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  • BrotherMaynardBrotherMaynard Member RarePosts: 647
    Asm0deus said:
    Some news from asus.




    This Spring ASUS will lower prices on it’s GeForce RTX™ 30-Series Graphic Cards

    Fremont, California (March 28, 2022) — As a result of the latest tariff lift on Chinese imports from the Office of the United States Trade Representative, Gamers and PC enthusiasts will see lower prices on ASUS GeForce RTX™ 30-series graphic cards starting on April 1st, 2022. ASUS is among the first to pass these savings on to its consumers. Lower prices will affect entry level GeForce RTX 3050 and RTX 3060, mid-range RTX 3070 and high performance RTX 3080 and RTX 3090 graphics cards. Consumers should expect prices to decline up to 25% on different models throughout the springtime.

    About ASUS
    ASUS is a global technology leader that provides the world’s most innovative and intuitive devices, components and solutions to deliver incredible experiences that enhance the lives of people everywhere. With its team of 5,000 in-house R&D experts, ASUS is world-renowned for continuously reimagining today’s technologies for tomorrow, garners more than 11 awards every day for quality, innovation and design, and is ranked among Fortune’s World’s Most Admired Companies.

    Here's a different link of the first one looks too shady to some of you.


    Yeah, no... The translation of the PR speak should be "we feel kinda silly charging you 2.5 grand for a 3080 and are running out of excuses now".

    You just have to love their PR spin: "ASUS is among the first to pass these savings on to its consumers". Failing to mention that in 2021, ASUS was the first to raise those prices - twice.

    First in early 2021 (which resulted in a ~30-50% increase of prices across the board) and then later in April, because since the demand was so high, why increase the prices once, when you can do it twice?

    So no, thank you. Especially considering my experience with ASUS, their crappy products (3/3 motherboards, 5/6 graphics cards had to be replaced - in one case including getting a new CPU and memory as the model had been discontinued) and abysmal customer service.

  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,618
    ...snip....
    Yeah, no... The translation of the PR speak should be "we feel kinda silly charging you 2.5 grand for a 3080 and are running out of excuses now".

    You just have to love their PR spin: "ASUS is among the first to pass these savings on to its consumers". Failing to mention that in 2021, ASUS was the first to raise those prices - twice.

    First in early 2021 (which resulted in a ~30-50% increase of prices across the board) and then later in April, because since the demand was so high, why increase the prices once, when you can do it twice?

    So no, thank you. Especially considering my experience with ASUS, their crappy products (3/3 motherboards, 5/6 graphics cards had to be replaced - in one case including getting a new CPU and memory as the model had been discontinued) and abysmal customer service.

    You haven't been following gpu prices the last couple years have you.  This isn't just about asus so you can no thank you asus all you want it still indicative of prices coming back down to a somewhat decent price range instead of them all being marked up 150% or more.....lol

    As for pc parts and brands you have to do your research before buying cause, and I hate to break it to ya, they all have shitty lines or or models to avoid be it gpu, mobo psu etc etc.


    BrotherMaynard

    Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.





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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    If their product is going to sell out as soon as it comes to market, then why not charge as much as they can?  If you charge less, then scalpers will just buy your product and resell it for more, and I'd rather see Asus (or Nvidia or AMD) get that money than scalpers.
  • BrotherMaynardBrotherMaynard Member RarePosts: 647
    Asm0deus said:
    ...snip....
    Yeah, no... The translation of the PR speak should be "we feel kinda silly charging you 2.5 grand for a 3080 and are running out of excuses now".

    You just have to love their PR spin: "ASUS is among the first to pass these savings on to its consumers". Failing to mention that in 2021, ASUS was the first to raise those prices - twice.

    First in early 2021 (which resulted in a ~30-50% increase of prices across the board) and then later in April, because since the demand was so high, why increase the prices once, when you can do it twice?

    So no, thank you. Especially considering my experience with ASUS, their crappy products (3/3 motherboards, 5/6 graphics cards had to be replaced - in one case including getting a new CPU and memory as the model had been discontinued) and abysmal customer service.

    You haven't been following gpu prices the last couple years have you.  This isn't just about asus so you can no thank you asus all you want it still indicative of prices coming back down to a somewhat decent price range instead of them all being marked up 150% or more.....lol

    As for pc parts and brands you have to do your research before buying cause, and I hate to break it to ya, they all have shitty lines or or models to avoid be it gpu, mobo psu etc etc.



    So you first copy-paste ASUS' PR statements, swallowing their spin hook, like and sinker and when I point our their hypocrisy, you go all "but this in not about ASUS, everyone does it"? What the hell are you on, if I may ask? Are you unable to follow a simple thought across barely 5 short forum posts?

    Let me repeat it to you then, since you seem to have difficulties with PR statements by ASUS:

    • Their current virtue signalling is meaningless, they are not the good guys here, they raised their prices one year ago (by way more than this 25% drop), so they can shove their PR spin where the sun does not shine.
    • What other manufacturers did is irrelevant here, your post was about ASUS and their actions. You can also keep your condescension, I am very well aware of the general situation with GPUs (and other parts); it's also what this entire discussion is about.
    • And finally, you yourself made a post about the prices going down in this very thread - and I gave further evidence of this happening, so ASUS trying to score some brownie points in a situation where ALL prices are going down deserves to be ridiculed as nothing more than that. If you are unable to see past their spin, that's on you.

