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Wargaming is Leaving All Business in Russia and Belarus | MMORPG.com

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited April 2022 in News & Features Discussion

imageWargaming is Leaving All Business in Russia and Belarus | MMORPG.com

In a major decision, Wargaming announced that the company is in the process of ending all business in Russia and Belarus.

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  • toljartoljar Member UncommonPosts: 240
    This is actually very cool/interesting. I was hesitant to continue playing games like World of Warships, but heck after this maybe I will put some more time in.

    Also, if you have not played World of Warships, it is actually a pretty fun/chill game. The AI modes are great and the PvP modes require thinking to some degree. Worth the free to play download.
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  • DigDuggyDigDuggy Member RarePosts: 694
    good for them. I don't care if it's just a financial decision, social stance, protest, or whatever combination. The result is the same. Less for Russia.
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  • ZenJellyZenJelly Member RarePosts: 407

    toljar said:

    This is actually very cool/interesting. I was hesitant to continue playing games like World of Warships, but heck after this maybe I will put some more time in.



    Also, if you have not played World of Warships, it is actually a pretty fun/chill game. The AI modes are great and the PvP modes require thinking to some degree. Worth the free to play download.



    There isn't anything at all in this statement that is accurate.
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  • DrSatanDrSatan Member UncommonPosts: 76
    edited April 2022
    Uh huh.

    Gonna turn off the biasedly over rewarding RU servers for WoT and WoW off as well? Or just move to a tax haven?

    How many employees even clock in physically to that studio vs remote work?

    Gonna get rid of the ridiculous amount of Dasha themed officers??

    Why now and not after Georgia or Crimea?

    No. There's more at play masked as yet more virtue signalling.

    Seen the player count in WoW lately?

    Been to their forums? Go see how we reacted to submarines. Go see how 'superships' were received...

    Any one who has followed wargaming over the last decade should see right through this.

    Another failing, bloated, confused, aimlessly drifting bunch of games with dwindling older accounts desperate to disguise their own bad choices with the pain of others completely unrelated in scope or cause. 'Lost Ark' will be the next one to try and grab a moral tampon while it sinks into the void of failure.
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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,203

    DrSatan said:

    Uh huh.



    Gonna turn off the biasedly over rewarding RU servers for WoT and WoW off as well? Or just move to a tax haven?



    How many employees even clock in physically to that studio vs remote work?



    Gonna get rid of the ridiculous amount of Dasha themed officers??



    Why now and not after Georgia or Crimea?



    No. There's more at play masked as yet more virtue signalling.



    Seen the player count in WoW lately?



    Been to their forums? Go see how we reacted to submarines. Go see how 'superships' were received...



    Any one who has followed wargaming over the last decade should see right through this.



    Another failing, bloated, confused, aimlessly drifting bunch of games with dwindling older accounts desperate to disguise their own bad choices with the pain of others completely unrelated in scope or cause. 'Lost Ark' will be the next one to try and grab a moral tampon while it sinks into the void of failure.



    Bla bla bla, why do you bla bla bla. Russia is not evil bla bla bla. Why not when Crimea was taken when there was zero deaths. I want to say moral things, but bla bla bla .. I ..bla bla bla.

    That's your comment right there ...
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,427
    edited April 2022
    I think this is going too far, it is like a game of virtual signaling one-upmanship, Belarus let Russian troops and supplies through to Ukraine but to my knowledge none of its own troops are taking part in this, despite repeated media articles they are going to take part it does not seem they have.

    India has declared a neutral stance in regards to what has happened, should every company now look to removing all facilities from India? Hungary has taken refuges and declared against Russia but will not allow arms to pass through its boarders to help Ukraine, should every company now remove their facilities from Hungary?

    Russia is the culprit here, and this seemingly ever widening circle of blame and reaction is getting out of hand.
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  • vegetableoilvegetableoil Member RarePosts: 768
    they pretty much fired every single one of the people who made the game, because the company is based on belarus, the studios outsides only do translations. ssoo... no more updates? shrug.
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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    DrSatan said:
    Why now and not after Georgia or Crimea?
    Belarus didn't invade Georgia or Crimea, but they have been helping Russia in the invasion of Ukraine.

