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CD Projekt Red Confirms Cyberpunk 2077 Expansion in 2023, New Witcher Game Enters Pre-Production
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The game was always very playable for me on PC, goofy glitches, bugs and all. The game was never nearly as godly as the pre-release hype would have you believe and certainly not as bad as the post release cherry picked video compilations would suggest.
The way I saw this phenomenon was that we had a game so extremely over-hyped, to the point that the non gaming media was caught up in it and it became its own world-wide event followed and watched by millions of gamers and non-gamers alike.
This extreme interest was not lost on streamers, bloggers and other minor leagues fame and glory seekers. So they got in on the acton biasing their takes in the direction of whichever way they saw the wind blowing. That was an over the top party atmosphere pre release and the mindless and equally exaggerated hate train after it released and it was found out that not all was well in CP77 land.
The important thing was to be one with the flow and bias your take in whichever way you could best make a name for yourself and get a following. The game certainly wasn't the disaster they tried to make it out to be and I was by no means the only one who completed it several times with very few technical issues and a lot of enjoyment playing it.
A big story with the CP77 saga, maybe the biggest, was the reactions both pre and post release of the minor media and social media parasites latching themselves on to the worldwide event and hanging on for dear life for fame and glory.
Yeah CDPR made some horrible corporate decisions along the way, especially the state of the game on the previous gen consoles they hyped as being ready for prime time when it obviously wasn't and they justly lost street cred as a result.
But that to me was a secondary story to the main hype/hate train story that played out and continues to play itself out.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
It was clear the new perspective and focus on a new IP with a different nature of combat (lots of guns this time around) was something CDPR didn't have a ton of experience with. You can see glimpses of the quality you get in the Witcher series here and there, but it was nowhere near the polished, intuitive, complete experience the Witcher 3 was.
It was still a fun narrative-driven FPS, though. To me, at this point, it's as fun as I remembered the first Witcher game to be.
So if we get CP77 3 sometime and it's as good as Witcher 3 was, I'll be stoked.
It's a very good game for those of us who like heavily story driven RPG/Adventure games. It's a game of a similar nature to the Deus Ex and Mass Effect games with their typical mix of pretty good fighting and character development but subject to their main hook which is always their stories.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
The main performance problems with CP2077 were on previous gen consoles ( PS4 and XBox One ).
The game ran fine from day one on my XBox One X (scorpio) and later even better on my XBox Series X.
That aside, the real issues were the meriad of bugs, lackluster story and missing features/content they themselves hyped the community with over the years!
I personally think CDPR has been an overhyped/overrated studio anyway, with only one really good game on their portfolio, which is The Witcher 3.
After CP2077 that only confirmed it more in my opinion, in that they are just a one trick pony.
Time will tell if they manage to redeem themselves with the next Witcher game.
I wouldn't call that growth as a studio a "one trick pony." That term is usually reserved for outstanding things that come out of nowhere and are never matched again - fairly common in the music industry.
The Witcher 3's quality and success created expectations about their next game without the studio needing to do much extra itself for the uber hype to happen. It was mostly organic hype just like how gamers and the media heard "drive cars?" and immediately started comparing the game to GTA without the studio doing anything to encourage that comparison - they discouraged it in fact.
CP77 is the second best game they have done so far and It is far, far superior to the Witcher 1 or 2. They would have needed to regress to Witcher 1 and 2 Eurojank for the "one trick pony" thing to have any legs.
And I beg to differ about the quantity of bugs. If you played the game normally without going out of your way to try to make stuff break there really weren't many bugs important enough to stop progress or break quest arcs.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
I don't know how it was with the PC client, but I had quite a few major/breaking issues in the main story arc on my (attempt at) playthrough on XBOX with CP2077 and never got far into the 2nd half of the game, before I finally gave up and uninstalled it. Not just of the bugs, but because the story falling flat as well.
And what quest arcs? there is just one main story quest arc, hence why its just a play once and forget game. The side missions are just boring, repetitive filler. This has been pointed out many times as main critique against game. It has practically no replayability!
Nowhere near the scale and scope of Witcher 3, that had many major side quest arcs that were amazing, if not better than the main story arc. Hence, why I have done several play throughs without ever getting bored. Discovering new things I missed in earlier play throughs.
CP2077 has nothing of that! Act 1 was pretty good and exciting story wise. After that it started to fell flat quickly. Keanu Reeves could not save the mediocre writing of his character. Sorry. Jackie was a way better and more interesting character and he got killed off at the end of Act 1. Here too, I am not the only one who felt that way. /shrug
They certainly weren't marked with in your face, special color coded exclamation marks saying "important quests here!" They were designed to be stumbled into in the course of exploring or following innocuous seeming fixer gigs, but there are a shit ton of those side quest arcs everywhere.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Judy, Panam, River, Johnny Silverhand, Kerry... all of those had a shit ton of additional multi part quests by just responding to phone calls or conversation leads with them. Many of those side quests could only be ignored by making a conscious effort to ignore them and a lot of them influenced greatly your main quest end-game choices and options.
I've completed the game 3 times and my GOG achievements page tells me I have 51% of the achievements. That's hardly completionist level game play territory
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
When I returned to CP77 earlier this year, it truly felt like that was how it should have been released. I'm glad they stuck with it, because it's a really good FPS.
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So yeah It's getting kind of repetitious for me now lol.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
거북이는 목을 내밀 때 안 움직입니다
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
거북이는 목을 내밀 때 안 움직입니다
거북이는 목을 내밀 때 안 움직입니다