    Likewise, I am not interested in your patronising posts about "doing my own research" and "all manufacturers having shitty products". Again, your post was about ASUS, so kindly take your whataboutisms elsewhere. I posted my experience with ASUS products over the past 15 years, the "stellar" record of 1 out of 9 ASUS parts that did not die and ASUS' crappy customer service, where they simply didn't give a shit about their defective products or didn't even bother replying. In this particular context I couldn't care less about other manufacturers (which, incidentally, in my experience with EVGA and MSI  parts behave very differently).

    VrikaAsm0deus
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,618
    edited April 2022
    Asm0deus said:
    ...snip....
    Yeah, no... The translation of the PR speak should be "we feel kinda silly charging you 2.5 grand for a 3080 and are running out of excuses now".

    You just have to love their PR spin: "ASUS is among the first to pass these savings on to its consumers". Failing to mention that in 2021, ASUS was the first to raise those prices - twice.

    First in early 2021 (which resulted in a ~30-50% increase of prices across the board) and then later in April, because since the demand was so high, why increase the prices once, when you can do it twice?

    So no, thank you. Especially considering my experience with ASUS, their crappy products (3/3 motherboards, 5/6 graphics cards had to be replaced - in one case including getting a new CPU and memory as the model had been discontinued) and abysmal customer service.

    You haven't been following gpu prices the last couple years have you.  This isn't just about asus so you can no thank you asus all you want it still indicative of prices coming back down to a somewhat decent price range instead of them all being marked up 150% or more.....lol

    As for pc parts and brands you have to do your research before buying cause, and I hate to break it to ya, they all have shitty lines or or models to avoid be it gpu, mobo psu etc etc.



    So you first copy-paste ASUS' PR statements, swallowing their spin hook, like and sinker and when I point our their hypocrisy, you go all "but this in not about ASUS, everyone does it"? What the hell are you on, if I may ask? Are you unable to follow a simple thought across barely 5 short forum posts?

    Let me repeat it to you then, since you seem to have difficulties with PR statements by ASUS:

    • Their current virtue signalling is meaningless, they are not the good guys here, they raised their prices one year ago (by way more than this 25% drop), so they can shove their PR spin where the sun does not shine.
    • What other manufacturers did is irrelevant here, your post was about ASUS and their actions. You can also keep your condescension, I am very well aware of the general situation with GPUs (and other parts); it's also what this entire discussion is about.
    • And finally, you yourself made a post about the prices going down in this very thread - and I gave further evidence of this happening, so ASUS trying to score some brownie points in a situation where ALL prices are going down deserves to be ridiculed as nothing more than that. If you are unable to see past their spin, that's on you.

    Likewise, I am not interested in your patronising posts about "doing my own research" and "all manufacturers having shitty products". Again, your post was about ASUS, so kindly take your whataboutisms elsewhere. I posted my experience with ASUS products over the past 15 years, the "stellar" record of 1 out of 9 ASUS parts that did not die and ASUS' crappy customer service, where they simply didn't give a shit about their defective products or didn't even bother replying. In this particular context I couldn't care less about other manufacturers (which, incidentally, in my experience with EVGA and MSI  parts behave very differently).


    I think you are too busy virtue signaling yourself here and not even trying to look past the obvious PR spin from asus and thus missing the entire point of my post and this thread has taken which is about gpu's in general and wtf happened with the bs inflated prices these last few years....

    You might want to look in the mirror as you speak of lack of coherent or logical thought processes......

    oh btw go to the msi reddit and you will find plenty of people having hissy fits and swearing off msi like you have asus for the very same reasons.........wtf indeed!

    :D

    Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.





  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    They all suck, but most are just taking advantage of a crappy-all-around situation.

    As Quiz said, if they didn't raise MRSP, miners and scalpers just snatch them up faster than they could be put on the shelves, or retailers will just mark them up themselves in countries where that's legal. And I'm sure logistical and supply chain challenges have hit everyone, as well as labor issues and tariffs and everything else, so what was an MSRP when most of this generation was announced back in 2020 is woefully different than the current state of the gloval economy at large today in 2022.

    The most honest company I can think of in this was EVGA, and I wouldn't go in so far as to call them entirely blameless. EVGA tried to keep prices near MSRP with a queue, and couldn't even manage something as simple as that -- only the very top SKU queues got fulfilled (you know, the highest profit margin ones) -- and they couldn't even keep up with that. Demand was so high that they changed the queue system mid-stream not once, but twice, giving previous owners preferential placement in queues and dropping old reservations without a lot of notice. And even then they weren't immune to MSRP creep - just look at the 3080Ti release prices.

    I don't fault the AIBs for raising MSRPs when they did. And I'm glad some are actually bringing prices back down now that they can. They could always leave the MSRP high, and just have sales and deals (like we did in the old days of 2019 and before) when they need to quickly liquidate products -- lowering the MSRP at least signals a permanence to the price cuts.
    Asm0deus
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