the game.

    I wish Project Gorgon would get that kind of funding lol
    To me it looks like the people dogging it are right: The game has potential, but you can't play potential that the devs haven't managed to realize.

    Maybe a couple of years from now on we've got a good VR MMO, but right now Zenith is just a few hours fun and then it starts lacking content. At the moment 24 hour peak on Steamcharts is less than 200 players. It only counts Steam's players, but still. Even most of those who played it and liked it just put it on hold because the potential hasn't been realized and there just isn't enough to keep you playing.
    It has always seemed like very few VR titles can include the depth required to match titles built for other platforms.  Many of those that do seem to be VR ports of titles originally built for other platforms.

    I really feel like it's VR's Achilles heel.
    It's because of the duration of time it takes to make a good game with depth. VR popularity has been, at most, 5 years but in reality, probably closer to 3 years.

    Right now, developers are trying to push out titles as fast as possible to see the market potential. Clearly it's there but the games that can be made in such a short timeframe are going to be on the shallow side.

    The only games that have good depth are flat screen games made VR capable, like No Mans Sky, Elite Dangerous and Skyrim.
    TheDalaiBomba
  • F0urTw3ntyF0urTw3nty Member UncommonPosts: 27
    edited March 2022

    Vrika said:


    HazenXIII said:





    l


    but right now Zenith is just a few hours fun and then it starts lacking content. At the moment 24 hour peak on Steamcharts is less than 200 players. It only counts Steam's players, but still.



    A few hours of fun? Have you even played the game? I wasn't even at level 10 of a single class/subclass in a few hours. It could easily take 100 hours to play through the content on just one. And multiple times that to max out every subclass. And the vast majority of players are playing on Quest store not steam. For example half of all headsets on Steam are Quest users now that plug in or do airlink. When only a small fraction of Quest users ever even use steam. And only a fraction of a fraction of the ones that use steam would for a title that runs off the headset perfectly without a PC.
    HazenXIII
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