    Even so, there is a lot of room to argue about just how culpable this or that group is, at least apart from Putin.  A lot of the people or groups who have been "helping" Russia in the invasion are really only doing so under duress and not because they want to.  As much as one might wish to see others sacrifice their lives in a probably futile protest of Putin's invasion, that's an awful lot to ask of people, and I'm hesitant to harshly criticize people who try merely to survive in an impossible situation.
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    You all do realize this has to do with not being able to process fiscal transactions from Russia, now that the Ruble has been removed from the World Banks, right.
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Deathkon1 said:
    Ungood said:
    You all do realize this has to do with not being able to process fiscal transactions from Russia, now that the Ruble has been removed from the World Banks, right.
    Would make sense also welcome back from the forced vacation glad to see someone with an actual brain back on this forum lol
    Thanks, Still plan to be an asshole, and refuse to learn anything from it.. LOL.
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  • OldKingLogOldKingLog Member RarePosts: 601
    Ungood said:
    You all do realize this has to do with not being able to process fiscal transactions from Russia, now that the Ruble has been removed from the World Banks, right.

    Very had to do business in a country that has become persona non grata and is in financial free fall because of it.
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    edited April 2022


    they pretty much fired every single one of the people who made the game, because the company is based on belarus, the studios outsides only do translations. ssoo... no more updates? shrug.
    They've got development also elsewhere.

    Unfortunately for them, I think those locations included Russia and Ukraine. They're really unlucky with their locations.
     
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    Vrika said:


    they pretty much fired every single one of the people who made the game, because the company is based on belarus, the studios outsides only do translations. ssoo... no more updates? shrug.
    They've got development also elsewhere.

    Unfortunately for them, I think those locations included Russia and Ukraine. They're really unlucky with their locations.
    Sometimes companies gain a competitive advantage by hiring employees where labor is cheaper.  That only really works with products that are easy to transport long distances.  But computer games are very much a global market, and the cost and time to transport them around the world is basically trivial for most purposes.

    But that cheaper labor is always cheaper for a reason.  Sometimes the reasons are things that the company doesn't care about and they save money by having cheaper employees.  Sometimes the reasons why the labor is cheaper come back to bite the company.

    Political risk is one of the reasons why labor is cheaper in some places than others.  Political risk can take many forms, from having to pay bribes to keep the government off your back to a risk that the government will confiscate your business if you annoy them, or even if it just looks valuable.  And it can also include the risk that you'll find your business caught in the middle of a war.

    Sometimes those risks pay off and sometimes they don't.  Today, the Ukraine war is terrible for Wargaming's bottom line.  But it's far from guaranteed that they'll come out worse overall than if they had to pay higher wages for years to set up shop in a place where programmers are far more expensive to hire.  That's not a moral judgment, but merely a statement of economic reality.
  • eoloeeoloe Member RarePosts: 864

    Wargfoot said:

     I don't see war games doing well in a war zone.
    You have the full VR experience right outside your door.



    But only one life. The experience might be possibly too short.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,058
    eoloe said:

    Wargfoot said:

     I don't see war games doing well in a war zone.
    You have the full VR experience right outside your door.



    But only one life. The experience might be possibly too short.
    The permadeath "feature" really sux.


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  • TokkenTokken Member EpicPosts: 3,649
    Deathkon1 said:
    Here we go again 

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  • ashiru_1978ashiru_1978 Member RarePosts: 818

    toljar said:

    This is actually very cool/interesting. I was hesitant to continue playing games like World of Warships, but heck after this maybe I will put some more time in.



    Also, if you have not played World of Warships, it is actually a pretty fun/chill game. The AI modes are great and the PvP modes require thinking to some degree. Worth the free to play download.



    That was stopping you from playing? Virtue signalling much?
  • ChampieChampie Member UncommonPosts: 191
    edited April 2022
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  • PurplePepePurplePepe Member UncommonPosts: 122
    More useless virtue signaling that will only serve to hurt employees.
    ChampieScot
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Deathkon1 said:
    Kyleran said:
    eoloe said:

    Wargfoot said:

     I don't see war games doing well in a war zone.
    You have the full VR experience right outside your door.



    But only one life. The experience might be possibly too short.
    The permadeath "feature" really sux.


    At least the graphics are good
    Yah, but the character customization sucks, and the whole thing is Pay to Win.
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